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Lunatic replied to Lunatic's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
“As your consciousness grows even deeper, the difference between things starts to collapse. …” (…, “Reading A Poetic Description Of God-Consciousness”, 33 min., 30 sec., 17 August 2022, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8AXWd6DFzU) Levenson 1993, _Keys to the Ultimate Freedom: Thoughts and Talks on Personal Transformation_, 244–245, 309–310, https://archive.org/details/keys-to-the-ultimate-freedom-thoughts-and-talks-on-personal-transformation-leste. See https://www.actualized.org/forum/topic/8019-the-5-meo-dmt-mega-thread/?do=findComment&comment=76323. -
Lunatic replied to Terell Kirby's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
“§ 1. Before my self-awakening, …” 19 March 2026, https://www.dhammatalks.org/books/Wings/Section0008.html. ““And this, monks, is the noble truth of the way of practice leading to the cessation of stress: precisely this noble eightfold path—right view, right resolve, right speech, right action, right livelihood, right effort, right mindfulness, right concentration.4” (SN 56:11) “THE JHĀNAS are eight altered states of consciousness, brought on via concentration, and each yielding a deeper state of concentration than the previous. In teaching the eightfold path, the Buddha defined right concentration to be the jhānas. The jhānas themselves are not awakening, but they are a skillful means for concentrating the mind in a way that leads in that direction, and they are attainable not only by monastics, but also by many serious lay practitioners.” (Brasington 2015, Preface) “Waking up is a difficult task. It’s probably more difficult than cutting a wooden table in two with a dull butter knife. If you really wanted to cut a table in two with a butter knife, you could probably do it. If you pressed really hard, you could make a little dent in it right away. If you kept working and pressing, you could cut that table in two with that dull butter knife. But it would be really hard work and would take a very long time. However, if you were to get a whetstone and put an edge on that butter knife, sharpening it up, then you could cut a lot faster. You would quickly make up all the time you “wasted” putting an edge on the knife. Of course, after a while the edge would become dull, and you’d have to sharpen it again to keep cutting. Undoubtedly you could cut that table in two a lot faster with a sharp butter knife than with a dull butter knife. The purpose of the jhānas is to sharpen your mind, so that when you look to see what’s really happening, you have penetrating insight into it.” (Brasington 2015, chap. 8) “During the meditations Byron Katie moved deeply into her “awake” experience, so deep, in fact, that she lost touch with the sensory world. One day during the meditation an automobile crashed into something on the street in front of the halfway house. People jumped up and ran to the windows but Byron Katie sat there, still in meditation, completely oblivious to the noise, the commotion. “Then when they directed me to come out, I came out. They were all talking about the automobile accident. But I had done what they told me and I trusted in that. I was in meditation. I was just following directions.” Byron says that during the meditations she left and came back with knowledge that she calls revelations. … “For three years the revelations were nonstop,” Byron explains now. “I would literally take them to the streets and try to tell people, but it scared them and so they moved away from me. Really, the revelations couldn’t be put into words. That was where I was doing harm, by trying to put them into words. Once in words they narrow down to very simple things like _unknowing is everything; no time, no space; there is only Love; I am Love._”” (Weber 1996, _A Cry in the Desert: The Awakening of Byron Katie_, 26–27) “Without concentrated mind, progress is relatively small.” (Levenson 1993, chap. 10) “With mastery of the fourth jhāna, three other modes of practice become available. We’ll just mention them here briefly.” “Recollecting “past lives.”^20^” (Culadasa 2015, Appendix D: The Jhānas) Cf. 5-MeO-DMT and other psychedelics. “The evolution of souls involves a transition from …” (https://mega.nz/file/EwQBASQC#uclk5SXynVaNedy8Np5PuEpOOhSkwOJsVl4pK3wA_YM) See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Journey_of_Souls_(book). Seretan 2008, Is everything preordained.doc. “Karma and reincarnation are part of the illusion and have no part in the Reality. Past lives should not be gone into as it is playing with the unreality, making it seem more real.” (Levenson 1993, 266) Weber 1996, _A Cry in the Desert: The Awakening of Byron Katie_, 26–27.pdf Is everything preordained .doc -
