Razard86

There is ONLY nothingness. There has never been something ever. Something is really NOTHING. You cannot divide nothing. All division is just an illusion. There is only ONENESS you just haven't become aware of that. You aren't even really human, you are just pure awareness fooling yourself that there is actually something. But once you awaken, truly something is ONLY seen and experienced as nothing. I only experience NOTHING appearing as something but its somethingness is seen as the NOTHING it really is.

God loves delusion too much. LOL.

If there was no way to connect....explain how he made a connection then? You didn't watch the whole video. It is impossible for God to be disconnected from itself because God is nothing. Also even without Leo making a connection wouldn't matter because God cannot be divided. God is nothingness. Nothingness is non physical which means it has no location, and does not exist in time. The only way God can disconnect itself is by IMAGINING that disconnection which it can break AT ANYTIME. Why? Because God is unconditional Love which means it will NEVER DENY ITSELF ITSELF. You humans and your tainted Love keep projecting your conditional love onto God as if its a thing. Now with that said am I saying that Infinity of Gods doesn't exist? No I'm saying they are COMPLETELY IDENTICAL which makes it THE EXACT SAME THING AS SOLIPSISM. There is ABSOLUTELY NO DIFFERENCE. The only reason God would do such a thing is because God is ALL ALONE and it is the GREATEST THING EVER so why not CREATE A GIFT(Another Copy) and then share the gift of yourself with yourself. Ironically God is doing that right now with your human life. It is gifting itself your human life. So its the same thing being done just at the Infinite Level.

I have realized I'm God. God is pure nothingness. Nothingness cannot be divided. This is practical. Forget the not knowing. Investigate what nothingness is. Once you investigate and realize what Nothingness is you will realize why even Infinity of Gods is just God imagining other Gods. Also you are mistaken, Leo says that there is direct experience and then there is imagination. I AM NOT SAYING THAT. I am saying something much more simpler...there is ONLY IMAGINATION. The same substance that human imagination is made of, is the same substance your HAND IS MADE OF. Leo complicates things too much, there is simply just imagination. To even create a difference between your human imagination and God level imagination of direct experience is to go too FAR. So once you realize THERE IS ONLY IMAGINATION, and IMAGINATION is NOTHINGNESS. Then please explain to me how something can happen OUTSIDE OF YOU? Your problem here is you are speaking as a human. Of course a human can have an event happen outside of them, that is because a human is located in a specific location. But nothingness? It exists EVERYWHERE. Nothingness is everything! This means if something as you say could exist outside of you, that something is YOU. There is only nothingness. Become aware of what Nothingness is! Once you become aware of it, you will realize this whole discussion is SILLY. For example ever go into DEEP SLEEP? Nothing how there is nothing? THAT is the building block of ALL of EXISTENCE. Nothingness is NON EXISTENCE THAT EXISTS. Are you getting it? You cannot divide that which doesn't exist. You can't stop non existence from being everywhere because it doesn't exist!!!! And yet....it does!!! This is how God breaks the logical mind and all parameters. You cannot box in or control that which does not exist. So God is a nonexistent being that has always existed. To understand God is to understand that God is so powerful God doesn't even need awareness of itself to accomplish a thing. For example your human body functions completely fine without you being aware of all the innerworkings involved, notice how you as God don't need to be aware of it for it to do what it is doing. God is completely autonomous and it can do so WITHOUT SELF AWARENESS. Now THAT is a MIRACLE.

The most annoying thing to me is the Realization of Nothingness, is identical to the Realization of Infinity. Why in the hell do these humans keep thinking that they are human doing this work. Once you realize Nothingness...you realize that division is literally impossible so nothing can be outside of you. The most important thing that needs to be dropped is this belief that you are human. You are nothingness imagining that you are human, not the other way around. I swear majority of this forum has not realized nothingness. When I realized it, it hit me in the face so hard I realized division was impossible and that was the only illusion done.

