Xonas Pitfall

I personally started at 18. I’m not sure I would recommend it, but I’m glad I did for myself. The trick is that, after a few trips, I eventually realized the “burning through karma” concept. You just feel during the trip that there are so many things your ego is still clinging to and worrying about, mostly survival or ego-related, that prevent you from having a more open and flowing mind. I would think about things beyond myself, but then my mind kept asking, “But how do you know? You haven’t experienced this or that. Absolutely none of it. Who do you think you are?” I had a lot of self-doubt. I feel like if you are too young, you just don’t have enough life confidence to even ground yourself properly, especially if you can’t yet feed and shelter yourself independently. So for me, if anything, it helped because I kept feeling blocked, and it motivated me to get my survival in order. But it’s tricky to know whether you would have the same response, because it’s very subjective. I feel like there’s no clear answer. It’s too case-dependent.

Ideally, when you are a youngster, you try it a couple of times to get a glimpse of what is possible. This can hopefully give you more hope, direction, and ambition for your life. You realize you need to get your survival sorted out first, so you can later fully enjoy the richness of consciousness properly. But obviously, no one can guarantee what will happen once you “get a glimpse” of it . . . Oopsies, now we are all addicts!

What would you think of your daughter? What do you think of little girls (children)? You can try starting from there. Just as you are a boy in a man's body. She is a girl in a woman's body. Just as you are a child in a man's body. She is a child in a woman's body. P.S. Don't anyone dare turn this into anything pedo . . .

Shortest answer: Ego!

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Pseudovirtue, Sanctegoism – sanctity + egoism → ego pretending to be holy, Virtuception – virtue + deception → believing your own moral lie, Halo-corruption When the ego disguises itself as moral or divine truth, leading someone to justify harmful or corrupt actions while genuinely believing they are good. The key here is that you genuinely believe you are doing it for a higher value; your ego has successfully deceived you. I’m controlling you because I care about you and know what’s best. We’re going to war to defend the purity of our people / sacred values. ”I’m just being honest” (while being unnecessarily cruel) “We must silence them to protect truth and goodness.” “I’m condemning / excluding these people because God demands it. Not me.”

This. These tools are getting so deeply integrated into major companies that at this point, it almost feels like asking whether to use them isn’t even relevant anymore. It's kind of like saying: "I’ve been using social media to promote my business, and it’s working way better than anything I used to do. I don’t need to go door-to-door or chase newspaper headlines anymore; I can just make content and get results." I actually think the smarter move is the opposite of what you’re worried about. If you fully lean into AI and get really good at web dev + using it properly, you’ll be ahead of most people. If you avoid it or don’t learn it deeply, that’s when you fall behind. The future is going to massively favor developers who know how to guide AI, prompt it well, and quickly fix or refine what it gives back.

The title says it all! Inspired by some of the recent blog posts shared, I thought it would be valuable to open up a space for reflection and discussion on the darker sides of human behavior - selfishness, corruption, underdevelopment, and the systems that perpetuate them. Of course, we'll aim to keep everything within the forum's guidelines - and moderators, feel free to step in or close the thread if it veers off course. On a balanced note, I’ll also be creating a companion thread focused on humanity’s goodness, love, selflessness, and progress - both aspects are real and worth exploring.

Record yourself and have someone close and trustworthy record you as well, with and without meds; that'd be the best reference for judgment.

That's too cool! 🥝

And they say Shakespeare is dead... ⸙

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Then. . . perhaps don’t say it in such an opinionated and assured way, especially if it sounds like a broad social commentary? But it’s all clear now, so no worries!

All good & clear! I was just pointing out the bias and incorrect things said in some of the statements. . . 😅

Aww, what a cutie. Kororā

Jokes are fine, I just pointed out the bias 😅 Hence why I gave this example (replace joke as the metaphor) You also brought up porn vs. OF comparison comments, no? Hence why I quoted them and responded/talked about both.

