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@Leo Gura “Trump was bred to be the devil that he is.” 14 March 2026, https://actualized.org/insights/the-devils-breeding-program. “Good things, bad things; good people, bad people. These opposites are valid only by contrast. Could it be that whatever seems bad to you is just something you haven’t seen clearly enough yet? In reality—as it is in itself—every thing, every person, lies far beyond your capacity to judge.” (Katie and Mitchell 2007, 8) (“§ 12. These four imponderables are not to be speculated about. Whoever speculates about them would go mad & experience vexation. Which four? […] The results of kamma (= “lies far beyond your capacity to judge”) ….” (DeGraff wings210213.pdf, 93; https://www.dhammatalks.org/suttas/AN/AN4_77.html, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_unanswerable_questions) E.g., “If you are an action-based thinker, and your principles prohibit killing innocent people, you would not shoot. This may create a tragic situation, but not an ethical dilemma. If you are a consequentialist, the situation becomes much more complex.” (Howard and Korver 2008, 40) See PDFsam_merge_16_pt_29_November_2025.pdf, 58–59.) “A mind that doesn’t question its judgments makes the world very small and dangerous. It must continue to fill the world with bad things and bad people, and in doing so it creates its own suffering.” (Katie and Mitchell 2007, chap. 2, 8) “When you do The Work, you see who you are by seeing who you think other people are. Eventually you come to see that everything outside you is a reflection of your own thinking. You are the storyteller, the projector of all stories, and the world is the projected image of your thoughts.” (Katie and Mitchell 2021, chap. 1, 13) “The power of the turnaround lies in the discovery that everything you think you see on the outside is really a projection of your own mind. Everything is a mirror image of your own thinking.” (Katie and Mitchell 2021, chap. 5, 156–157) “The whole world is projected.” (Katie and Mitchell 2007, chap. 1, 4) “If there’s anything that I see in you that annoys me, it’s because I have it in me. If I didn’t have it in me, I couldn’t even see it in you.” (Levenson 1993, 236) “The world you see is a reflection of how you see it. If your world is ugly or unfair, it’s because you haven’t questioned the thoughts that are making it appear that way. As your mind becomes clearer and kinder, your world becomes clearer and kinder. As your mind becomes beautiful, your world becomes beautiful.” (Katie and Mitchell 2017, chap. 10, 91) If your world is corrupt, it’s because you haven’t questioned the thoughts that are making it appear that way. 14 February 2026, https://www.actualized.org/insights/the-corruption-of-series. “The most selfish, ignorant, and power-hungry people breed the most.” 14 March 2026, https://actualized.org/insights/the-devils-breeding-program. “You are still identifying as a you, and you begin to see that you yourself are all the people you found unkind, brutal, stupid, crazy, greedy, despicable, and this is so painful that sometimes you don’t think you can bear it. As it keeps inquiring, the mind continues to understand that it is its only enemy and that the world is entirely its projection, that it is alone, that there is no other, and that this is absolute.” (Katie and Mitchell 2007, chap. 70, 233) “A master, a perfected being, sees only perfection.” (“Lester Levenson, Hale Dwoskin - Lester Levenson (Sedona Method) Magnum Opus PDF-Lester Levenson _ Sedona Method (2024)”, 753) “Perfection is another name for reality. The only way you can see anything as imperfect is if you believe a thought about it.” (Katie and Mitchell 2007, _A Thousand Names for Joy_, chap. 45, 132) “Another day, sitting in the living room, I pour hot tea from a kettle into a cup, and I don’t see that the cup is cracked, and the hot tea spills out onto my left hand. Ow! What an adventure! Even as my hand starts to throb, I’m aware that what I’m watching is absolute perfection. How can I believe that my hand is not supposed to be scalded when it is?” (Katie and Mitchell 2007, chap. 54, 159) `Screenshot from 2025-12-01 14-07-11.png` `leo-quote-consciousness-is-able-to-see-good-01.png` “___SELF-GROWTH YARDSTICKS___” (“Lester Levenson - The Ultimate Truth About Love & Happiness_ A Handbook to Life-Lawrence Crane (2024).pdf”, 82) “After it’s all over, do you still get upset when you find a parking ticket on your windshield?” (Katie and Mitchell 2017, _A Mind at Home with Itself_, 91)

