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The true goal of Spiritual Work is God Realization. Enlightenment is just the first major step on the path. Enlightenment is the truth of no Self, it's part of the classic Buddhist path. Then the Self Realization (All is the Self) is the classic Advaita Vedanta. Then there is the Awakening to Love which is the fundamental nature of ALL OF REALITY. I mean if you think you are done you are sorely mistaken and that is what is Spiritual Ego.

Umm you can....and its not Spiritual ego. If you think thats Spiritual ego...then you are creating a Spiritual ego to be afraid of....which is Spiritual ego. No self is nothing. The other stuff I just mentioned are the other facets of the Universal Mind that you are. If you have not awakened to Absolute Goodness and Perfection then you couldn't even properly understand Morality for example. So there is a ton of integration there to be had. But hey...assume you are the expert here and fall into the very ego you fear. That which you fear you resist, that which resists, persists.

Have you awakened to the Universal Self? Have you awakened to Absolute Goodness? Have you awakened to Absolute Perfection? Have you awakened to Pure Love? Have you awakened to Absolute Truth? Have you awakened to the fact that you are God? If not...well there ya go.

These are all links that helped me on my Spiritual Journey (only including Actualized.org sources) there are other sources that I used in the past but I wanted to keep them exclusively to this site so we can stop having new people coming to this site having to ask the same questions over and over making Leo threads asking him the same stuff. We can all admit that Leo doesn't always give satisfying answers in some threads while in others he does (it might be fatigue not sure why) but these threads helped me in understanding my own trips and realizations (I'm blessed in that seeing through self-deception comes easy to me...many people on this forum are self-deceived and are stubbornly so). I do Spirituality in a Scientific way. I tripped multiple times, meditated, and compared and contrasted different trip reports and perspectives of various people on here and youtube and ancient teachings. At a certain point certain things keep repeating themselves. Also since my base line Consciousness is lived Soberly as Direct Consciousness I can absolutely agree that traditional Buddhist Teachings are deluded. All that exists is Universal Mind. This is what all is mind means. So anybody that makes their teachings using terms like No Mind will confuse people who are new because that language will deceive them that there is actually something that isn't mind. I know when they say that they are pointing to the human mind/ego mind/conditioned mind, but its better to just say that. Many people on this path are too dogmatic and too addicted in trying to sound profound that they destroy the clarity of Spiritual Teachings. If you are truly sincere you will only want to help spread proper understanding. Anyway just my two cents....here are the Threads where Leo Gura answers many questions that get repeated on this site. 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. 7. 8. 9. 10. 11. 12. 13. 14. 15 16. https://www.actualized.org/forum/topic/15797-you-have-100-free-will-and-you-also-have-no-free-will-the-other-side-of-the-paradox/ I usually avoid threads that are attack threads of Leo because usually its some weak arguments devoid of any deep spiritual work (not always but usually) but I think this thread has some beautiful responses so I'll link it here. Now for some of Leo's blog posts...... 17. https://www.actualized.org/insights/thoughts-on-unconditional-love This next blog post is really the only reason I was able to find Spirituality and discover God. I was raised Christian, and even though Christianity is a corruption of God's message for humanity it was integral to my journey. As this blog post explains Religion only exists because God exists. 18. https://www.actualized.org/insights/actualized-quotes-126 Last but not least next link is a thread Flying Lotus did of Non Youtube Videos of Leo talking about various topics which can add to a deeper understanding of his content. Now understand all these threads are good for contemplation and integration but a couple of things need to be said. 1. Reading on the forums is NOT TRUE Spiritual Work towards awakening. It can be Spiritual Work as a SHARING but it is NOT Spiritual Work towards awakening. With that said...could you have a spontaneous awakening from consuming Spiritual Content? Yes!!! It has happened to me sober before so its possible as everything helps along your journey. But what is more effective in general is STATE CHANGE!!! You must focus on CHANGING YOUR STATE. The conditioned mind is VERY HARD to escape because you believe it to be you, it's really only a part of you, not the whole thing. It's funny because the conditioned mind blocks you from being able to perceive the PERFECTION of REALITY. REALITY is ABSOLUTELY PERFECT, but its perfection is blocked by all your judgments. 