Lunatic replied to Terell Kirby's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Yes. The thought, e.g., “I am angry at Paul because he lied to me.” is brought to inquiry as “Paul lied to me,” “Paul shouldn't lie to me,” “I don't want Paul to lie to me,” etc. (“Isolating One-liners to Take to Inquiry”, https://thework.com/part-three/) “I don't want Paul to lie to me.” _Is it true that I don't want Paul to lie to me (= Is it true that I have a desire for Paul not to lie to me)?_ “Once you see the truth, the thought lets go of _you_, not the other way around.” (Katie and Mitchell 2021, 152) So the desire for Paul not to lie to you metaphorically lets go of you. Then you move to the next stressful thought. Last, as Lester Levenson puts it, you let go of the desire to wake up. In other words, concurrent desires exist, and you let go of the unskillful ones. The skillful desire is wanting to end stress and the unskillful one is wanting Paul not to lie to you. @@@ “Anyone who’s seeking happiness is seeking the Self. There are two kinds of people in the world: those who are consciously seeking God, happiness, the Self, and those who are unconsciously seeking them.” (Levenson 1993, chap. 45, 343) So you consciously seek God by letting go of those desires that lead away from God. -
Lunatic replied to Terell Kirby's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
“In April of this year, members of Le Refuge, a Buddhist group located near Marseilles, invited me to lead a ten-day retreat on the topic of the skillful use of desire on the path of Buddhist practice. This is a topic around which there is a great deal of confusion, so I thought it would be a useful theme for the retreat. Because the Buddha identified three types of craving as the origin of suffering and stress, many people have jumped to the conclusion that he condemned all forms of desire. However, he actually taught that skillful desires—aimed at abandoning the causes of suffering and developing mental qualities conducive to the end of suffering—play a crucial role in the path to the ultimate happiness of nibbāna, or unbinding. In fact, the desire to put an end to suffering plays such a dominant role in guiding the path that all the Buddha’s other teachings, including his teachings about the self and the world, are designed to serve that desire and to achieve its aim: a happiness so great that it puts an end to the need for desires of any kind.” “Desires for the End of Desire”, 18 March 2026, https://www.dhammatalks.org/books/DesiresForEndOfDesire/Section0003.html. I have not read the book. “And, in the end, you have to get rid of your desire for God. Then you are It!” (Levenson 1993, 113) -
Lunatic replied to Terell Kirby's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Breakingthewall I was saying that calling sb or sth bad is a matter of expediency. Apparently, there are shortcuts, “In the Canon it is stated that …” (…, Vedanā, 18 March 2026 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vedan%C4%81#Wisdom_practices) “It's possible to open your mind to enlightenment while still having attachment and desire;” @Breakingthewall Desire is not a good thing because it leads away from your Self. Unless you desire the end of desire. I think that desire and undesire are disenjoyment (= anger, sadness, etc.). See https://www.actualized.org/forum/topic/113514-a-cognitive-behavioural-interpretation-of-the-four-noble-truths/. “Usually pleasure is a subtle form of discomfort, because even as you’re enjoying sex or food, for example, you cling to your enjoyment; you want it to last, you want more of it, or you’re afraid of losing it even as it’s happening.” (Katie and Mitchell 2017, chap. 73) “Even the happy thoughts make us unhappy. Because if we're going to enjoy something then we're concerned about the possibility of maintaining this, which we know it's not going to last. So the thought of the pleasure at the same time invokes the experience of that it's not going to last. So even thoughts of happiness are limited.” (Levenson 1993) “You must get rid of all desire. You can enjoy without desire. In fact, if you really want to enjoy things, you can enjoy far more without desire.” (Levenson 1993) “Get rid of desires. Completely rid of desires and you're totally free. Then you'll see yourself as every atom in the universe. And the slightest thought you put in your mind instantaneously comes about. Don't you see a desire saying, I don't have something and making it so. A desire is a very