At least OF does not exploit its creators. Porn does. Both are extremely bad in their edge cases. In most cases, they’re just porn. Most creators don’t overcharge, and most consumers get what they pay for. In the extreme cases, either men are heavily exploited, or women are heavily exploited. There’s nothing better or worse here, imo. Or at the very least, so disproportionately exaggerated as to call one more acceptable than the other, or to claim that one is worse than heroin, while other not. OF and traditional porn both carry a stigma. It’s being framed as if all creators are scamming men and all attractive women are being influenced by OF propaganda, which simply isn’t true in the slightest, and is backed up by stats, too. For every new "persuaded" OF creator, there are probably many women, historically and currently, being trafficked or pressured into porn under far worse conditions. And for every scammed guy, there’s probably some borderline legal-aged girl being pushed into a highly perverted, degrading scene that goes against her boundaries. The position you have now is more reasonable, but it definitely feels somewhat like backtracking. Still, more okay

Do you see the double standard and bias in how you critique one and the other? Do you acknowledge that? Why such discrepancy? That was my point. Such critiquing sensationalist comments for OF, but with porn, when called out on the bias, its "ha ha, just jokes guys, nothing too serious here. Teehee" 😅😆 It’s similar to when evangelical Christians go hard on theories to try to disprove scientists, hyper commentary, dramatic, but then when those same standards are applied to inconsistencies in the Bible, it suddenly becomes, “Well, the Bible is metaphorical, it doesn’t exactly mean what it says!”

@Leo Gura You are extremely biased on these issues. You’ve seen the darker side of porn: sex trafficking, exploitative contracts that strip performers of ownership over their content, predatory revenue splits, and agencies pushing women past their limits. This especially impacts women with fewer options, who are often sold a dream of success, only to end up barely making money, while their content is permanently owned and distributed by someone else. Not to mention how extreme and degrading porn content can become when agencies have the authority to pressure performers into doing more and more. Your argument that “because it’s safer and easier, it’s therefore worse” doesn’t make sense. That would be like saying you'd rather people do heroin than weed because it’s more immediately destructive and scary, which is obviously absurd. There’s a clear double standard. When large companies, often run by men, profit off women, set the terms, and push content in more extreme directions, it is normalized as “good ol' porn.” But when women take back some control, set their own limits, and profit directly from their work, suddenly it’s "worse than heroin", "This is a SICKNESSSSSS of the HIIIIIGHEST ORDAAAA." What are we even arguing at that point? Exploitation of women with less control is acceptable, "No one is getting scammed with good ol porn." "It's worse than porn." But autonomy with more control over men (buyers) is somehow the real problem? "This is worse than heroin." "This is a SICKNESSSSSS of the HIIIIIGHEST ORDAAAA." You can criticize both systems if you want; that’s fair. But why is a system where more men might potentially be exploited considered worse than heroin and described as something of the highest level of degeneracy, while a system that has been historically exploitative and predatory toward women for ages is dismissed as “good old porn,” and seen as more acceptable? Very biased and double standards.

Do you want your daughter getting addicted to heroin, then selling her own body, losing her youth, health, terrorize her family, and finances in desperate attempts to get the same high again? You want your son encouraging other girls to show their pussies to the world for a small chance of riches? These are all horrible, but I just don’t see the argument for why OnlyFans is worse than all the others mentioned above. It’s a complete misconception that all attractive girls will want to do OnlyFans, just as it would be wrong to say all guys will be attracted to OnlyFans agencies, NFTs, or crypto schemes. These all appeal to certain kinds of people, and only certain types of people get rich doing them. They’re all flawed and deeply problematic, but I don’t understand the biased comparison being made with them. Don’t forget, you originally said this as well: Which would imply: Doing heroin is less bad than weed in my eyes because it has a huge stigma and barrier to entry, which is good. Does that make sense? To clarify, I am not saying this stuff is good or should be encouraged, but I’m trying to point out the bias that happens when we focus only on OnlyFans. I hope I made that clear.