A Summary of Awakening “Each of us is the only one there is. There’s no other!” (Katie and Mitchell 2017, chap. 1, 2) “So I read the Bible from beginning to end and really understood the original meaning, most of which has gone out of the Bible by reinterpretations again and again. And then I looked at the schools of metaphysics, theosophy, went through all of them so I'd have the language of communication. Then I realized after going through all that, simple English will do it.” (‭“Lester Levenson, Hale Dwoskin - Lester Levenson (Sedona Method) Magnum Opus PDF-Lester Levenson _ Sedona Method (2024).pdf”, 103) Lester Levenson, Byron Katie and the Pali Canon are the sources on awakening or enlightenment, the end of stress/suffering, etc. that I find most authoritative. By awakening I mean what Levenson describes in his biography, Lloyd 1983, _Choose Freedom: Have, Be, and Do Whatever You Will or Desire_, chapters 11, 12, 13 and 14. (Lloyd 1983, _Choose Freedom: Have, Be, and Do Whatever You Will or Desire_, https://archive.org/details/choose_freedom Laura Lucille, “About My Teacher”, https://lauralucille.org/blog-eng-featured/my-teacher-lester-levenson-laura-lucille “Also, when you wake up you’ll discover that you never ever were apart from your real Self, which is whole, perfect, complete, unlimited; that all these experiences were images in your mind just like in a night dream you imagine everything that’s going on. But while you’re in a night dream, it’s real to you. If someone is trying to kill you in a night dream, it’s real; you’re struggling for your life. But when you wake up from that dream, what do you say? “It was just a dream; it was my imagination.” This waking state is exactly as real as a night dream. We’re all dreaming we are physical bodies; we’re dreaming the whole thing. However, in order to reach this awakened state, it is first necessary to drop a major, part of your subconscious thinking.” (Levenson 1993, 317) _The Essential Lectures Of Alan Watts. Internet Archive,_ https://archive.org/details/02.theessentiallecturesofalanwattsego/05.+The+Essential+Lectures+of+Alan+Watts-+Cosmic+Drama.mp4. 6 min., 10 sec., Accessed 27 Nov. 2025. “However, in order to reach this awakened state, it is first necessary to” figuratively let go of or “drop a major, part of your subconscious thinking” using CBT, especially Byron Katie's The Work, but also, Brad Blanton _Radical Honesty_, David Burns's _Feeling Great_, David H. Barlow's _Treatments That Work_, Smith's _When I Say No, I Feel Guilty_, etc. “Once you see the truth, the thought lets go of _you_, not the other way around.” (Katie and Mitchell 2021, 152) “It’s the truth that sets you free.” (Katie and Mitchell 2007, chap. 40) “Before the thought, you weren’t suffering; with the thought, you’re suffering; when you recognize that the thought isn’t true, again there is no suffering.” (Katie and Mitchell 2021, 9) “When discussing the noble eightfold path, the Buddha focused most often on the fact that following it leads to the end of suffering. This point is so important in his teachings that he twice stated, “Both formerly & now, it’s only stress that I describe, and the cessation of stress” (SN 22:86; MN 22). Any question that interfered with this aim, he would put aside.” DeGraff, On the Path: An Anthology on the Noble Eightfold Path drawn from the Pāli Canon, OnThePath210213.pdf, 21. https://www.dhammatalks.org/books/OnThePath/Section0006.html “When your feelings are up and out, your mind is naturally quiet. And you're self-obvious to yourself as to the fact that you are whole, complete, perfect, eternal.” (‭“Lester Levenson, Hale Dwoskin - Lester Levenson (Sedona Method) Magnum Opus PDF-Lester Levenson _ Sedona Method (2024).pdf”, 394) “Self (God) is Infinite, Limitless; One, Indivisible; Perfect; Changeless, Immutable; Timeless, Without Beginning or End; Whole, The All; Omniscient, Omnipotent, Omnipresent.” (Lester 1962, 65) “The cosmic joke is, it's all a dream. Everything. All of it.”, https://www.instagram.com/p/Bm3o1tBB39T/. “A SUMMARY THE SELF-GOD-ABSOLUTE TRUTH” (Lester 1962, 65) “Cognitive behavioural therapy (CBT)”, https://www.nhs.uk/mental-health/talking-therapies-medicine-treatments/talking-therapies-and-counselling/cognitive-behavioural-therapy-cbt/. https://www.mindprod.com/livinglove/livinglove.html “__THE WORLD AS A DREAM__” (Levenson 1993, 4) “Spiritual awakening – A spiritual awakening …” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mystical_or_religious_experience#Related_terms https://global.oup.com/academic/content/series/t/treatments-that-work-ttw “All this took place beyond time. But when I put it into language, I have to backtrack and fill in.” (Katie and Mitchell 63, 2007) “It is incorrect to think that Nirvāṇa is the natural result of the extinction of craving. Nirvāṇa is not …” (Rahula 1978, 40) SEE ALSO (Carse 2005, _Perfect Brilliant Stillness_, 60)