negative thing. Now when you're desireless, if you choose to enjoy something, you enjoy it a thousand times more than you did before when you had a desire for it. Because you're free. You enjoy with freedom. Whereas before you were enjoying with a feeling of lack. Does that make sense?” (“Lester Levenson, Hale Dwoskin -…”, 982) @@@ “That's why I say it's all a big joke when we see the truth. We make such tremendous efforts to go after that which we are. …” (“Lester Levenson, … Sedona Method (2024)”, 50) “What do you think you would have?” (Katie and Mitchell 2021, 148; Katie and Jensen 2000, 80; Keyes 1992, 104–116) “Isn’t that why you want to save the world in the first place? So that you can be happy? Well, skip the middleman, and be happy from here! You’re it. You’re the one.” (Katie and Mitchell 2007, chap. 29, 82) _Isn't that why you want sex or food in the first place? So that you can be happy?_ “All of my desire for my entire life has just been desire of my own self. …. So in a sense all of your desire is really, is a perversion of the desire for God.” …, (“Outrageous Experiments In Consciousness - 30 Awakenings In 30 Days”, 19 April 2020, 47 min., 20 sec., https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnn0IU0-atg; statement number 2 on the Worksheet) -
Lunatic replied to Lunatic's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
“Self (God) is Infinite, Limitless; One, Indivisible; Perfect; Changeless, Immutable; Timeless, Without Beginning or End; Whole, The All; Omniscient, Omnipotent, Omnipresent.” (Lester 1962, 65, https://archive.org/details/franklesterlesterlevensontheeternalverities2) I am saying that nirvana (Buddha's) and God as used by Lester Levenson, Leo Gura and Byron Katie refer to the same thing. (Likely.) That, likely, refers to sth else. -
Lunatic replied to Lunatic's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Someone here In that list of synonyms I am using God as a headword. The Buddha talked about nirvana, specifically. “This is called the Noble Truth of the Cessation of _dukkha_ (_Dukkhanirodhaariyasacca_), which is _Nibbāna_, more popularly known in its Sanskrit form of _Nirvāṇa_. (Rahula 1978, chap. 4, 35, https://archive.org/details/RdZW_what-the-buddha-taught-by-walpola-rahula-british-library-cataloguing)” “Both formerly & now, it’s only stress that I describe, and the cessation of stress” (SN 22:86; MN 22) _Both formerly & now, it’s only stress that I describe, and nirvana._ (Rahula 1978, chap. 4, 36)” “_I don’t like (I am angry at, or saddened, frightened, confused, etc., by) (name) because (why/reason =)…_.” (Katie and Mitchell 2021, 22) _I hate (= “to dislike somebody/something very much”) Paul because …._ See https://www.actualized.org/forum/topic/113610-trump-is-god/?do=findComment&comment=1749981. “It's a process of dropping your hate.” (“Lester Levenson, … Sedona Method (2024)”, 213) “Reality is a race, consciousness is a race towards who can love (= “like or enjoy very much”) who more. That's what it is when you're completely selfless. … Everything you're doing in your life you might as well be collecting shoelaces or bottle caps that's that's how insignificant it is compared to the only thing you should be doing which is practicing love.” (…, “Outrageous Experiments In Consciousness - 30 Awakenings In 30 Days”, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnn0IU0-atg, 1 hr., 1 min., 55 sec.) “Are you willing to love the Holocaust?” (1 hr., 9 min., 10 sec.) _Are you willing to love Paul?_ “If you were able to love as much as God what would happen is that this duality would completely merge and you would literally become God so the only thing separating you from God is simply your capacity to love which is just a function of how selfless you are” (…, “Outrageous Experiments In Consciousness - 30 Awakenings In 30 Days”, 19 April 2020, 1 hr., 41 min., 10 sec., https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnn0IU0-atg) “The top state is total selflessness. How much are we selfless? If we're at the top, we're totally selfless.” (“Lester Levenson, Hale Dwoskin - Lester Levenson (Sedona Method) Magnum Opus PDF-Lester Levenson _ Sedona Method (2024)”, 969) “When they criticize you and you notice that you love them with all your heart, your work is done.” (https://thework.com/2015/09/when-they-criticize-2/) -
Lunatic replied to Lunatic's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