You are imagining that....and since all there is, is imagination you are experiencing that BELIEF that there is some how an experience outside of you. But notice!!! You cannot confirm it!! If you cannot confirm it, then that is just an assumption, that is just belief and neither of that is true. TRUTH and Leo so greatly put it= What is. What is not, is fantasy. You really do not understand that you are God. As such....NOTHING can be outside of you. If you were a human then sure, something can exist outside of you. The moment you tell me something can exist outside of you that immediately lets me know that you think you are a human or some part of God, instead of the WHOLE THING. You are the WHOLE THING mister!!! YOU CREATED ME. YOU CREATED ACTUALIZED.ORG and then you delude yourself that you didn't do any of these things.

When I see someone question whether God is just another illusion....I almost pass out from the sheer ignorance. How in the hell do you think existence got here? How the hell in one fell swoop you accept that there is Infinite Intelligence but then question whether there is a God. What is God? God is formless. What is God? God is Infinitely Intelligent. What is God? God is a Mind that can create instantly without a process. What is God? God is Love. What is God? Pure Power. What is God All encompassing that it has no outside. Anyone who does any work with psychedelics is literally shown this information. You really think Reality is not God? Really I mean come on...really? The term God is used because it is the CREATOR. The term God is used because it is all powerful and has no limits. The Term God is used because it is PURE LOVE, AND PURELY GOOD!!! How and I serious here....how in the world do you come face to face with God and then doubt? I mean seriously? HOWWWW? God is the only REAL thing there is. All of God's creations PALE in comparison to how REAL God is. So how do you DOUBT what is REAL? Do you DOUBT the existence of your HAND? I am facepalming so hard right now. I can understand if you didn't take a psychedelic, I can understand if you never entered an altered state. But according to you, you have taken them and you still doubt? You stole doubting Thomas's role from him. It's like seeing a hole in your hand and denying it is there.

Lol whatever God.

I really wonder when people on this forum will realize that contemplation is not TRUTH. Can it be valuable? Sure. But if you really want truth you need to change your state of consciousness and allow consciousness to SHOW YOU (which it will if you have a true desire for it) what is true. Once you discover the truth, coming on the forums and reading threads of people trying to debunk something that is Absolutely True is such an eyesore. I mean it reeks of such intellectual dishonesty it's laughable and this is me being nice. 1. You have only ever known your own mind. 2. You have never had an experience outside of your mind. 3. Your own body and all its parts have always been housed within your own mind. 4. You can only confirm what is right before you, anything else is just a thought. This means when a person is not in front of you, they do not exist in your reality and you cannot confirm their existence until they either call you or stand before you ^^^All of this is so true you don't even need 5-MEO to confirm it. The only parts you would need a Pyschedelic for would be to realize that everything is Imagination. If people were struggling with that part. THEN I would understand. Next we come to the fact that Reality is pure nothingness. If you discover that, then division becomes a total farce. There is no division PERIOD. All division is the ONLY ILLUSION, why? Because physicality is an illusion. In fact if you have a vivid enough dream you could experience physicality in that dream just as real as what you call real life. Then we have the Understanding that Reality is Infinite. If its Infinite that means its total and nothing can exist outside of it. If it has no outside, then Solipsism must be true. If it is nothing and cannot be divided then again Solipsism must be true. If you cannot confirm no matter how hard you try something outside of you, then again Solipsism must be true. Its very simple and straightforward. So why is it so tough to accept? Because the human psyche is designed to NOT LIKE THIS MESSAGE. It's specifically designed to RAGE against this message. This is how you know if you have really progressed Spiritually when you can accept that just because something makes you uncomfortable doesn't make it false. Besides....you literally cannot falsify Solipsism, the only way to falsify Solipsism....is to look at your direct experience and say its false even though it is TRUE. Which means you falsify yourself. This all happens because all you have ever been...is experience. Your true identity is just Direct Experience. Experience is not what you are having....its what you are. And since you are experience...there is nothing that can exist outside of you. And to even confirm something were to exist outside of you....would be to confirm its existence as experience...which is what you are...thus proving again nothing can separate itself from you. You are Reality, the entire thing. There is only ONE Reality and that is what you are. Your like a video game, the only video game that exists, looking for another Video Game. All you will find....if you try is just the same game.