@UnbornTao “Ultimately, what is real can’t be seen or heard or thought or grasped. You’re just seeing your own eyes, hearing your own ears, reacting to the world of your own imagination. It’s all created by your mind in the first place. You name it, you create it, you give it meaning upon meaning upon meaning. You add the what to reality, then you add the why. It’s all you.” (Katie and Mitchell 2007, chap. 14) “Even if you experience all the levels and dimensions within one thought, all the veils and loops of it, not even the deepest knowledge has meaning. Anyone can step into it at any level, and it would be true. There is nothing that isn’t true if you believe it, and nothing that is true, believe it or not.” (Katie and Mitchell 2007, chap. 52)

“So, this raises the question: what is the most truthful teaching?” @AtmanIsBrahman “The Buddha compares his teaching to a raft that takes people from the shore of suffering to the shore of freedom.” “The Work too is like a raft.” (Katie and Mitchell 2017, chap. 6) “This one speaks any egoic language necessary to trick you into going inside.” (Katie 1998, 12) “Nothing anyone says is true, and no thought that arises within you is true.” (Katie and Mitchell 2007, chap. 62) The Work of Byron Katie and The teachings of the Buddha are false/imagined/projected/fabricated but they bring about what is ultimately true/not false/…. “The Understanding, the knowing of Self, Presence, ultimate Truth, lies outside human experience as it lies outside time and space.” (Carse 2005, 61) “All this took place beyond time. But when I put it into language, I have to backtrack and fill in.” (Katie and Mitchell 63, 2007) See also (Carse 2005, _Perfect Brilliant Stillness_, 60) “Of course every spiritual teacher has to worry about survival just to be able to teach.” @Leo Gura “Well wonderful, what's wrong with vitamins? I sleep, I eat, so what? The question is, do I have to? And the only reason why the great ones live like we do is because we can't comprehend them if they don't.” (“Lester Levenson, Hale Dwoskin - Lester Levenson (Sedona Method) Magnum Opus PDF-Lester Levenson _ Sedona Method (2024)”, 29) “If the householder said no, the no was received with gratitude, because the Buddha understood that the privilege of feeding him belonged to someone other than that person. Food wasn’t the point. He didn’t need it. He didn’t need to keep himself alive. He was just giving people an opportunity to be generous.” (Katie and Mitchell 2017, chap. 1)

@AtmanIsBrahman I have collected a number of synonyms for what you refer to as pure truth, “God (n., sense 2)”, PDFsam_merge_16_pt_29_November_2025.pdf, 95–96, https://mega.nz/folder/h5pG3Dia#6K7_dyn22-W5dR9C2MauHg.

“If you will look at it from your very own center, the words love, acceptance, identification, understanding, communication, truth, God, Self are all the same.” (Levenson 1993, 43, 122-124, 250-258; Keyes 1992, 2-11) “Reality is a race, consciousness is a race towards who can love (= “like or enjoy very much”) who more.” (…, “Outrageous Experiments In Consciousness - 30 Awakenings In 30 Days”, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnn0IU0-atg, 1 hr., 1 min., 55 sec.) “Now, the truth is the absolute one, the changeless. That which never changes is true. If it changes, it wasn't true in the first place.” (“Lester Levenson, Hale Dwoskin - Lester Levenson (Sedona Method) Magnum Opus PDF-Lester Levenson _ Sedona Method (2024)”, 164) “All of my desire for my entire life has just been desire of my own self. …. So in a sense all of your desire is really, is a perversion of the desire for God.” (…, “Outrageous Experiments In Consciousness - 30 Awakenings In 30 Days”, 19 April 2020, 47 min., 20 sec., https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnn0IU0-atg) “This thing that everyone is seeking, this thing that everyone calls happiness, is nothing but the infinite Self that we are. Everyone, in his every act, is seeking this infinite Self that he is, calling it by other names: money, happiness, success, love, etc.” (Levenson 1993, 305) “Anyone who’s seeking happiness is seeking the Self. There are two kinds of people in the world: those who are consciously seeking God, happiness, the Self, and those who are unconsciously seeking them.” (Levenson 1993, 343) “Everyone is seeking his Self in his every act.” (Levenson 1993, 347) “The ultimate happiness is the Self. Any other happiness is only a bit of the Self.” (Levenson 1993, 347) “The Third Noble Truth is the Cessation of _Dukkha_, Nirvāṇa, the Absolute Truth, the Ultimate Reality.” (Rahula 1978, 50) ““I’m going to get better as I do The Work”—if you have that as a motive, you can afford that hope, since it’s true that as you do The Work you do get better, until you catch up to your dear, wonderful self and discover that, except for what you’ve been believing, you and the world have always been perfect, and you were innocent without being aware of it.” (Katie and Mitchell 2017, chap. 9) “Any motive other than the love of truth won’t work. It’s the truth that sets you free. That’s an accurate statement—it’s not just written in a bible somewhere. And the truth we’re talking about is not someone else’s truth; it’s your own. That’s the only truth that can set you free.” (Katie and Mitchell 2007, chap. 40) “If someone were to ask us whether we would prefer to be enlightened or happy, we would obviously choose happiness. If we believed that enlightenment would bring us misery, we would never seek it. It is only because it is believed that enlightenment will bring happiness that we are willing to devote our lives to seeking it. Likewise, if we believed that knowledge of God would make us miserable, no one would seek God. The only reason we were seeking enlightenment or God in the first place was that all other possible sources of happiness had failed us thus far. It is often as a last resort that we turn to the search for enlightenment or God, in the hope that its fulfilment will finally relieve us of our suffering and provide happiness. Therefore, the desire for happiness is the highest desire, and as such it is unique: it is the only thing we seek for its own sake.” (Spira 2022, _You Are the Happiness You Seek: Uncovering the Awareness of Being_, 6) “Once you understand yourself, you are the pleasure you were seeking; you are what you always wanted.” (Katie and Mitchell 2007, chap. 73) “If you were able to love as much as God what would happen is that this duality would completely merge and you would literally become God so the only thing separating you from God is simply your capacity to love which is just a function of how selfless you are” (…, “Outrageous Experiments In Consciousness - 30 Awakenings In 30 Days”, 19 April 2020, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnn0IU0-atg) “You are NOT God as long as you oppose what is.” (Katie 1998, 150)