@Leo Gura Very biased statement 😅 Neither is ideal, definitely, but I don’t see a good argument for how it’s “worse.” If you want to say quick money cash schemes are bad, then you have to bite the bullet and say that crypto, NFT, shitcoins, porn recruitment agencies management, gambling, dropshipping, etc., are also equally worse than heroin. We’re pretending here that any attractive girl who does OnlyFans makes this amount of cash. If you make that amount of money, you either have some crazy marketing team behind you, or you’re quiet intuitive about what goes viral, or you got lucky. But this isn’t any different from a typical influencer. Plenty of typical influencers also promote shady, scammy, or sketchy things to children and adults as well. I agree this is very bad, but I don’t understand the particular isolation of OnlyFans. These stats are pretty similar for most online marketing, the digital space, and influencers. The top % makes a lot, the bottom almost to nothing. Very typical. Again, I agree that both are bad, but these comparisons really aren’t fair.

@Leo Gura In its purest form, it is! In more generic layman’s terms: then no, correct.

Understanding in its purest form is being, unity. You want to understand something so badly that you fully become and immerse yourself in it. Hence, Love = Pure Understanding.

Let's try tackling this one by one... #1 The fact that now your responses are more studious and grounded is a bad sign. That was one of my original points when I gave examples above. You can make extremely broad, sensationalist, women-blaming statements & posts, shaming women for being selfish, commenting on morality, higher values, corruptions, etc., and then when people call you out on it, suddenly it’s: “Well... I’m no saint,” “it is what it is,” “love is vicious, and I’ve just integrated that viciousness,” “All is fair in love and war! Don’t take what I say as some broad commentary on the world.” Do you see how strongly you come in, claiming, blaming, and bashing women and feminism, making sweeping statements about people, but then, when someone challenges you, you back off? It becomes: “Well, hey now, why are you so focused on me? It’s not like I’m talking about the entire state of the world. Plus, I’m no saint.” But you still feel comfortable commenting on other people’s lack of “saintliness”? #2 The comment about men and women being different, sure, that’s not what I was criticizing. My point is that the system you’re describing doesn’t actually work. In your framework, men are free to sleep with as many women as they want before committing, while women are damaged, mentally and physically, if they do the same. But look at how that plays out in reality: Men say they want “high-quality” women, feminine, emotionally vulnerable, sweet, young, beautiful, naive. Then those same men go out, charm, seduce, and manipulate those exact women. But because they get bored or want variety, they cheat, leave, detach, and end up traumatizing them. And what happens next? Those women become more guarded. They warn other women. They demand more independence, more protection, and distance from men. At the same time, men praise the idea of a “traditional” family, loyalty, love, stable parents, Christian values, but show very little interest in actually upholding those values themselves. How are men supposed to gain all this “experience” if women are expected to remain virgins? Who are they sleeping with? Sex workers or more “easy” women? But then those women are labeled as “whores” and looked down on. So the very behavior that enables men is the same behavior they condemn. Men say they want more sex, but then complain that women are too promiscuous. Then they say they want less promiscuity, but get frustrated when women ask for commitment, stability, or a ring. They say they want femininity, love, care, sweetness, vulnerability, but don’t step up to reciprocate that with commitment or emotional responsibility. Do you see how hypocritical and dysfunctional this whole system is? If the stance is simply “I want sex, and yes, I’ll treat some women badly because I can,” then at least that’s honest. But then why dress it up as some larger commentary on women, feminism, or morality? I understand that it’s frustrating and difficult to control sexual desire. I’m not pretending it’s easy or that everyone should live up to some perfect, utopian standard. But at the very least, acknowledge the bias, hypocrisy, and selfishness involved. That’s the first step, and a big reason why these patterns keep repeating. I have far less of an issue with guys who are honest and say, “I just want sex, and I’ll be manipulative or act like trash to get it because I feel starved of it. I know it hurts women. I know people like me contribute to the problem, but this is where I’m at.” At least that’s self-aware. What bothers me is when men behave that same way, but then turn around and start making broad claims about women, feminism, morality, higher values, so strongly and assuredly, about how the world and then women should be, but they themselves have 0 interest in upholding these values and honoring the good people. That’s the issue. If what you really care about is sex, and you’re willing to act in certain ways to get it, then just own that. That’s where your position actually ends. Going beyond that in commentary is just ridiculous.