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Leo actually changed his argument on Infinity of Gods. I don't know why yall keep ignoring that. According to him you don't access to the POV of others because of their sovereignty. So he put out an intention and was able to make a connection to the God Head of that POV. So according to him Each POV has a God Head and is stuck in a solipsistic bubble. Since that God Head is INDENTITCAL to other God Heads because...its the same God then there really is no difference between saying there is one dream or many. But what IS true is, in your dream....you are the only being that exists. You are a single dreamer. But from each person's POV they are the only being that exists. So your human self is imaginary and so is everything you see. The only REAL thing, is that which looks through your eyes. But everything else...is imaginary.

Triggered....a touchy subject....when a statement, a picture, a feeling, whatever it is....unleashes a torrent of emotions!!! We all have been there....its like somebody pulled a lever and unleashed something...sometimes we didn't even know it was there!! You might go to sleep, and all of a sudden a NIGHTMARE!!! When you wake up you are like "Where the hell did that come from and why?" You talk to your friend and they say something you don't like!!! Trigger!!! You watch the news and the anchorman or woman says something!!! Trigger!!! Your dog pees on the floor for the umpteenth time even though you been taking him to get trained and for some reason it isn't taking!!!!!! TRIGGERRRRR! You get my point. So why in the hell would I ever suggest this is a GOOD THING? Am I Out Of Mind? YES!!! But that is besides the point!!! We can delve into that later!!! The reason why triggers are good, is they reveal the hidden emotional pain you are harboring but you are unaware that is there!! Isn't it lovely? You get to discover the hidden parts of yourself....that reside deep within!! For example let's say you still got some resentment from not belonging in your childhood....someone on this forum might make a post towards you or someone else...instantly you get offended!!! TRIGGER!!! You lash out and BLAME the person who just wrote words on a screen....that it is THEM who are responsible for the feelings that have risen from the surface. First of all....REALLY? You really believe that logic? A person (who you can't even be sure they are a person...they could be a bot) who put words on a screen, and have no clue about you at all as you are just an avatar....is RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUR PERSONAL FEELINGS? Do you even realize how silly that sounds? You see emotions are tricky thing. They are like a TIDAL WAVE!!! They can overwhelm you, engulf you, DROWNNN YOU!!! I mean I get it, they can be intense, they can also make you feel alone in that moment like a surfer out at sea all alone struggling to stay afloat and not drown! I get it!! But lay off it!! This victim, finger pointing, and blaming a random person on the forums for your emotional tidal wave needs to stop. The truth is you got TRIGGERED!! You can't control it, it happens, but the beauty of the trigger is each trigger is an OPPORTUNITY!! Its an OPPORTUNITY to EXPLORE AND DISCOVER WHAT IS HIDDEN!! Isn't it amazing? I see so many people on these forums always talking psychedelics and they have NO CLUE about the importance of TRIGGERS!!! The whole point of psychedelics is to explore the hidden parts of your mind....well TRIGGERS are a GREAT TOOL FOR THAT TOO!!! You get to discover your fears!!!! Your judgments, your biases, your blindspots!! Its ABSOLUTELY WONDERFUL!!! TRIGGERS are one of the best ways to learn about yourself in a way that another person doesn't have to point out for you because your TRIGGER POINTS IT OUT FOR YOU!!! So instead of running from your trigger, getting mad at what triggered you, YOU SHOULD BE REJOICING!!! You now have another opportunity to engage in the meaningful exploration of....the parts of yourself that are hidden!! So trigger away, heck unload that whole clip!!! Embrace the triggering that arises, and explore it wherever it leads!! Every time I get triggered or trigger others.... I know...I'm doing God's work and it is also being done on me. *Salute*

These are some good quotes....I had heard he was a Mystic...pretty interesting.

Lol exactly my point. Yeah humanity has a long way to go but interesting filter practice you use.

Thanks for the share man!! All of the above is SAVAGE!!! It was also a pleasure to read!!

I'm sure what he wrote was a typo. I think he meant brain when he put you have no mind.

^I'll check him out. I know Tony says coming to his meetings, gives a different energy resonance than watching his videos, so maybe if someone wants the veil to drop that could be their best bet. He explicitly states for people that its all about an "openness to the communication" which has nothing to do with the ME. LOL. That man is the ME annihilator. I love it!!! And his laugh is infectious. He also made fun of Rupert Spira in one of his videos...lol. He mentioned there were 3 people who teach his style of messages that awoke from his messages. There is a guy named Kenneth Madden who awoke after coming to Tony's meetings about 10 years I think ago. Also there is an Asian guy who also awoke from his meetings. He mentioned there was one other person....I wonder if its this Andreas Mueller guy you are mentioning. But yeah I like Tony's laugh as he destroys all hope and meaning. My friend told me he reminds him of this DMT Elf from one of his trips.

