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@Gesundheit2 I wouldn’t have made this thread on a forum filled with people who I know disagree with me if I didn’t want my beliefs questioned plus it’s not insane to think pharmaceutical companies conspire to make profits.

@Leo Gura "muh u dumb" Respond to my above post lol

@Lyubov No matter what it is, if it’s the cotton mill, printing press, to artificial intelligence, you will always have luddites lol. Yes AI should be regulated that doesn’t mean it shouldn’t exist. Unless you’re taking it all the way back, full Luddite Unabomber style, then stop.

@Leo Gura Yes I'm sure Leo you're much more knowledgeable than world leading cardiologist Aseem Malhotra. Who is it saving exactly, the average age of death from covid was literally higher than life expectancy, and now excess deaths across all age groups are higher than they ever were when covid was still a thing and no vax. That argument makes literally no sense. "Yayyy we stopped some old boomers dying from covid but now every age group is in massive excess death, but only in heavily vaxxed countries, but its definitely NOT the vax so don't even bother looking into it", If you cared about public health that much you would be marching in the streets demanding governments actually look into what is going on rather than just ignoring it. More people are dying right now than ever during covid and its been in heavy excess for a year now, but you don't care because it's no longer on the news so you can't use it to virtue signal with fellow vaxxies. Spent 2 years virtue signalling, demanded those that didn't want it (even those who worked through the entire thing when it was actually still an unknown risk while they were sat at home all day long for a year) be round up into camps and kill, and now we have a public health emergency of massive excess death of unknown cause and they don't give a shit because it goes against the narrative and they can't use it to virtue signal. Notice pfizer chief straight up admitted in EU parliament that they never even tested it for transmission so the entire narrative for covid vax passports was completely fraudulent, but it was swept under the rug and these people don't care because they were the oppressors with privileges and those that didn't want it were the filthy lower class that should be killed. "Bro how did the Germans just go along with nazi stuff wtf they just let it happen to the jews wtf" took Hitler the better part of a decade to get people to that point, it took these NPCs less than 1 month of the jab being out to demand those that didn't take it be round up and ostracized from society and killed.

Self help is a multi billion dollar industry. It's main target industry is men and it's focus is on ways for said men to increase their status. Why do men strive for status? Because women sexually select for status. If you remove the need to be sexually satiated, then you take away men's need to strive for status. So you place men in a situation where men aren't going to do anything. If you improve yourself but you get nothing from it, then why improve? If the improvement does nothing to increase your social status than the majority of men won't have the motivation and or discipline to bother. If men are in a constant need for sexual satiation then they will constantly be looking for ways to increase their status through the self improvement industry. So I believe that the primary motivation behind the vast majority of self improvement is men's attempts to sexually satiate themselves. Now to acknowledge that fact is to demotivate yourself and get in the way of your goal of increasing your status, as you'll naturally lose motivation if you think that the only reason you're doing what you're doing is to get status to get laid generally. So men typically have a need to construct rationale that they're actually self improving for some grand greater purpose. But as Leo pointed out in his most recent video in a quote at the start. So when you do actual understand the main driving force behind the desire to self improve and as a result become naturally demotivated. What are the best ways in which you can still find motivation without deluding yourself into thinking it's about some greater purpose? This question is mainly aimed at men.

@Basman You're probably right. This is my curse, overthinking things that don't need to be over thought. For some reason even though you're probably right I still have a hard time accepting it. Life just seems so bland and pointless with that being the reality. I might have something wrong with me for thinking this way. @flowboy What could that something be and how do you unblock it? I don't know how to remove the shit blocking me. They're all great examples. Thank you @Rafael Thundercat You're right friend, I do enjoy being a bit proactive just to get convos going but this thread has been helpful and a good vibe so I appreciate it guys ? I think my overthinking about the root of everything having to do with sex is probably due to some shit that's clogged up my motivation in life so Tyler is probably right in some way. I don't know ironically I'm going to need to give it some more thought tomorrow.

