Razard86

Why, why must yall beat yall selves up so much!! WHYY!!!!!! Seriously man, you are not a 40 year old creep, that is an identity you have taken on, and you have sentenced yourself to hell with that one!!! Shawn you are 40 years old!!! You should at least by now have recognized identity and construct awareness by now!!! Free yourself from this identity and take on one that can be more enjoyable. Also you can learn how to pick up women at any age if that is your desire. PM me and I can point you to some resources if you are interested. Other than that please, please speak more highly of yourself man.

I don't disagree that we are moving towards justice, but that is only because consciousness is rising. No structure, no system, can ever create a world that humans can live freely in. Humans must first themselves become free, before they can create a free society. Every society's problems is just a reflection of their level of consciousness. People keep focusing on the system, you can fix the system all you want (and I am not saying it doesn't need to be fixed) but until the people in the system have a paradigm shift they are just going to keep operating from a place of nepotism. In fact its funny too me that majority of people I talk to who don't understand things from a Spiritual perspective really believe that things will stay this way forever. Pretty interesting to me.

Status and leadership, and majority of the doctrine that has been taught immemorial was developed and propagated by men. So men brainwash women with propaganda then get mad that they fall for the propaganda. Women are only more prone to negative emotions because they don't suppress them, but when men who suppress emotions get around women and children they actually become more prone to negative emotions than both women and children because they have spent their entire life before then suppressing them. This is why most men in the presence of women and children are psychologically weaker and for a man to properly relate to his wife and child he actually has to full develop emotional maturity. Its easy for men to relate to the average man because he only has to show a limited amount of emotional expression around them.

Thanks for the reply, I have a buffer for the point you made. "make a list of the positive and loving qualities you have in relationship to others, and see how many of these qualities you consistently show towards yourself in day to day life." Also how about this? How often do you notice those positive and loving qualities you have in comparison to the negative qualities? Most people fear being proud of themselves because they are afraid to be arrogant so they force themselves to be humble by purposefully focusing on what they don't like about themselves, resisting all praise from others, and being overly critical in an attempt to be "perfect" or "good." This means they view themselves as something to be fixed or corrected. A lot of people live their entire lives this way, its a sad thing to realize but the traps that others fall in, recognize and avoid them for yourself.

The feeling of separation, and the massively used model of a physical, matter based reality creates a large amount of fear and a Me Against The World mentality/reality. As such most people view life as a battle zone, and home their hospital, their rest and relaxation to recuperate from the battle field. I know for me personally this was my reality for a large portion of my life but for some bizarre reason I sought truth even in the face of extreme pain but I too also sought rest and relaxation as well. Since most people are extremely self-critical of themselves, most people actually need their self-critical thoughts to be below the surface otherwise they would probably commit suicide. When people experience what is called "bad trips" they are only facing their own self-critical thoughts and the more you have the more hellish the experience. I'm sorry to say but that is how this game was designed so I am not blaming you for it, but I am bringing to awareness you can do something about it. The path to pleasure in this dream is to face pain. Its almost like a rule that the path to pleasure always involves pain. Those who get the most pleasure also seem to have experienced the most pain as well. So paradoxical this life is, its almost laughable. Anyway since most people you meet are in hell, you need to give them some heaven for them to ever open up to you at all. Got a friend who is a drunk you want to help get off that addiction? Listing them all the reasons why what they are doing is destroying their life won't work. Patience, openness in communication, receptivity, and lack of judgment is what they need. Its infuriating when someone you love is hurting themselves and you have to be patient. When they hurt you hurt, but just like all things, this too shall pass if you have the patience of a saint!!! What I am loving about life, is it keeps teaching me what love is, and what truth is and it does it so obviously and you can only receive it from a place unsullied by ego. Ego is agenda, ego is resistance, ego is preference, ego is force, ego is desire to control, ego is close-mindedness, ego is accusatory and denial of actions, ego is impatience, ego is annoyance, ego is misunderstanding, all these I have learned from personal experience. Life is a really great teacher if you listen. So I have said before, wisdom is whatever action that is taken that increases self-love. This means whatever action you do that switches the state of consciousness of others to a more loving accepting state. Here is an absolute, your ability to handle the painful, rough aspects of the truth, is equivalent to your current state of love. Since most people are at a low state of love, they need a lot of pleasure to build them up. The problem is, that pleasure is never enough because they are constantly subconsciously building up pain in the form of self-judgment and so need to constantly seek pleasure to ward off that pain and thus are stuck in an infinite loop of pleasure seeking. If you are ever engaged in working with people full of self-judgment understand they are only mean, irritable, and selfish because they are full of self-judgment. The vile behavior they are projecting outward is a result of them suffering their own vile inner talk and they need to release it to get some rest. I'm not saying it is right, but it is a necessity for their survival and sanity. Many people ask why should I be good? Easy, because goodness is peace, peace with yourself and others. Why should I detach from ego? Because Ego is conflict and lack of peace. In fact here is a good barometer for you to know if you are in ego, your peace is disturbed!!! The other barometer is you have a desire to protect or defend something absolutely, instead of relatively. Any hard stance will most likely reek of ego so beware. Egos need pleasure because they are constantly at war, so anytime you are in the process of healing and awakening the egoic, the lure will be pleasure not pain. Self-righteousness, lecturing, moralizing is not going to awaken God from within, only compassion. Critique, and direction can only be taken when the person is in an open state, in a state of receptivity which can only exist when there is security. That security is self-love. So when one has overcome their own self-judgments can they be open to even hear what is being said. People misunderstand you often because they have no desire to understand you. Open-mindedness has its own pace, and I am learning constantly through observation why things are the way they are. Each state of consciousness expresses itself a certain way, and it cannot be any other way as it is currently.