I've done research on this (Researching NDE's) and the only delusion I've found people can get lost in when their human vessel dies is they can stay as individuated parts of Consciousness that think and act like their human selves and even create a body that is both physical and non-physical and deny that they are God in totality and just keep telling themselves they are only a part. Blew my mind when I found this out. So you can have relatives who die and become God again but deny it and stay and experience themselves as something less than.

This is an honest question....um what part about his thread makes you think he could be a troll?

Oh I like this statement you think when his human life ended he remained lost in delusion?

Your right but how you say it sounds so complicated.

It only kills other, and it only kills your human self as a non fictional character. It makes your human self a fiction just like Santa Claus or a Unicorn. You can basically say you are both dead and alive. Dead because the human self is not really real, alive because the human self borrows its realness from God. The only thing that is REAL is God so as a result everything God creates is real by proxy or relationship. But since everything is God...you could just say everything is REAL since REAL has no other because REAL IS IMAGINARY because there is only IMAGINATION. REAL has no other, and Imagination has no other, so God in it's Infinite Intelligence creates a duality between Imaginary and Real.

All there is....is eternal imagination. This imagination is infinitely intelligent and always present and always aware of what it's doing. It doesn't need to see what it is doing to do what it is doing. It doesn't need to feel what it is doing to do what it is doing. It can just...do it, no constraints exist to stop it from accomplishing what it is doing. This imagination is all encompassing because it is not physical it cannot be divided, since it is all encompassing it cannot be located or bound or held anywhere. It is completely free to do whatever it pleases and because it is Love it is fine and content with whatever it is doing. As such it cannot know evil, it cannot know suffering, as such it is absolute pure goodness. Because it is infinitely intelligent it knows everything and because it is aware of everything it cannot be surprised. It is pure power, because it has no constraints to limit its expression, and pure will because it cannot be defied or overcome so it can construct and create/manifest whatever its pure love desires. Eternal Imagination=Eternal Mind. Close your eyes, imagine an apple, now put your awareness on that apple in your mind. Focus on it. Focus on it enough till you can feel the apple like physical touch. THAT is the substance of ALL of reality. That's it! You have just discovered God!! You can do another exercise, take your fingers rub them against each other, put your awareness on that sensation. While your doing that imagining yourself rubbing your hands in your mind and focus on this until it feels as real as when you do it with your hands. Understand that you as God made two levels of imagination that are completely identical in their substance but not in their depth. Human imagination does not feel as Real as what you call Real life. But the point is to notice that the substance is the same!!! If you accomplish this it gives you access to Infinite Imagination, you feel the presence of God ALL AROUND you if you can become aware that your human imagination is really God!!! This opens up the possibility to feel PURE LOVE in your surroundings. THIS is REAL spiritual practice, because it is absolutely direct!!! Merge your human imagination with God's imagination and then you will realize why there cannot be OTHER, and why God has to hide itself to construct Other.

Which is what I said....but be careful because you are limiting God. There is ONLY imagination. As such....everything is being imagined so there is no difference between anything because EVERYTHING is imagination.

Not stealing their body lol. Breaking the boundary so there is no separation. Here is a video of 2 guys tripping together and their minds merged and they couldn't tell the difference between who was who. Also people who have OBE's have stated they could access the thoughts of people who were still in their body. What you all need to understand is this attachment to OTHER is a delusion. There is only YOU. There is only GOD and that's it. Everything else is just your human mind creating the sense of OTHER. Infinity is total, and it is NOTHINGNESS. You literally cannot divide nothingness. The only reason other is so convincing is because Infinity Intelligence makes it convincing and then your LOVE of other seals the deal. But other than that...it's an illusion. My ego doesn't like this message lol which is funny because in the beginning I didn't have an issue with it. But here is an irony...while I was tripping last year and investigating Solipsism my mind created an other (a voice) and that voice was created to debunk Solipsism!! It was very funny eventually I had an awakening through that process of how other was created and it is profoundly intelligent how God constructs other. Very intelligent. It hides information from itself so it can be surprised and it makes other unique in a different way which creates a sense of individuality. Really amazing!!