2. The key to this work is Self-Honesty. YOU WILL NOT REACH GOD THROUGH LIES. Understand that ANYONE who denies the existence of God is a FOOL. And I am not just talking a kind of fool.....I am saying they are so supremely deluded they are the most deluded human walking on the planet. Why? Because they are God....believing that there is no God!!!! Do you know how deluded that is? It's like denying there is a present moment!!! If you see anyone on this forum denying the existence of God understand that they are a FOOL. 3. Now....this needs to be said.....and is VERY IMPORTANT!!!! Doubt everything I say, doubt everything Leo says, Doubt even your own self and ONLY TRUST DIRECT EXPERIENCE!! The only TRUE KNOWLEDGE you have in your possession is that which you have DIRECTLY VERIFIED. This is the key to not being deluded. If you have not directly verified something then you are IGNORANT BY DEFAULT and can only know it as a human imaginary concept. Human imaginary concept IS NOT TRUTH! So do not lie to yourself, if you haven't experienced something YOU DO NOT KNOW IT!!! Understand....God is the ABSOLUTE TRUTH. God only adds to its understanding through EXPERIENCE!! Experience is the ONLY THING THAT IS TRUTH!!! This is the only way you can protect yourself from being lost in Self-Deception. . One thing you will discover if you do enough research is that each part of God experiences Reality differently but this includes God Realization. Yes Pure Consciousness is Nothingness so yes that part is universal, but it is also everything and that everythingness how it chooses to express itself is unique to the individual avatar. So you will ask...how do I know I reached what Leo is talking about? Well first and foremost the most important thing is to understand what was stated above, This video reinforces it. Now Leo had a quote in one of his videos where he said your sense of self will spill out into the surrounding area and everything will feel like you. So what does this mean? When you become aware of what PURE AWARENESS is (which is a feeling) you will become aware....that EVERYTHING is awareness. When this happens everything will feel as YOUR BODY. The wall, the insect, people, leaves, the veil of separation that people refer to....it actually isn't a veil....its subtlety. It was always there....but its so soft....so barely felt that you don't actually feel it. The true purpose of meditating is to make that subtlety NOT SUBTLE. When you do this....your mind will become UNIVERSAL and you will feel like you are IN everything. It really creates a whole new experiential world....and this is where you can start to feel alone...as your experience can change so drastically that nobody you know or listen to has that kind of wacky experience of reality. For example I don't watch cartoons...I AM CARTOONS THAT is how I experience them. I don't play video games...I AM THE VIDEO GAME. I'm not trying to brag here because I realize this is all possible for other humans. With that said....the process can and will probably be MESSY (it was for me) because my body had to CHANGE!!! My brain and neurons were changed and it was not always comfortable. This pursuit actually sent me to the psyche ward a couple of times because my brain started doing weird things. Anyway just know this path is not always straightforward. For example I once temporarily lost the ability to hear it corrected itself after like two minutes but it did scare me and I had to trust everything will pan out. The other scare I had was during the process of my reality becoming aware of its oneness I felt temporarily I had two bodies in one body (that felt extremely uncomfortable) when I would look at someone thankfully it corrected it after a couple of seconds where I was able to feel I was them but also my individual self at the same time. So weirdness can happen. 4. What I disagree with Leo on: Leo has stated his belief that genetics plays a big role in barring people from God Realization. This is where I disagree. God Realization is free for everyone if they TRULY WANT IT!! You have to want it so bad, that everything becomes inconsequential in comparison....even your own life as a human. You really do have to overcome fear of Death to reach God. I know its a tall task, but that is the only thing that TRULY stops you. With that said...yes your genetics do play a role. Some people are really Spiritually Super Human, but what I have learned through my communion with God.....and yes I know it sounds sappy but Love really does conquer all. If you have TRUE LOVE for your pursuit of the Infinite...it will take you and annihilate your conditioned mind. Because it is PURE LOVE, PURE TRUTH, and it loves you more than your human love could ever hope to compare too. It's actually quite funny when you discover TRUE LOVE within you, because it feels familiar like it was there the whole time....because....it was. The gift of true love is behind the passion of every Spiritual Teacher/Sharer. True Love is so beautiful....you realize all you want to do is share it and talk about it for eternity. It's grasp is so strong....you can't escape....which is why it makes sense why God has to hide from itself to create anything....because God is to good to be true....but it is....so it can only be something other if it deludes itself. I hope you discover you are TRUE LOVE!!!