I have no clue what the hell this is, but thought it was funny so I would share it.

Its on topic and you are correct!!! Its why in a lot of stories of charismatic heroic movies/t.v. shows the main character eventually befriends his/her enemy over time. Your enemy is really just someone who has a different view of right and wrong. Its why the story of Adam and Eve is so central to understanding conflict. Somebody thinks your bad based on their level of personal development and from their vantage point. 20 year old version of me actually believed in good v.s. evil and thus looked at life differently than current version of me. So 20 year old version of me would see certain people as enemies whereas current version of me sees these "enemies' as confused people who don't realize they have been brainwashed into believing good v.s. evil. https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/17976-if-you-know-the-enemy-and-know-yourself-you-need To know yourself completely, is to know all others completely. ^^^^ This was even shown in the Art of War book as well. ^^^ Also I don't disagree with the thread title, its all relative!!! Sometimes you have to encourage someone first, before they can be strong, and secure enough to take criticism.

I drank some hot cocoa style coffee once in my entire life. It was delicious and I ended up staying awake for like 15-18 hours lol.

I'm glad you understand this, I really get tired of people looking at the messenger to verify the message its why successful people can continually brainwash people because of the laziness of this standard. You look at the message ALONE, in all its entirety. I'm not saying you cannot think about the messenger, but eventually you have to get beyond them otherwise you are handing your authority away. The message is the only thing that matters at the end of the day, not the messenger. In fact ironically obese people are actually the BEST messengers for how to lose weight, just do THE OPPOSITE!!! LOL.

Carl- Richard...healthier? Literally every society has been built on the exploitation of the masses, control of information, discrimination, and nepotism. It has taken humanity 2000 plus years just to get to the current condition they are in now and that required tons of people who were willing to die to speak truth to power to create change. Society has never been healthy, its why even currently with all the evidence that our actions are destroying the planet we don't care and adopt the kick the can down the road its somebody else's problem. Just in America alone, I could write a whole book write now on how corrupt, unethical, and irresponsible they are and they have a more robust list of guidelines than the puny little list you presented us with. There is the law on the books (the list of rules you create) and the law in action (how it is actually enforced) and what has always been shown throughout history is that no matter how many rules you create corruption will always be apparent. Why? Because you are dealing with egos. The solution isn't more rules, the solution is to raise consciousness. Morality is created out of fear, any actions taken out of fear creates corruption because corruption IS FEAR. Governments are corrupted through fear, so are religions and any teachings. The moment you engage in fear tactics, demonization happens, conflict happens, and corruption and justification of that corruption happens. This is why I keep bringing up the story of Adam and Eve. You are pushing the tree of knowledge of good and evil right now. All conflict stems from humans believing in a good v.s. evil, and debating on what is good or evil. 1. They don't even understand what goodness is because goodness doesn't even perceive evil. In the eyes of goodness ALL is good at every moment. The MOMENT you perceive evil, you will commit evil. 2. Evil only happens due to a low state of consciousness, if all of humanity's consciousness were raised it would be impossible for them to commit evil. Why? Because there would be a recognition of oneness in that they literally could not hurt you without hurting themselves. Because humans are not at a state where they can feel the pain they inflict they can walk around inflicting pain with no care and only suffer subconsciously from the pain they inflict with no awareness that they are creating that pain. So raise the consciousness then evil is gone. I personally don't need morality to behave as the only thing you need to know is everyone is you so treat them with the same care and love you would give yourself. It allows me to know if I am going too far. I don't need anything else but to raise my consciousness even further to become even more adept at knowing what the appropriate action is.