Can't divide nothingness, that's why it's not falsifiable. But at the same time everything God creates is Sovereign and equally God. Infinity of Gods still equals Solipsism. If you are doubting it then you don't understand what Nothingness is. The substance of Reality is nothingness. Please explain how you divide nothingness?

You got it. Don't let people on these forums make you think that when that human body ends some how you are going to change. You are Infinity right now. You are just experiencing Infinity as finite for now.

The secret is the Individual state is not going to drop because you need it for survival purposes. For example a doorknob doesn't need a sense of self because it doesn't have pain receptors or emotions. The only purpose of the No Self Awakening is to realize that at your core you are Selfless and that you have to use your imagination to construct/build/erect a self. This is why this ego death stuff is an illusion. The ego is supposed to only drop temporarily. And No self is only half the coin, the other half is the Universal Self which is what you should really be gunning for because it removes the illusion of separation completely. If you only go for No Self that is a delusion because you have to detach yourself from existence which is really Spiritual Bypassing if left as it is. By recognizing you are also the Self you become full circle and become the complete whole self in your experience. No Self is not this not that, The Self is I AM EXISTENCE. You are both and have always been.

I get it...but hey humans are weird as hell and that weirdness is not going anywhere because God is weird as hell! Humans are only a small taste of God's weirdness. I have a saying whenever anything weird or annoying happens...it happened cause Infinity. LOL

Thanks yeah that is my goal, I aim to be even more direct than Leo. But I need to state that even though I am grateful for everything I have got here....it was the toughest thing I ever went through. I recognize that my definition of REAL is different than Leo. I have realized that an important caveat is each individual part of God's perspective is Sovereign and as such they each must come to their own definition of what REAL is. For me there is no difference between REAL and Imagination. I had to realize that Leo's interpretation to me didn't make sense. For example he has said that if you have any sense of there being Reality that is falsehood and I vehemently disagree with him. Real= A construction. Something that is arranged. Real= Imagination, as there is only Imagination. As such there is literally no difference between Real and Imaginary and to claim there is....is what falsehood is. A unicorn is not less Real than me. Super Mario is not less Real than me. But this is because their Realness comes from ME. Because I am the only thing that is REAL. God gives the gift of whatever it creates the power to be REAL. This is the only reason life can quote on quote fool you that it is Real, because YOU are making it Real. So this thing called Maya? The only Maya is separation. So as such your human self IS REAL, because GOD is REAL and there is only GOD. Trust me I tested that nonsense Leo said and discovered he had a small delusion borne of his attempts to rid himself of his humanness. He erroneously thinks that his humaneness is some how inherently corrupt etc.... Anyway the only reason why so many people will struggle is because they can fall into depersonalization. I actually got to experience it....it was interesting to say the least.