Fixed that for you ^ Keep the encouragement coming!!!

^Can we even help that? Ain't that like a chain reaction from most humans?

You know....its funny...in the beginning I found you an annoyance and now all I feel is love. Lol. Thank you for always disagreeing...no idea why I enjoy it now. But I was literally thinking where my boy axiom at? And there he is!!! I'm really starting to understand how people grow on you, in the beginning it can feel like resistance and then...you get so used to them you enjoy their prescience. Thank you for your responses on these forums.

Cool....but let's be honest....that Leo *looks around* is lurking around some where....don't let him catch you!!! LOL! Cool man glad you had a good dream. And yeah awakening is definitely like waking up from a dream....but for me it was like waking up from a force induced slumber in which I was asking myself...REALLY? Why in the hell would I ever hide this aspect from myself? Whhhhyyyy? Lol I felt like a child who was growing up in a magical world and allowed myself to indoctrinate myself into thinking it was some machine oriented mechanical world and then you find out its freaking magic and you are like WHHHY??? LOL.

Very unique post....question....if Dream Leo tortured you....and turned into some demonic alien that strapped you to a table probed you anally for a million years while screaming at the top of his lungs that everything is love!!!.....Would you still thank him? ^I know this sounds silly but I am actually honest about this question. Why? Come on man you can't go thanking Leo for your Dream Leo....lol. Waking Leo has no clue what Dream Leo is up to!! LOL!! He should probably add to his disclaimers IF YOU SEE ME IN YOUR DREAMS, WAKING LEO HAS NO RESPONSIBILITY FOR WHAT DREAM LEO ENGAGES IN. LOL!!

How did you survive when you were homeless and how did you get out of being homeless. Also psychedelics alone are just a tool, the contemplation and deconstruction is the most important point. The voices in your head are your own creation. Essentially every personality you meet in the "real world" are just the thoughts/personalities within your own mind. So basically when you get into an argument with say ME for example...you are just arguing with one thought versus your current thought POV. I'm glad that based on what you wrote you appear to be doing fine. All the best to you. I would recommend realizing that the more you tap into consciousness altering substances dark themed thoughts/ paranoia/fear based thinking becomes more rampant and silly little storylines will start to be created. You need to be able to allow thoughts to arise....but not stick to them. Naturally we have been raised in cultures that have trained us to identity with our thoughts and become stuck with whatever thought arises. Other than that all the best.

Lol Oh come off it SOUL every human that has ever lived engages in this. But....that bit of putting that picture of Leo looking up at that very phrase I wrote...was GOLDEN!!! But yeah again...I do it, and on some level at some point in time we all do it. But....that was very good comedic timing. Take a bow Soul take a bow!!! Lol!!

What is Self-Righteousness? Self-Righteousness is the Ego's Sneaky Little BackDoor To Take Control When It Feels Threatened and Delude Itself Into Thinking That It Is Doing The Right Thing. This sneakiness is the cause of the Holy Wars, of Witch Trials, and Parents telling their kids what careers they should do, what religion they should worship, and what race they should marry into etc. The Ego likes to portray itself as the only sane one in the room. The one that sees things as they really are. The Ego believes it has the ultimate absolute truth and everyone needs to listen. How does this play out? *Admonishment: How dare you!!! You should know better!! Everyone knows you are supposed to do this and that!! Shame on you!! Straighten Up!!! *Superiority: I don't know why others act like that. They should act like this, but noooo they are so stupid and selfish and silly, and childish. *Need To Be Right: Even when evidence is presented that the person made an error, or maybe they are guilty of the same thing they are accusing another of they deflect, claim its different, or completely ignore that point altogether. Now I am not going to be a hypocrite and act like I don't do any of the above....lol I do...a lot actually. Particularly the Superiority bit with my friends, its an old habit and truthfully just something done for entertainment and giggles. I often laugh when people try to present this pious holy than thou attitude....get off of it lol!!! Most of you ain't holy and even the one who is...its just an act. Once you realize that everything in existence is just acting out a role, you won't take these things so seriously. Anyway....pay attention if you see yourself displaying any of these characteristics or you see it in others. Its okay for shits and giggles but when it comes to things like judging others...recognize you are being a hypocrite. Let he who is without sin cast the first stone. Nothing wrong with calling out behavior you don't agree with, but once you start judging others.....lol you are being delusional. Now you can be delusional if that is your choice, but recognize....only a devil judges, God/Infinite Love accepts everything. Also.....watch this video from Leo....maybe it will loose up some of that judgment. If you know of any other examples of self-righteousness? List them here!!