- “empty white transparent void”, “there is like a empty white transparent void right where your face you used to imagine was” (…, “Guided Exercise For Realizing You Are God”, 29 November 2020, 57 min., 45 sec., https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdWxdhEB19s) “The sotāpanna has had their first glimpse of the unconditioned[jargon] element, the asankhata,[citation needed] in which they see the goal, in the moment of the fruition of their path[clarification needed] (magga-phala). Whereas the stream-entrant has seen nibbāna and therefore has verified confidence in it, the arahant[13] can drink fully of its waters, to use a simile from the Kosambi Sutta (SN 12.68) of a "well" encountered along a desert road.[14]” Sotāpanna, 17 March 2026, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sotāpanna. -
“When discussing the noble eightfold path, the Buddha focused most often on the fact that following it leads to the end of suffering. This point is so important in his teachings that he twice stated, “Both formerly & now, it’s only stress that I describe, and the cessation of stress” (SN 22:86; MN 22). Any question that interfered with this aim, he would put aside.” DeGraff, On the Path: An Anthology on the Noble Eightfold Path drawn from the Pāli Canon, OnThePath210213.pdf, 21. An awkward paraphrasis would be, _Both formerly & now, it’s only not goodness that I describe, and the cessation of not goodness (= resumption/bringing about of goodness; ultimately nirvana/God)._ See https://www.actualized.org/forum/topic/113610-trump-is-god/?do=findComment&comment=1749981. _God (n., sense 2)_ - “The Being” (Blanton 1996, 1) - “Soul”, “Soul is the real Self,—Infinite, All-Knowing, All-Powerful, Everywhere Present. Mind is a tool of Soul, used as an instrument to create and reflect the physical universe. Body is the creation of mind.” (Lester 1962, 67) - “The Self”, “The Self (God)” (Lester 1962, 13) ~~- “Love”, “Love is your Self.” (Levenson 1993, 49)~~ “love”, “When I refer to love, I’m merely pointing to the unidentified, awakened mind. …” (Katie and Mitchell 2017, 78–79) - “_“Our real nature, the infinite real self that we are, is simply us minus the mind.”_” (Levenson 1993, 51) - “awareness all alone” (Spira 2022, 49) ~~- “Beingness”~~ - “ultimately what is real” (Katie and Mitchell 2007, 42) - “awareness or consciousness”, “final state”, “changeless state”, “ultimate Truth” (Levenson 1993, 81) - “the pure unknown: love” (Katie and Mitchell 2017, chap. 24, 215) - “love”, “the quietest of all things”, “Love itself is not an emotion. It's a very, it's the quietest of all things.” (“Lester Levenson, … Sedona Method (2024)”) - “nothing”, “a completely silent mind” (Katie and Mitchell 2007, 246), (Katie and Mitchell 2017, 235) “Awareness knows nothing, and therefore it’s hidden to itself.” (Katie and Mitchell 2017, 235) “All you can do is be it.” (Katie and Katz 2005, 246) “You say, “I want to know myself.” You _are_ the “I.” You _are_ the Knowing. You _are_ the consciousness through which everything is known. And that cannot _know_ itself; it _is_ itself.” (Tolle 2003, 55–56) - “[t]he consciousness of the Isness”, “death”, “The consciousness of the Isness, the same as death, comes through.” (Weber 1996, 148) ~~- “perfection”, “Perfection is another name for reality.” (Katie and Mitchell 2007, chap. 45)~~ - “[t]he all-quiet state”, “ecstasy”, “euphoria”, “bliss”, “nirvana”, “The all-quiet state is such a tremendous state, that it can never be put into words. The words ecstasy, euphoria, bliss, nirvana don’t describe it really — they only allude to it.” (Levenson 1993, 279) - “the unbent”, “the effluent-free”, “the true”, “the beyond”, “the subtle”, “the very-hard-to-see”, “the ageless”, “the permanence”, “the undecaying”, “the surfaceless”, “non-objectification”, “peace”, “the deathless”, “the exquisite”, “bliss”, “rest”, “the ending of craving”, “the amazing”, “the astounding”, “the secure”, “security”, “unbinding”, “the unafflicted”, “dispassion”, “purity”, “release”, “the attachment-free”, “the island”, “shelter”, “the harbor”, “refuge”, “ the ultimate”. (…, 1 October 2025, https://www.dhammatalks.org/suttas/SN/SN43.html, https://archive.ph/Rw3Yy, https://suttacentral.net/sn43.14-43/en/sujato?lang=en&layout=plain&reference=none¬es=asterisk&highlight=false&script=latin) “There are 32 synonyms for Nibbana in the _Asaṃkhata-saṃyutta_ of the _Saṃyutta-nikāya_. They are mostly metaphorical.” (Rahula 1978, 36) - “the screen” (Spira 2022, 43) - “Space”, “silence”, “Space and silence are two aspects of the same thing, the same nothing. They are an externalization of inner space and inner silence, which is stillness: the infinitely creative womb of all existence.” (Tolle 1999, 115; 112–115) - “darkness”, “The dark, the nameless, the unthinkable” (Katie and Mitchell 2007, chap. 1) - ________ PDFsam_merge_16_pt_29_November_2025.pdf, 95–96.