These are all links that helped me on my Spiritual Journey (only including Actualized.org sources) there are other sources that I used in the past but I wanted to keep them exclusively to this site so we can stop having new people coming to this site having to ask the same questions over and over making Leo threads asking him the same stuff. We can all admit that Leo doesn't always give satisfying answers in some threads while in others he does (it might be fatigue not sure why) but these threads helped me in understanding my own trips and realizations (I'm blessed in that seeing through self-deception comes easy to me...many people on this forum are self-deceived and are stubbornly so). I do Spirituality in a Scientific way. I tripped multiple times, meditated, and compared and contrasted different trip reports and perspectives of various people on here and youtube and ancient teachings. At a certain point certain things keep repeating themselves. Also since my base line Consciousness is lived Soberly as Direct Consciousness I can absolutely agree that traditional Buddhist Teachings are deluded. All that exists is Universal Mind. This is what all is mind means. So anybody that makes their teachings using terms like No Mind will confuse people who are new because that language will deceive them that there is actually something that isn't mind. I know when they say that they are pointing to the human mind/ego mind/conditioned mind, but its better to just say that. Many people on this path are too dogmatic and too addicted in trying to sound profound that they destroy the clarity of Spiritual Teachings. If you are truly sincere you will only want to help spread proper understanding. Anyway just my two cents....here are the Threads where Leo Gura answers many questions that get repeated on this site. 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. 7. 8. 9. 10. 11. 12. 13. 14. 15 16. https://www.actualized.org/forum/topic/15797-you-have-100-free-will-and-you-also-have-no-free-will-the-other-side-of-the-paradox/ I usually avoid threads that are attack threads of Leo because usually its some weak arguments devoid of any deep spiritual work (not always but usually) but I think this thread has some beautiful responses so I'll link it here. Now for some of Leo's blog posts...... 17. https://www.actualized.org/insights/thoughts-on-unconditional-love This next blog post is really the only reason I was able to find Spirituality and discover God. I was raised Christian, and even though Christianity is a corruption of God's message for humanity it was integral to my journey. As this blog post explains Religion only exists because God exists. 18. https://www.actualized.org/insights/actualized-quotes-126 Last but not least next link is a thread Flying Lotus did of Non Youtube Videos of Leo talking about various topics which can add to a deeper understanding of his content. Now understand all these threads are good for contemplation and integration but a couple of things need to be said. 1. Reading on the forums is NOT TRUE Spiritual Work towards awakening. It can be Spiritual Work as a SHARING but it is NOT Spiritual Work towards awakening. With that said...could you have a spontaneous awakening from consuming Spiritual Content? Yes!!! It has happened to me sober before so its possible as everything helps along your journey. But what is more effective in general is STATE CHANGE!!! You must focus on CHANGING YOUR STATE. The conditioned mind is VERY HARD to escape because you believe it to be you, it's really only a part of you, not the whole thing. It's funny because the conditioned mind blocks you from being able to perceive the PERFECTION of REALITY. REALITY is ABSOLUTELY PERFECT, but its perfection is blocked by all your judgments. 2. The key to this work is Self-Honesty. YOU WILL NOT REACH GOD THROUGH LIES. Understand that ANYONE who denies the existence of God is a FOOL. And I am not just talking a kind of fool.....I am saying they are so supremely deluded they are the most deluded human walking on the planet. Why? Because they are God....believing that there is no God!!!! Do you know how deluded that is? It's like denying there is a present moment!!! If you see anyone on this forum denying the existence of God understand that they are a FOOL. 3. Now....this needs to be said.....and is VERY IMPORTANT!!!! Doubt everything I say, doubt everything Leo says, Doubt even your own self and ONLY TRUST DIRECT EXPERIENCE!! The only TRUE KNOWLEDGE you have in your possession is that which you have DIRECTLY VERIFIED. This is the key to not being deluded. If you have not directly verified something then you are IGNORANT BY DEFAULT and can only know it as a human imaginary concept. Human imaginary concept IS NOT TRUTH! So do not lie to yourself, if you haven't experienced something YOU DO NOT KNOW IT!!! Understand....God is the ABSOLUTE TRUTH. God only adds to its understanding through EXPERIENCE!! Experience is the ONLY THING THAT IS TRUTH!!! This is the only way you can protect yourself from being lost in Self-Deception. . One thing you will discover if you do enough research is that each part of God experiences Reality differently but this includes God Realization. Yes Pure Consciousness is Nothingness so yes that part is universal, but it is also everything and that everythingness how it chooses to express itself is unique to the individual avatar. So you will ask...how do I know I reached what Leo is talking about? Well first and foremost the most important thing is to understand what was stated above, This video reinforces it. Now Leo had a quote in one of his videos where he said your sense of self will spill out into the surrounding area and everything will feel like you. So what does this mean? When you become aware of what PURE AWARENESS is (which is a feeling) you will become aware....that EVERYTHING is awareness. When this happens everything will feel as YOUR BODY. The wall, the insect, people, leaves, the veil of separation that people refer to....it actually isn't a veil....its subtlety. It was always there....but its so soft....so barely felt that you don't actually feel it. The true purpose of meditating is to make that subtlety NOT SUBTLE. When you do this....your mind will become UNIVERSAL and you will feel like you are IN everything. It really creates a whole new experiential world....and this is where you can start to feel alone...as your experience can change so drastically that nobody you know or listen to has that kind of wacky experience of reality. For example I don't watch cartoons...I AM CARTOONS THAT is how I experience them. I don't play video games...I AM THE VIDEO GAME. I'm not trying to brag here because I realize this is all possible for other humans. With that said....the process can and will probably be MESSY (it was for me) because my body had to CHANGE!!! My brain and neurons were changed and it was not always comfortable. This pursuit actually sent me to the psyche ward a couple of times because my brain started doing weird things. Anyway just know this path is not always straightforward. For example I once temporarily lost the ability to hear it corrected itself after like two minutes but it did scare me and I had to trust everything will pan out. The other scare I had was during the process of my reality becoming aware of its oneness I felt temporarily I had two bodies in one body (that felt extremely uncomfortable) when I would look at someone thankfully it corrected it after a couple of seconds where I was able to feel I was them but also my individual self at the same time. So weirdness can happen. 4. What I disagree with Leo on: Leo has stated his belief that genetics plays a big role in barring people from God Realization. This is where I disagree. God Realization is free for everyone if they TRULY WANT IT!! You have to want it so bad, that everything becomes inconsequential in comparison....even your own life as a human. You really do have to overcome fear of Death to reach God. I know its a tall task, but that is the only thing that TRULY stops you. With that said...yes your genetics do play a role. Some people are really Spiritually Super Human, but what I have learned through my communion with God.....and yes I know it sounds sappy but Love really does conquer all. If you have TRUE LOVE for your pursuit of the Infinite...it will take you and annihilate your conditioned mind. Because it is PURE LOVE, PURE TRUTH, and it loves you more than your human love could ever hope to compare too. It's actually quite funny when you discover TRUE LOVE within you, because it feels familiar like it was there the whole time....because....it was. The gift of true love is behind the passion of every Spiritual Teacher/Sharer. True Love is so beautiful....you realize all you want to do is share it and talk about it for eternity. It's grasp is so strong....you can't escape....which is why it makes sense why God has to hide from itself to create anything....because God is to good to be true....but it is....so it can only be something other if it deludes itself. I hope you discover you are TRUE LOVE!!!