“The basic mechanism of desire is, first, we create a lack and then desire whatever is necessary to fill that lack. The desire creates thoughts. The thoughts cover the Self and this makes us unhappy. Then we look to relieve that unhappiness by fulfilling the desire which momentarily stills the thoughts. The stilling of thoughts removes a bit of the cover of the Self and it’s the feeling of a bit more of the Self that We call pleasure. We wrongly attribute that joy or pleasure to the thing or person that was used to fulfill the desire to relieve the agony of the thoughts of desire that were covering the Self. Because of this wrong attributing of the joy to the person or thing, the desire will never be satiated because the joy is not in the person or thing. The only possibility of satiety is to remain in your Self!” (Levenson 1993, _Keys to the Ultimate Freedom: Thoughts and Talks on Personal Transformation_, 109–110) “__Lester:__ You are making the physical thing the joy and it isn’t. The real thing is that you are that joy, only a million times more so! As high as the feeling is that you get from sex, you can go way, way beyond that feeling in joy, and have it twenty-four hours a day.” (Levenson 1993, _Keys to the Ultimate Freedom: Thoughts and Talks on Personal Transformation_, 264) https://archive.org/details/keys-to-the-ultimate-freedom-thoughts-and-talks-on-personal-transformation-leste “Love is what you are already. … Sometimes you may seem to trade love for the stressful thought appearing in the moment. It’s a little trip out into illusion. Seeking love is how you lose the awareness of love. But you can only lose the awareness of it, not the state. That’s not an option, because love is what we all are. That’s immovable. When you investigate your stressful thinking and your mind becomes clear, love pours into your life, and there’s nothing you can do about it.” (Katie and Katz 2005, _I Need Your Love-- Is That True? How to Stop Seeking Love, Approval, and Appreciation and Start Finding Them Instead_, 245–256) There may be more fitting excerpts.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdWxdhEB19s [1:17:45] @Scholar

Thanks for the answer I can see what you're saying there, it surprisingly fits into my conceptual framework. Except for this sentence, what do you mean with answer for? To take responsibility? In what sense?

Thx. Working on that, cautiously. I have put concentration & mindfulness on hold. @Razard86's latest threads caught my attention.

Hello. This is what I am doing now. I’ve been at it for ~ a year. If I experience a stressful feeling then I know that it’s time to inquire. What’s the most effective way to go about talking to God? What are the instructions here? I am open to this path of no evidence I would like to speed up the process of awakening I don't care as much if it's not analytical.

Is this your sober state? Are you living Heaven on Earth currently? @Leo Gura

Nice thx.

This is at odds with Leo's two latest videos. You don't harm others in order not to get in trouble with the dream police; there is no mention of you living the lives of those you have harmed. Likewise if you kill yourself (which you shouldn't) then your family ceases to exist; you living the lives of your family members is not an objection. @Inliytened1 Do you agree on this? Am I going to experience my mum's life or not?

@Inliytened1 I don't understand how the post in OP is addressing the issue. If I am creating reality how come I am not aware of it? Not being conscious enough is not a good answer. There is no other side to the table. Everything that exists is here in experience except that there is no knowledge of how I am making it happen.