Thanks for your Sincerity

What I love about God Realization is it opens up your mind to TRUE SELF UNDERSTANDING. I mean you REALLY start to understand why cultures think the way they do. I'm not talking at the level of concept, but through the level of EXPERIENCE. You can only truly understand someone through GOD. All conditioned minds will never truly understand someone or something, TRUE UNDERSTANDING= TRUE LOVE. Picture if you could walk into a room of criminals....and completely understand why they think the way they think not as a concept....but as an experience!!! That's when you become what is called in the "Hood" a REAL ONE not a poser or faker. When I was shown this it made me laugh....God actually created the HOOD, RAP/HIP HOP etc. I'm black so I guess God was tapping into that part of me. I had an experience of God's divinity while watching MC Hammer's Can't Touch This because I became aware of the Infinite Intelligence and Creativity of that Old School Rap Song. LOL. It's hilarious how I don't see anyone talking about this. God Realization creates TRUE APPRECIATION for art beyond regular human understanding. Only people who don't try to box Spirituality into some type of culture can understand and have true appreciation but paradoxically judging them for doing so will block you from TRULY UNDERSTANDING them and why they do it. So basically keep an open mind to understand the genius of God's play here. Cause we are just God dreaming all of reality Artistically.

If you take the substance too or have an OBE....you can experience the Salvia trip as him.

Leo is people's dream character doing exactly that. I won't lie when I became Conscious of this I was like they should turn it into a Movie. Cause it's the funniest thing ever!!

The best way to understand Solipsism would be to look at life like a MMORPG. When you play a MMORPG your experience is completely Solipsistic as the Game itself. So the MMORPG we'll call it the Game of Life and shorten the name to Life for this example. So Life which is being played by infinite avatars each have their own perspectives....but notice each of them are in a Solipsistic bubble which we can call their AREA. This AREA is limited by how far they can SEE in each direction. This LIFE is a UNIVERSE and because it can only be ONE since it is NOTHING, not physical, each iteration of itself is both the WHOLE and the PART. I once left my body in a violent kundalini reaction and went straight to the Godhead....and...I was all alone there. I also have had a sober and non sober awakening that I am the Universe living through this human. But what's even funny is God is BEYOND the Universe in a sense because its not BOUND to it so it can destroy the entire Universe. Now this always mean you are alone with your SELF. So yes you are alone, but you are alone with yourself. In my analogy of the game of life, everything in that game is really the same SELF, because they are all the same part of the same thing. So what the game does to experience "other" is it creates it through illusion. It creates infinite solipsistic bubbles that are equally it, and it gives them infinite diversity so it can experience itself as different. Thus Infinity of Gods and Solo Infinite God are equally identical. Multiplicity, and Singular are thus equally the same thing. So you as God can choose to be a Singularity that experiences everything/multiplicity as a singularity, or you can choose to delude yourself of your Singularity and experience yourself ignorant of your Singularity and focus on the multiplicity. What I have noticed is the human psyche seems to be averse to the Singularity, I do not think its a bug but a feature. The human is designed to ignore the Singularity and to Mature into its love for it over time. The more one can embrace the Singularity the more Mature that human is because the key to being Selfless as a human is to accept that you are the Multiplicity so deeply that you become the Singularity.

Until you become Conscious of Nothingness you won't understand.

Bless you! You noticed it!!! It mostly happens in the Spirituality section. It gave me what I call posting fatigue. Even funnier its usually the same people and they are the FIRST to post on any thread I find. But here is even the biggest kicker. How would you feel if you discovered something, it was so amazing and life changing and valuable to you and you couldn't WAIT to share it...and then everytime you do you attract negative responses telling you that your missing something? It blows your mind because you know what you are sharing is TRUE because it has added MASSIVE value to your life....but NOOOO let's jump in your thread and derail it!!!! It's like if you won the lottery and wanted to give me the winning numbers and I and a bunch of people argue that it's impossible....you know how frustrating that is? Like you want everyone to win the Lottery but noooo you must keep those winnings to yourself. It's the funniest thing man, blows my mind!!! But hey...it is what it is I always say. Anytime something crazy happens I say it happened because Reality is INFINITE, so it must contradict itself. But anyway I don't wanna turn this into a Spirituality thread. How has your relationships been? And is that dog YOUR dog in real life?

There are stages to love. Stage 1: Lust/Desire: This is the attraction stage, you see something and you desire to obtain it. Stage 2: Intellectual Love/Rational Love: You can list all the reasons you love a thing and it makes logical sense how it fits into your life and why you value it. Stage 3: Existential Love: This is TRUE LOVE. It says I love you cause you exist. My only desire is to be with you. I don't want nothing material from you because your being is the greatest gift, it is what the PRESENT is all about. I love you so much that I'm willing to let you go because your freedom is my highest desire for you. True Love is God....want to find the greatest gift? Develop True Love....and you will exude it where ever you go.