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Lunatic replied to Terell Kirby's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
“A term used to indicate the intrinsic goodness or badness of an object, event, or emotion. A positive valence is good and thus desirable, a negative valence is bad and therefore something we seek to avoid.” 7 March 2026, https://www.oxfordreference.com/view/10.1093/acref/9780191843273.001.0001/acref-9780191843273-e-308. ““Now this, monks, is the noble truth of stress1 (= dukkha): Birth is stressful, aging is stressful, death is stressful; sorrow, lamentation, pain, distress, & despair are stressful; association with the unbeloved is stressful, separation from the loved is stressful, not getting what is wanted is stressful. In short, the five clinging-aggregates are stressful.2” (SN 56:11) _Now this, monks, is the noble truth of badness: Birth is bad, aging is bad, …_. (Buddha's and your bad.) (“If you need a right (_Oxford Thesaurus of English (3 ed.)_, good (adj.), “__virtuous__”, sense 2, “__convenient__”, “__opportune__”, sense 10, p. 379–380) and wrong (_Oxford Thesaurus of English (3 ed.)_, bad (adj.), sense 3, “__wicked__”, sense 6, “__inauspicious__”, p. 61), doing that which helps your growth (= reason; it leads to your Self, the end of stress) is right; doing that which hinders your growth is wrong.” (Lester 1993, chap. 33) _If you need a good and bad …._ (= Buddha's.)) “It places the judgment of good on those things we like and bad on those things we dislike.” (Bolte Taylor 2008, 59) ““And this, monks, is the noble truth of the origination of stress: the craving (= taṇhā; “Craving or excessive or inappropriate desire”; dislike) …” (SN 56:11) ““And this, monks, is the noble truth of the cessation of stress: the remainderless fading & cessation, renunciation, relinquishment, release, & letting go of that very craving.” (SN 56:11) (“Once you see the truth, the thought (= “I want that corn chip” (= I have a desire for that corn chip)) lets go of _you_, not the other way around.” (Katie and Mitchell 2021, 152) “A corn chip is a metaphor for that that you really want (= nirvana/God/your Self).” “When you don’t prefer any of that, then there’s no corn chip. I mean they could be all over the place, and you would never see one.” (Katie 1998, chap. 1, 3) “And, in the end, you have to get rid of your desire for God. Then you are It!” (Levenson 1993, 113)) (This is called the Noble Truth of the Cessation of _dukkha_ (_Dukkhanirodhaariyasacca_), which is _Nibbāna_ (= God (sense 2, PDFsam_merge_16_pt_29_November_2025.pdf, 95–96)), more popularly known in its Sanskrit form of _Nirvāṇa_. (Rahula 1978, chap. 4, 35)) “God and good are sometimes used synonymously. … God is above good and bad. However, good leads us to God.” (Levenson 1993, 345) “So-called universal truths fall away too. There aren’t any of those either. The last truth—I call it the last story—is “God is everything; God is good.”” (Katie and Mitchell 2017, chap. 6, 64–65) “But praise is more like our true nature;” (Katie and Mitchell 2017, chap. 16, 153) “Meeting people with understanding feels more like you.” (Katie and Mitchell 2017, chap. 16, 154) “The perfection (= the perfection of nirvana) is inconceivable,” (Weber 1996, 148) Desire or undesire, hate, badness/stress (?= “the five clinging-aggregates”); neither desire nor undesire, love (= “like or enjoy very much”), goodness/cessation of stress (= nirvana). See https://www.actualized.org/forum/topic/113514-a-cognitive-behavioural-interpretation-of-the-four-noble-truths. -
Lunatic replied to Lunatic's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
“I add to that list, “not desirous of”, so _I don’t like (I am angry at, or saddened, frightened, confused, not desirous of, etc., by) (name) because …_.” Probably I should not add desire to that list. Indeed … _I am afraid of Paul because …._ (“Fear is a desire not to have something happen (= event/situation).” (“Lester Levenson, Hale Dwoskin -…”, 60)) I am not desirous of (= undesirous of; aversive _to_) Paul because (event/situation =) …. (““It should be borne in mind, however, that such paraphrases” are not idiomatic. Much less, “I am not desirous of (I am angry at, or saddened, frightened, confused, etc., by) (name) because ….””) Anger is, “The desire to strike out to hurt and stop the other one, but with hesitation. We might or might not strike out.” (The abundance course - Crane, Lawrence;Levenson, Lester, 1909-.pdf”, https://archive.org/details/abundancecourse00cran, 21) Sadness is … … Statement number 1 on the Judge-Your-Neighbor Worksheet. A list of alternatives. - __I don't like … because ….__ (Katie and Mitchell 2021, 22) - __I complain about … because ….__ (“Byron Katie's The Work One-Two-Three”, 15 March 2026, https://thework.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/The-Work-of-Byron-Katie-Worksheet-Packet-v20251103.pdf) “Complain” sounds disapproving to me for the person who uses it and it does not express a feeling unlike, say, “upset or unhappy.” (“[_disapproval_]” (, complainer (adj.), 15 March 2026, https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/complainer)) - __I am upset or unhappy with (sb/sth =) … because ….