Here is another one I found. Bigot= a person who is obstinately or unreasonably attached to a belief, opinion, or faction, especially one who is prejudiced against or antagonistic toward a person or people on the basis of their membership of a particular group. What people don't understand is.....this is an identity game. Because membership of a particular group can be ANYTHING. It can be part of ideological camp, such as a person who houses a particular belief. So a person who thinks trans are bad, to a transperson they are a bigot, but to the transphobic person the person who disagrees IS A BIGOT!! Both are pointing at each other calling the other bigot!!! Its an identity game. And an elaborately juicy one as well. People get very emotionally vested into these ego dramas, not understanding...how history works and why people believe what they believe. Sometimes I forget myself but because I have studied history....and I have talked to OLD PEOPLE I am reminded that people's beliefs are entangled with the time period they are born in. Its interesting....transpeople want transphobic people to be open-minded but they themselves lack the open-mindedness necessary to understand why the transphobic people think the way they do. The most liberated I ever became before Spirituality is when I stopped caring as a Black Man if someone hated or thought less of me for the color of my skin. It was utterly and completely liberating. Housing that hatred inside....its not healthy.

Here is the definition of a grifter. https://www.google.com/search?q=Grifter+definition&rlz=1C1VDKB_enUS991US992&oq=Grifter+definition&aqs=chrome..69i57.5236j0j15&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8 Here is another source. https://www.vocabulary.com/dictionary/grifter https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/grift Here is another source. How many sources do you want? A grifter is a CON ARTIST. Okay now let's address your next points. You said I put the person through emotional hounding? You would need to explain this one because that is something that is completely subjective. In truth you are projecting your own biases now onto me in how I am supposed to respond? So now you are telling me HOW I need to respond? Look at all this self-righteousness? Listen DrugsBunny, the world does not revolve around your opinion. You do not have the authority of the right to tell someone HOW they should respond to someone. Do you have any clue how much arrogance is within you to TELL SOMEONE how they SHOULD or SHOULD NOT respond. Now you can make a suggestion....sure that is warrantable. But you are sitting here telling me HOW to respond? Especially...when you literally tried to correct me and YOU WERE WRONG. And you say I AM EMBARRASSING? You did not know that a grifter was a con artist. And instead of using a SIMPLE GOOGLE SEARCH to find that out. You responded immediately because what I wrote triggered you. GOOD that trigger is something telling you that there is deep hurt inside. THAT is why you came to their defense. You should be asking yourself WHY did what I type trigger you. I am not responsible for your emotion or anyone's emotions. Your emotions are YOUR CREATION. Stop blaming me or telling me HOW to respond. You can offer suggestions maybe let me know that maybe I was being too harsh. But first...LEARN WHAT A GRIFTER IS!!! That term is VERY OLD, VERYYYY OLD. A grifter is a person who engages in confidence games, they trick people into believing in them to gain something. If you did ANY research into Jordan Peterson's life he is FAR from a grifter. VERYYYYY FAR. You would need EVIDENCE to PROVE that. The man has a clinical practice which means HE IS LICENSED!!! WHICH MEANS HE IS GOVERNED BY AN ETHICS BOARD!!! To claim he is a con artist is a SERIOUS offence and could get him to LOSE his license!!! If you made a claim of him being a grifter in a magazine HE WOULD SUE YOU FOR LIBEL!!! Then you would have to PROVE how your assertions ARE TRUE!!! EASY to do for someone like Donald Trump!!! But Jordan Peterson? Good luck!! Now I say all the above with Love and Care!!! But PLEASE!!!! PLEASE!!!! Do some research before you respond to me!!! I stopped giving in to debates in the past for a reason....I really don't want to debate with anyone....because most people....only want to emotionally vent and defend their biases.

......You really have no clue what you are saying. When you enter deep sleep there is no dream....so you are unconscious. When you appear out of it...do you exist or don't you? Its BOTH. You are literally trying to pin down Reality which is infinite. You cannot pin down the infinite. Tell your finger nails, your heart beat, that it doesn't exist. As someone knocks you out yet your heart is still breathing. Stop the nonsense lol. Existence and Nonexistence are ONE. Death and Life are ONE. LOL. Stop the word games.

Reality is an infinite perspective...so whatever POV you take...that will be your experience.