I confuse you because you desire to be confused. Confusion only happens to a mind that is close-minded. When you seek to disagree, rather than understand you will be confused. So no I don't confuse you, YOU confuse you. When I say ego I literally explained in my post what I meant. I said all identities are relative, if all identities are relative then if you take any stance as an absolute then you are stuck in ego. If you take a position from a relative point of view then you are not in ego. Many on here are taking absolute positions, as a result they are communicating from a place of ego. To be free of egoic perspective your perspective would have to be relativistic, this would reveal that you understand that reality is purely relative with every moment.

Let this guy be a living example of what happens when you enter Spirituality too early. This Youtuber is obviously young, hasn't done the ground work to understand Spirituality and was not doing it from a desire to understand truth and love. Additionally they still have some personal emotional issues they still need to work through to even take this type of self-inquiry into the nature of reality seriously. There is also a lot of victim blaming in the video, notice he watches a video and turns himself into a victim. Notice how he blames Leo for how he feels about what is being said. That's like a skinny guy blaming a muscular guy for him making him feel weak in comparison!!! The guy can just turn the video off and go about his business but not only does he blame Leo for his own personal feelings he makes a video saying he is DANGEROUS!!! It's so funny how when someone doesn't like your message they want you to cancelled or outed!!! LOL!! Anyway I do emphasize with what is going on with him, as psychosis is a scary thing to go through and something you will need to face if you are willing to go deep enough. The path to God Realization deals with facing the groundless and unstable nature of reality that the normal baseline conscious experience doesn't normally entail. This is why grounding these experiences with a deep understanding is necessary otherwise you will think you are going insane. This work is dangerous for those who ignorantly jump far off into the deep end and some can wind up in mental hospitals permanently if they are not careful.

This is Steve Rio, he and his wife work in Canada helping people on their spiritual journeys with meditation, breathwork, and 5 MEO DMT work as well. The name of his company is Enclave. I like his mindset, it really does show that 5 MEO can really open up someone's connection with Infinity.

This!! Well done Nilsi nice analogy!!! Its all about relativity. There are no levels, but in relation to the present moment, there are levels.

Illusion and real are the same. If change was ONLY illusion then the truth cannot exist because the truth is the only thing that is real. If it wasn't real then it couldn't be true. If change doesn't exist, then nothing exists. So what is the truth? It is real and unreal, if it was clearly unreal then it could never be mistaken as real and nobody would have to meditate, self-inquiry, to find that it was an illusion. So what does this mean? Real and Unreal is a state of consciousness. If it is a state of unconsciousness, that means real and unreal CHANGES depending on the state. This means that change is REAL!!! Stop trying to pin down infinity, YOU CANNOT! All language, all concept, all identity of ANY KIND IS RELATIVE!!!! All language is RELATIVE!!! The only absolute is relativity, which allows anything to be KNOWN at all. Without relativity, there is no contrast, and nothing to be known. Being doesn't need contrast to know it exists, but being does need contrast to experience what it is. Here is a visual representation for you.

Society is a cult, every society ever made is a cult. Spirituality actually isn't a cult because it does not encourage group think but individual sovereignty and literally spirituality teaches that the highest wisdom is to treat others with the equal love and respect you have for yourself. It also holds that in times of crisis that being able to sacrifice yourself for others as a virtue. The only time spirituality becomes cult-like is when it starts to mirror society. Cults are not anarchy, for a cult to exist and persist it needs stability. Cults only seem like anarchy to other cults, no different than how the United States and other countries try to tell other countries how to run their country under the guise of knowing what social responsibility is.

Sea Monster you are very talented in not being able to understand what someone is communicating and erecting storylines and comprehensions and accusations of what is being communicated. I don't think I have ever come across someone as talented at misunderstanding people as you. It's like you enter everything LOOKING for a fight and a debate. In fact I think I am at awe at your ability to do this, its rather profound. You are deeply seated in a me against the world mentality and its a beautiful thing to see in action. You should author movies, your ability to create conflict is divine!