You are that which I do daily, sometimes I can snatch something novel, other times I feel lost in some circular never ending hovel, you repeat yourself in unique ways, constantly looking to reinforce okays, when the real challenge is dropping the past and focusing on todays, I don't want the spiral to trap how I see, I wiggle constantly to break free, endeavoring constantly to create a new me, yet I cannot escape that pull for long, some how this remixed tune is the same song, who knew creativity could be a black hole, that its riches must be fought in the cold, I realize I'm just a wellspring of experience to mold, constantly trying and searching for my contribution to the fold, this path shall be eternal, toiling in my little kernal, but true action, where fore will it come? When intuition, applauding past efforts, believes contemplating is done, how does it know? It knows not the time of its arrival, but it knows not to be a repeat patterned revival, it knows when thought processes must seppuku, and create the finish line to walk through, such is the adventure of the contemplative creator, always checking on how to ascend greater.

You petty, arrogance, too many fights too count, raised voices, too many times we shout, it seems it was inevitable, two worlds collide, we never truly connected not fully inside, True Love is just agreement, acceptance, and support, we were two ships, never found the docks to port, the crumbling, the small tearing down, became large vibrations sounding off surround sound, this misery is palpable, it shouldn't be allowed to last, this was a failed love feast and we need a fast, cause the loss of respect is symbolized in the thrown broken glass, I guess for us we failed and we couldn't do it with class, cause your animosity so strong, you think 911 is wrong, if I need your help in an emergency your response is too long, I'm not worth the effort, we were always a lost cause, For you I would have broke universal laws, but now I pause, because I'm finally free of you no longer behind bars. You only ever had time to fuck, that's why this is a break up.

Somehow this thread devolved into some Non-Duality discussion. Notice I didn't post this in the Spirituality discussion even though I could have. The first two stages are relativistic, the last stage is not. The point is to BECOME LOVE, by realizing you ARE LOVE. The first and most consistent relationship you have is your human self. Can you love the human self that you are unconditionally? If you can you have discovered TRUE LOVE. After that you can exude or spread that love wherever you go. The only task you have if you want to live the good life and have healthy relationships is to become TRUE LOVE. As I always say everything starts with YOU....it also ends with YOU.

Paradoxically since your Mom is God....she did create you.

Jesus=Flowerfaeiry. If you go deep enough you will realize YOU ARE JESUS.

I don't know how anyone is meditating to this..... The only thing I've found that can produce these results is OBEs and I'm not talking astral projection I'm talking a controlled NDE. Unless fear of death is faced I really have no clue what a person is doing. To go infinite the finite gotta be surrendered. P.S. Psychedelics are really this radical and beyond, you have no idea how non normal Reality can reveal itself to be.

I told you, you have all the answers right there. Great post!!

There is nothing wrong with adoring celebrities, just don't assume what they show you is the real them, realize they are people just like everybody else, and realize in most cases you may not really adore the person that they really are but most likely their incredible talent, their image, and the way they carry themselves. Adoring celebrities is not idol worship, but it can devolve into it if your not careful. With that said, the whole social engine/machinery around celebrity oozes with corruption which is why most celebrities can burnout and why some become corrupt themselves.

So happy for you!!! Cheers!!! Empowered living is a beautiful thing.

Dude people like you are too hard on yourselves, if you are spending time contemplating this I seriously doubt you are struggling in the empathetic department. Please don't become one of those nice people who spend time trying to find a way to demonize themselves. If you want to understand the magic of Solipsism its this......how do you want to be treated? Obviously you want to be treated with respect, so treat everyone with respect. If you were in a dire situation and needed help you'd want help, so if an opportunity arises where you could help someone...help them. If you hurt someone unintentionally you would want forgiveness, so forgive those that hurt you. Solipsism is the highest love, because you are communicating with yourself!!!! What can be more beautiful than that? It's so amazing!!!!

You are a nice guy, you used your 4th post to cheer someone else. That's a swell thing to do.

I remember you, it's been awhile since we last heard from you so welcome back!! I'll watch your video after this post. But I remember when you first posted about Maple. What made a clearly intelligent caring person such as yourself want to join Maple? What exactly were you looking for?

Well Leo....I don't know about that point system you got...it doesn't seem to have an arbitration process and as a result can be suspect to abuse. In that sense its kind of culty, also there is way too much group think on these forums, not enough members thinking for themselves and latching on too much to how you express yourself. I do think you changing your signature from you are Leo to you are God was wise as you realized and pointed out that some people were erroneously creating a parsimonious relationship with you. With all that said, no Actualized.org is not a cult, but it definitely has some culty vibes. I wonder if this is endemic to human social groups.