^ Do you realize what you just said? You literally called Jordan Peterson a con artist. If you make a claim like that you would need actual events that can substantiate your claim. How do I know YOU aren't a con artist? Look you have some strong emotions against Jordan Peterson sure, but you can't go around just calling people con artists because what they say offends you. Also for Jordan Peterson to be Con Artist...he would have to NOT believe what he is saying (Like Donald Trump for example who just lies all the time) I truly believe that every word that comes out of Jordan Peterson's mouth is what he believes. Now someone can be wrong and not a liar, as a lie is a conscious attempt to deceive someone which means you are AWARE the information you are giving you do not believe. Jordan Peterson has biases sure, but....what person doesn't? Right now....your bias against Jordan Peterson is showing. You would only like Jordan Peterson if he says things you like....that's bias, and its also controlling. Life is going to continually expose you to people you don't agree with, you can choose to ignore them or contend with them/debate them. Either way the whole point of having a POV (point of view) is it is inevitably going to conflict with other POV. Its normal and a natural part of life. What becomes a blind spot is when you start demonizing others because they don't agree with you. Is Jordan Peterson biased? Yes. Is he full of fear? Yes. Does he do the best he is currently capable of to operate from the level of development he is at? Absolutely. The man is a product of every single event in his life, outside of some Eckhart Tolle instant enlightment he is pretty much set on what he believes. I do not believe he is ready to plunge any further into the unknown so he will dance around the edges. As a result he is going to have biases about Transgenders and whatever makes sense from his perspective. It isn't malicious he ACTUALLY BELIEVES HE IS RIGHT. But he isn't brave enough....to drop everything he believes in and investigate beyond his normal education into deep metaphysical territory on the nature of reality.

1. Naw... man you don't understand infinity.....by studying it....you awaken to it in it's totality and you recognize it by BEING it. Infinity is understood from BEING it. Again if you really think....that this is the endpoint....then this is all you will ever know. 2. At higher levels you get to actually be everything there ever was and ever will be. And don't tell me its part of the dream because EVERYTHING is the dream. Both the sense of a self and no self are both in the dream. Reality itself IS the dream. So there is no where to go, and nothing to do. 3. One of the highest realizations you get is there is a knowing that is beyond words or concepts. So yes...the different levels of awakening that exists give you those. Again Reality is a STORY that tells itself a STORY. It tells itself a story on every level, through every sensory experience imaginable. It can do this an infinite number of ways because it has no boundaries. 4. Its like I create the greatest VR simulator ever, and you guys come in and tell everyone to use the first settings and never explore anything else. 5. Also that last part you said....the effort is futile, and that's where the real work begins. According to Tony, he would disagree with you. He would say there is no real work to begin because that implies free will and that you just contradicted yourself because you said effort is futile so how can you then say real work. He would tell you that his meetings are energetic, but you have no control on what appears to happen. An Openness is needed to his "communication" but that its completely out of your control. In my opinion he doesn't explain the Free Will conundrum well. Free Will is both an illusion and real at the same time. If I hide that you are being controlled, and give you the illusion of choice....then you have free will. If I reveal by dropping the veil that hides your lack of choice and reveal you are being controlled....then your free will is gone. Illusion and Real are ONE and the SAME. Its like going to a Magic Show and never understanding the tricks. You can CLAIM you know its fake but until you figure out how its done....its the same as being real. Illusion and Real are ONE and the SAME.

The Leo that did it for the first time....was unable to do it daily. Leo you are speaking from current Leo, who is a different Leo. Younger Black T-Shirt Leo says and I quote "No you don't want to do this everyday." Come on Leo....don't forget your younger days. LOL.

Lol a friend put me onto him. He definitely is rather interesting, but he isn't the endpoint. But he is definitely useful for people who want to awaken to NO SELF. But if you think Tony's message is the sticking point....then you have no clue what Infinity is. Most people are not going to break out of their dream state listening to him, even with a resonance to his talks. Even with the understanding of no free will etc, I can tell you from direct experience that even the concept of Free Will isn't even as simple as he states it. For example....every POV is equally GOD in its totality. You can raise your consciousness and realize that the entire universe is in synch with every movement that you make. That your movements in your human body isn't because of nerves....its because of Universal Will. You realize your will is universal will. You also realize that through the illusion you created in the dream free will exists because you hide from yourself the construction of the dream and how it functions. So its like taking a test that you created and have the answers but wiped your memory and now have to figure out what the answers are. Anyway I like Tony.... I believe he does good work in helping people get to the bottom. He is also the complete 360 degree opposite of Leo lol. There couldn't be two more different speakers on Spirituality than those two.

You are dreaming. THE END. This is a dream. Its like asking what will happen on the next Movie in the Marvel Cinematic Universe. There is nothing to transcend. This is a DREAM, A STORY, and we are all the characters. Can Harry Potter transcend the Harry Potter series? No. Can Spider Man transcend the Spider Man series? No. Leo cannot transcend the Leo series. And you cannot transcend the Julian Gabriel series. You are the Universe....floating in an Infinite Void dreaming. When you awake you will realize....you were asleep. No different than your night time dream. But hey....its a cool story!!!