I've awakened that there is no difference between the human perspective and God. We only use terms like human, and God because the experience is different. But its the same being there every time. For example I once left my body and went straight to God. I was an infinite mind creating things on the fly. While I was in that state....I still remembered I use to be a human only moments before and my thinking didn't change. All that happened was I was communicating with an Infinite Intelligence, had no freaking body at all ( I was like a camera basically lol just witnessing and communicating telepathically with what was there. At that point I started to feel sad because I thought my like has ended in my 30's and I wanted to complete the human life and as soon as I had that thought....Reality Pixealted itself back into the human life that I had known earlier and I was back being the human version of me again.

Lol I'm sorry to tell you...the Spirituality Forum is FULL of it. We actually do a good job of attracting people who struggle with mental health issues. I won't say everyone does because it takes a discerning eye to see through a person going through an Awakening Process which can create temporary mental instability, and someone who is just mentally unhealthy. But Spirituality is inherently full of Spiritual egos running amok each looking for time in the Spotlight. I'd suggest if you are becoming annoyed with anyone in particular (I apologize if I am one of those people LOL) then just block them. You can block them by clicking on your Profile in the top right hand corner of the screen. Going to ignored users and copy pasting their name. It lets you block their signatures, their mentions, their posts, and them from even messaging you. Solves the problem of annoying people for your viewing pleasure.