This entire thread is ego lol yall arguing and finding things to argue with just for the sake of arguing. There is a lot of ignorant responses on this thread which reveals a certain lack of experience to things that is obvious. Try giving psychedelic experiences or high intensity experiences to a child that throws it into bouts of infinite visions with no ground and see what happens. Development is a part of spirituality like everything else, anytime someone starts denying some aspect of the truth (what is) to pick a side and defend it they reach ego. Are there exceptions to what I am presenting? OF COURSE THERE ARE because all identities are relative. I'm talking about in general what is true. There are beings who are born enlightened so none of what is posted here would apply to them. But in general when dealing with the path, development and doctrine is needed. If that wasn't the case....it wouldn't be the case. Instead of always trying to tear down the ancient, ask yourself why it exists at all. To build a house you need a foundation, at a certain level of technological development, future houses may not require this but at the current level of technology they do. EVERYTHING IS RELATIVE.

It's okay man, they still want to cling to the belief of right and wrong. Until one is ready to drop the belief of right and wrong they need rules and regulations to keep them feeling safe. While everything you said is on point, they cannot understand as long as they cling to right and wrong.

There was a girl who had a pet cat, she loved her cat dearly! Her cat was cute, adorable, and loved to play with her. Her cat was also well trained and always had a knack of being able to lift up her day no matter how bad it went! As the girl got older so did her cat and one day her cat grew sick in its old age. The girl prayed to God to spare her cat, she loved it and did not want to be parted from it!! Eventually her cat died of its sickness and the girl enraged cursed God and couldn't understand how if God was love how could God not spare her cat from death! Eventually the girl became a woman and became a doctor of psychology. She had a patient given to her who acted very weird. This patient enraged her, because as a man he did not fulfil his responsibilities. This man acted in a way that defied anything she had ever encountered! No book could explain his actions because this was unprecedented! This man she surmised after long study, literally acted like a cat!! He acted as if he was cute, adorable, and tried to play with her as if he were a cat! It was creepy, disgusting, and she couldn't stand him!! She thought back to when she was a child and how when things got bad she could always play with her cat, who she used to call Cherry. Out of nostalgia she brought the ball she use to use to play with her cat to work and when the patient she was treating came he instantly pounced on the ball and started playing with it as if he were a cat. Taken a back by this she attempted to get the ball back and cried out "That's not for you that is Cherry's ball!" Suddenly the man turned and reacted to that name. Now when the man was admitted it was said he never responded to any name that was given to him. So this was the first time she could get the guy to react to something she said. She repeated the name "Cherry" and the man stopped what he was doing and turned around. Now the woman was in shock, a thought entered her head could this guy be the spirit of her dead cat? She started showing the guy pictures of her and her cat and watched his eyes light up! She couldn't believe it!! This whole time her cat was in front of her, but because it didn't look the way she thought it should she judged it and shunned it!! She prayed to God and asked for forgiveness. At this point she realized what love really was! Love was not trying to force something to look a certain way, love was accepting something as it was! Shortly after this realization the man who was her patient eventually stopped thinking he was a cat and was able to return to his family and be who he once was. Apparently he started acting like a cat around the same time her cat had died. This woman went on to become one of the greatest her field of study had ever seen, because she could see beyond the appearance of what was, into its state of being.

Found a video by a Youtuber who is tripping on acid that buttresses my point. And I'll add a Leo clip.

Let's make a list of absolute aspects of reality Reality is Love Reality is Truth Reality is Impermanent Reality is a Dream Got anymore share them!!

I literally gave in, as it was the most logical thing to do. The realization that I was not in control allowed me the space to give in. Sea Monster you are speaking from a place of ignorance which is understandable you can't help what you don't understand. There was a reason the teachings have been esoteric in nature. Also pretty much everything you just mentioned I didn't even say. When did I say you double down on your strengths? Notice how you are erecting story lines that I never uttered. Did you even watch the video? The purpose of the teachings is to allow the seeker a way to understand what is happening to them. If a random person with no knowledge has a full blown kundalini awakening they could freak out and kill themselves. Do you know how many people in the West have been getting awakenings with no support system or anything to rely upon? Go do some research and actually speak from a place of understanding. When people enter into this domain with a lack of knowledge they can do harm to themselves or others. There have been people who have died from taking psychedelics from mixing the wrong chemicals or committing suicide. So yes understanding is important, when people have no clue what they are doing they freak out.

Yep. But not the human you, the screen of awareness that holds whatever you are experiencing the totality of everything within that frame is you.