__ (“In the Living Love System, an addiction is any desire that makes you upset or unhappy if it is not satisfied.” (Keyes 1975, 12) “… although increasingly people use the word happiness to refer to their overall sense of well-being or evaluation of their lives rather than a particular enjoyment emotion.” (…, 15 March 2026, https://www.paulekman.com/universal-emotions/what-is-enjoyment/) On the other hand, “unhappy” is used to refer to sad or dissatisfied. (_Oxford Advanced Learner's Dictionary_)) “unhappy or disappointed because of something unpleasant that has happened” (…, upset (adj.), sense 1, 15 March 2026, https://www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/definition/english/upset_1) - __I hate__ (= “to dislike somebody/something very much” (_Oxford Advanced Learner's Dictionary_)) __… because ….__ (“And by hate I mean anything that's not love. Love (?), fear, envy, jealousy, apathy, all those attitudes are different degrees of hate. At least the way I use it, they are.” (“Lester Levenson, Hale Dwoskin -…”, 629) “And that all feelings relative to love are negative and cut off our capacity to love.” (~, 38)) - __I feel bad about/for … because ….__ - __I am not desirous of__ (= undesirous of; aversive _to_) __Paul because ….__ I feel bad (= “__guilty__, conscience-stricken, remorseful, guilt-ridden, ashamed,” etc. ) _about/for_ … because …. “PREP. __about__” https://www.freecollocation.com/search?word=bad; _Oxford Collocations Dictionary for students of English (2 ed.)_, bad (adj.), sense 3, “guilty/sorry”, p. 53. 15 March 2026, https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=feel+bad+*_ADP&year_start=1800&year_end=2022&corpus=en&smoothing=3. “__feel bad__ to feel guilty or sorry about something” …, bad (adj.), sense 12, “guilty/sorry”, 15 March 2026, https://www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/definition/english/bad_1. “regretful, guilty, or ashamed about something” _Oxford Dictionary of English (3 ed.)_, bad (adj.), sense 6, 15 March 2026, https://www.oxfordreference.com/view/10.1093/acref/9780199571123.001.0001/m_en_gb0055370. _colloquial_ (originally U.S.). Troubled, unhappy; in low spirits; contrite, remorseful. Esp. in __to feel bad__: to be embarrassed or unhappy (_about_ a situation, etc.). Cf. _to feel good_ at __good__ _adj._ A.I.6a.iv. _Oxford English Dictionary_, “bad (adj.), sense III.11,” December 2025, https://doi.org/10.1093/OED/9210610335. “__guilty__, conscience-stricken, remorseful, guilt-ridden, ashamed, chastened, contrite, sorry, full of regret, regretful, repentant, penitent, shamefaced, self-reproachful, apologetic.” _Oxford Thesaurus of English (3 ed.)_, bad (adj.), sense 11, “__guilty__”, “__ANTONYMS__ unrepentant”, p. 61) https://www.ldoceonline.com/dictionary/feel-bad -
Lunatic replied to Terell Kirby's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Leo Gura “Trump was bred to be the devil that he is.” 14 March 2026, https://actualized.org/insights/the-devils-breeding-program. “Good things, bad things; good people, bad people. These opposites are valid only by contrast. Could it be that whatever seems bad to you is just something you haven’t seen clearly enough yet? In reality—as it is in itself—every thing, every person, lies far beyond your capacity to judge.” (Katie and Mitchell 2007, 8) (“§ 12. These four imponderables are not to be speculated about. Whoever speculates about them would go mad & experience vexation. Which four? […] The results of kamma (= “lies far beyond your capacity to judge”) ….” (DeGraff wings210213.pdf, 93; https://www.dhammatalks.org/suttas/AN/AN4_77.html, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_unanswerable_questions) E.g., “If you are an action-based thinker, and your principles prohibit killing innocent people, you would not shoot. This may create a tragic situation, but not an ethical dilemma. If you are a consequentialist, the situation becomes much more complex.” (Howard and Korver 2008, 40) See PDFsam_merge_16_pt_29_November_2025.pdf, 58–59.) “A mind that doesn’t question its judgments makes the world very small and dangerous. It must continue to fill the world with bad things and bad people, and in doing so it creates its own suffering.” (Katie and Mitchell 2007, chap. 2, 8) “When you do The Work, you see who you are by seeing who you think other people are. Eventually you come to see that everything outside you is a reflection of your own thinking. You are the storyteller, the projector of all stories, and the world is the projected image of your thoughts.” (Katie and Mitchell 2021, chap. 1, 13) “The power of the turnaround lies in the discovery that everything you think you see on the outside is really a projection of your own mind. Everything is a mirror image of your own thinking.” (Katie and Mitchell 2021, chap. 5, 156–157) “The whole world is projected.” (Katie and Mitchell 2007, chap. 1, 4) “If there’s