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That's fair, but dismissing modern knowledge entirely is obviously not a smart move either. It's not that interesting, I agree. The juice is really in all the models he's integrating. If you're deeply into psychology and familiar with all the source material, you will probably get way more out of this book, than an interested lay person, such as we will. Sex, Ecology, Spirituality is fantastic though (I hope you have read this one... or else!)

Every iteration of EA's FIFA is the same game at its core, yet compare FIFA 99 to FIFA 23.

He's actually not. The way he talks about those things is how they should he talked about. Whether you agree with his politics is another issue.

lol If anything, he should listen to Leo on this point. Leo is right for cutting through bullshit when it comes to Truth. If you try to fit Truth into some moral system, you corrupt it - that's the point, no?

Because one is a belief system and the other is a direct experience of Truth. I agree that we need better belief systems, that's not the issue.

Religion ≠ Spirituality

Let's develop ourselves and become integrated and mature people, but let's not fool ourselves when it comes to truth.

Yes it is. We're talking about truth, while everything else are cultural constructions, which can be contained and modified for the benefit of society - which is what we should be talking about.

Good for you. The problem is that while premodern societys did a good job of mapping out the inner individual experience of reality, it did not have the means to figure out the other dimensions of reality in the same depth. That's why he's saying premodernity got the levels right and modernity found the correlates in the other quadrants (and postmodernity figured out the high contextual sensitivity of all this knowledge). Of course all of this is downstream from truth, which is neither of the quadrants.

Why are we playing these games? We can talk about religion and I'm interested in that conversation, but that's not spirituality.

Spirituality is not happening within society. We can talk about creating a great society and I'm all for that, but that's not this conversation. We can even talk about religion. Spirituality is fundamentally your business and every attempt to undermine this is literally evil.

This is a stupid comparison. The problem is that people are stupid and don't understand truth and thus are not in a position to tell sages and mystics how they should go about their work.

What is philosophy? Actually, what is all of culture, if not this conversation?

That's not the point. It's not "every man for himself." It's "truth is sacred and shouldn't be outlawed just because it hurts your feelings."

The death cult ethics board.

You want to institutionalize awakening to moralize and punish truth? Sounds like you have some serious issues my man.

It's the most serious student for whom spirituality will be more than just belief and hearsay.

You forgot the other 3 quadrants

The serious student wouldn't care about this nonsense. The only legitimate tenet is "does this help me awaken, or not?"

Yes.

Are you asking whether we're gonna create life?

All the AI is doing is reporting back some information to you that it has been fed. It can't really make new connections and have original insights, at least the current iteration. I pushed it very hard to give me something original, but it just couldn't do it.

lol yeah, that was wild. I don't think an AI could do that though. That's basically just trying to grasp your own mind with your mind until it breaks down.

The same as juicing vegetables?!