anything that I see in you that annoys me, it’s because I have it in me. If I didn’t have it in me, I couldn’t even see it in you.” (Levenson 1993, 236) “The world you see is a reflection of how you see it. If your world is ugly or unfair, it’s because you haven’t questioned the thoughts that are making it appear that way. As your mind becomes clearer and kinder, your world becomes clearer and kinder. As your mind becomes beautiful, your world becomes beautiful.” (Katie and Mitchell 2017, chap. 10, 91) If your world is corrupt, it’s because you haven’t questioned the thoughts that are making it appear that way. 14 February 2026, https://www.actualized.org/insights/the-corruption-of-series. “The most selfish, ignorant, and power-hungry people breed the most.” 14 March 2026, https://actualized.org/insights/the-devils-breeding-program. “You are still identifying as a you, and you begin to see that you yourself are all the people you found unkind, brutal, stupid, crazy, greedy, despicable, and this is so painful that sometimes you don’t think you can bear it. As it keeps inquiring, the mind continues to understand that it is its only enemy and that the world is entirely its projection, that it is alone, that there is no other, and that this is absolute.” (Katie and Mitchell 2007, chap. 70, 233) “A master, a perfected being, sees only perfection.” (“Lester Levenson, Hale Dwoskin - Lester Levenson (Sedona Method) Magnum Opus PDF-Lester Levenson _ Sedona Method (2024)”, 753) “Perfection is another name for reality. The only way you can see anything as imperfect is if you believe a thought about it.” (Katie and Mitchell 2007, _A Thousand Names for Joy_, chap. 45, 132) “Another day, sitting in the living room, I pour hot tea from a kettle into a cup, and I don’t see that the cup is cracked, and the hot tea spills out onto my left hand. Ow! What an adventure! Even as my hand starts to throb, I’m aware that what I’m watching is absolute perfection. How can I believe that my hand is not supposed to be scalded when it is?” (Katie and Mitchell 2007, chap. 54, 159) `Screenshot from 2025-12-01 14-07-11.png` `leo-quote-consciousness-is-able-to-see-good-01.png` “___SELF-GROWTH YARDSTICKS___” (“Lester Levenson - The Ultimate Truth About Love & Happiness_ A Handbook to Life-Lawrence Crane (2024).pdf”, 82) “After it’s all over, do you still get upset when you find a parking ticket on your windshield?” (Katie and Mitchell 2017, _A Mind at Home with Itself_, 91) -
Lunatic replied to Lunatic's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
A Summary of Awakening “Each of us is the only one there is. There’s no other!” (Katie and Mitchell 2017, chap. 1, 2) “So I read the Bible from beginning to end and really understood the original meaning, most of which has gone out of the Bible by reinterpretations again and again. And then I looked at the schools of metaphysics, theosophy, went through all of them so I'd have the language of communication. Then I realized after going through all that, simple English will do it.” (“Lester Levenson, Hale Dwoskin - Lester Levenson (Sedona Method) Magnum Opus PDF-Lester Levenson _ Sedona Method (2024).pdf”, 103) Lester Levenson, Byron Katie and the Pali Canon are the sources on awakening or enlightenment, the end of stress/suffering, etc. that I find most authoritative. By awakening I mean what Levenson describes in his biography, Lloyd 1983, _Choose Freedom: Have, Be, and Do Whatever You Will or Desire_, chapters 11, 12, 13 and 14. (Lloyd 1983, _Choose Freedom: Have, Be, and Do Whatever You Will or Desire_, https://archive.org/details/choose_freedom Laura Lucille, “About My Teacher”, https://lauralucille.org/blog-eng-featured/my-teacher-lester-levenson-laura-lucille “Also, when you wake up you’ll discover that you never ever were apart from your real Self, which is whole, perfect, complete, unlimited; that all these experiences were images in your mind just like in a night dream you imagine everything that’s going on. But while you’re in a night dream, it’s real to you. If someone is trying to kill you in a night dream, it’s real; you’re struggling for your life. But when you wake up from that dream, what do you say? “It was just a dream; it was my imagination.” This waking state is exactly as real as a night dream. We’re all dreaming we are physical bodies; we’re dreaming the whole thing. However, in order to reach this awakened state, it is first necessary to drop a major, part of your subconscious thinking.” (Levenson 1993, 317) _The Essential Lectures Of Alan Watts. Internet Archive,_ https://archive.org/details/02.theessentiallecturesofalanwattsego/05.+The+Essential+Lectures+of+Alan+Watts-+Cosmic+Drama.mp4. 6 min., 10 sec., Accessed 27 Nov. 2025. “However, in order to reach this awakened state, it is first necessary to” figuratively let go of or “drop a major, part of your subconscious thinking” using CBT, especially Byron Katie's The Work, but also, Brad Blanton _Radical Honesty_, David Burns's _Feeling Great_, David H. Barlow's _Treatments That Work_, Smith's _When I Say No, I Feel Guilty_, etc. “Once you see the truth, the thought lets go of _you_, not the other way around.” (Katie and Mitchell 2021, 152) “It’s the truth that sets you free.” (Katie and Mitchell 2007, chap. 40) “Before the thought, you weren’t suffering; with the thought, you’re suffering; when you recognize that the thought isn’t true, again there is no suffering.” (Katie and Mitchell 2021, 9) “When discussing the noble eightfold path, the Buddha focused most often on the fact that following it leads to the end of suffering. This point is so important in his teachings that he twice stated, “Both formerly & now, it’s only stress that I describe, and the cessation of stress” (SN 22:86; MN 22). Any question that interfered with this aim, he would put aside.” DeGraff, On the Path: An Anthology on the Noble Eightfold Path drawn from the Pāli Canon, OnThePath210213.pdf, 21. https://www.dhammatalks.org/books/OnThePath/Section0006.html “When your feelings are up and out, your mind is naturally quiet. And you're self-obvious to yourself as to the fact that you are whole, complete, perfect, eternal.” (“Lester Levenson, Hale Dwoskin - Lester Levenson (Sedona Method) Magnum Opus PDF-Lester Levenson _ Sedona Method (2024).pdf”, 394) “Self (God) is Infinite, Limitless; One, Indivisible; Perfect; Changeless, Immutable; Timeless, Without Beginning or End; Whole, The All; Omniscient, Omnipotent, Omnipresent.” (Lester 1962, 65) “The cosmic joke is, it's all a dream. Everything. All of it.”, https://www.instagram.com/p/Bm3o1tBB39T/. “A SUMMARY THE SELF-GOD-ABSOLUTE TRUTH” (Lester 1962, 65) “Cognitive behavioural therapy (CBT)”, https://www.nhs.uk/mental-health/talking-therapies-medicine-treatments/talking-therapies-and-counselling/cognitive-behavioural-therapy-cbt/. https://www.mindprod.com/livinglove/livinglove.html “__THE WORLD AS A DREAM__” (Levenson 1993, 4) “Spiritual awakening – A spiritual awakening …” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mystical_or_religious_experience#Related_terms https://global.oup.com/academic/content/series/t/treatments-that-work-ttw “All this took place beyond time. But when I put it into language, I have to backtrack and fill in.” (Katie and Mitchell 63, 2007) “It is incorrect to think that Nirvāṇa is the natural result of the extinction of craving. Nirvāṇa is not …” (Rahula 1978, 40) SEE ALSO (Carse 2005, _Perfect Brilliant Stillness_, 60) -
Lunatic replied to AtmanIsBrahman's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@UnbornTao “Ultimately, what is real can’t be seen or heard or thought or grasped. You’re just seeing your own eyes, hearing your own ears, reacting to the world of your own imagination. It’s all created by your mind in the first place. You name it, you create it, you give it meaning upon meaning upon meaning. You add the what to reality, then you add the why. It’s all you.” (Katie and Mitchell 2007, chap. 14) “Even if you experience all the levels and dimensions within one thought, all the veils and loops of it, not even the deepest knowledge has meaning. Anyone can step into it at any level, and it would be true. There is nothing that isn’t true if you believe it, and nothing that is true, believe it or not.” (Katie and Mitchell 2007, chap. 52) -
Lunatic replied to AtmanIsBrahman's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
“So, this raises the question: what is the most truthful teaching?” @AtmanIsBrahman “The Buddha compares his teaching to a raft that takes people from the shore of suffering to the shore of freedom.” “The Work too is like a raft.” (Katie and Mitchell 2017, chap. 6) “This one speaks any egoic language necessary to trick you into going inside.” (Katie 1998, 12) “Nothing anyone says is true, and no thought that arises within you is true.” (Katie and Mitchell 2007, chap. 62) The Work of Byron Katie and The teachings of the Buddha are false/imagined/projected/fabricated but they bring about what is ultimately true/not false/…. “The Understanding, the knowing of Self, Presence, ultimate Truth, lies outside human experience as it lies outside time and space.” (Carse 2005, 61) “All this took place beyond time. But when I put it into language, I have to backtrack and fill in.” (Katie and Mitchell 63, 2007) See also (Carse 2005, _Perfect Brilliant Stillness_, 60) “Of course every spiritual teacher has to worry about survival just to be able to teach.” @Leo Gura “Well wonderful, what's wrong with vitamins? I sleep, I eat, so what? The question is, do I have to? And the only reason why the great ones live like we do is because we can't comprehend them if they don't.” (“Lester Levenson, Hale Dwoskin - Lester Levenson (Sedona Method) Magnum Opus PDF-Lester Levenson _ Sedona Method (2024)”, 29) “If the householder said no, the no was received with gratitude, because the Buddha understood that the privilege of feeding him belonged to someone other than that person. Food wasn’t the point. He didn’t need it. He didn’t need to keep himself alive. He was just giving people an opportunity to be generous.” (Katie and Mitchell 2017, chap. 1)