@Matt23 Sure, I'll be more clear then, from the time I boy reaches puberty and becomes a young man till he ages enough that his sex drive begins to plummet. Lets say 14 - 70 generally, boys to men get flooded with hormones and a sex drive that makes them want more than they can ever have. Ofcourse a sexuals exist but they typically have a hormonal problem. Obviously not all pain comes from lack of sex lol. Yes this is my main point. I agree that in many instances the prime motivator may be difficult to detect given the disconnect from arousal and sex being in the conscious mind. In so far as any trait doesn't lead to breeding those traits will eventually be breed out of the gene pool. So those desires in some way help your genes pass on. There are several ways you can pass on your genes, you can pass on your own genes directly, you can pass on your families genes such as your brothers or sisters childrens by providing or protecting them. Or you can pass on your groups genes. Two typical Englishmen for instance have a lot more genetic similarity than a typical Englishman and a typical Frenchman. It's been shown that typically even friends have similar genes. I think the primary motivator for men is sex. But there are other lesser motivators that server in the grand scheme to increase the chances of having sex. In so far as they don't they're selected out of the gene pool. I mean it as the main motivator and I appreciate you took the time to read and understand my point and ask me the question so thank you @roopepa This is a much nicer way to put it and I might start framing it this way more in my mind yes. But a big part of what makes people happy is having status (upper Maslows needs) and having sex.

@Tyler Robinson Imagine thinking respecting women helps you get laid lol

@Devin Yes ofcourse lots of people died from the virus. But it was less dangerous for people who are younger and fit. It also wasn’t a very deadly virus. The vaccine helps combat only certain variants of covid. But leads to new variations to spawn that the vaccine can not combat, variations that wouldn’t exist if not for the vaccine. So overall no I don’t not think it helps. What would have helped is to build herd immunity and then vaccinate those who hadn’t previously been infected, those who have been infected have already built the antibodies so the vaccine is redundant and more dangerous. I support most vaccines yes. My major problem is with MRNA gene therapy.

Damn @Leo Gura you’re being based ? as hell in this thread even tho you were threatening to give me the boot lol

@Tyler Robinson That's a shame I was hoping for a reply to my last post because I thought we were getting somewhere Maybe for you but I was gaining insight lol

@Tyler Robinson As a result of my understanding of evolution and philosophy. Lots of people say the meaning of life is to have children and to procreate. That's why we're all here, everything we are is a result of breeding and gene selection through competition. Which determines who gets to breed and what genes are passed on. Human beings too are animals, for this reason we have animalistic needs and cravings. I do think there's some truth to your question that if you were satisfied sexually why would you even bother to think or analyse the human condition and sexual selection. Men who are sexually fulfilled really don't care to analyse and ask these questions because they have no need. It's men who have a problem and then ask why, that end up finding the truth in an attempt to fix their problem. But just because you're satiated and oblivious to the reality doesn't mean the reality does not exist. What do you mean by satisfied with women? If you mean a man who has sex, plenty of men do talk like that and have throughout all of human history, only recently do we have progressive ideology where this line of rhetoric is controversial. Or are you saying Andrew Tate or other men like him don't get laid? But yeah my post history does show that I believe men are being feminized because they are. Oh okay, this is why I need to read the whole post before I reply lol. I go paragraph by paragraph responding. Yeah maybe I am resentful. I do have resentment towards men as well, but because I don't want to fuck men I care less about it. When you analyse human beings from a sort of detached anthropological perspective and look at them as sort of animals it can breed a resentment and cynicism. For example my belief in the idea of romantic love sort of disappeared. So it probably does color my world view you're right. But I think it doesn't mean my world view is wrong, it's just a factor that lead to me arriving at this point where I view the world this way. If that makes sense. We dominate and survive to ensure we pass on our genes, then we stay alive long enough so our offspring can survive, then we die. Many species, for example the male black widow spider, will throws itself willing into the females mouth after copulation because it's need to survive becomes superfluous because it doesn't have much of a role in making sure it's offspring survives. It's best role after copulating is to give the female nutrition lol. So if a black widow male spider became aware of this reality, wouldn't it be rational for the spider to be resentful towards its nature and the biological condition?

@Tyler Robinson No I think women civilize men, in large part by castrating them or sedating their sexual urges. Egalitarianism is a feminine ideology. Men are all about dividing people into groups and tribes. Then competing in those groups and having them fight one another. Gay men are still men biological hard wired like heterosexual men with the same cravings. They're just mutants that keep in the gene pool because they serve in pro social ways. For example homosexual men mean less competition for heterosexual men which stabilizes society. Also I'd theorize although admittedly I haven't seen much evidence for this and I wonder if it exists, but I would think homosexual men are far less competitive than straight men. Also I think in most realms of male competition straight men would pummel gay men. Gay men typically more effeminate than the average straight male so more alike women so inherently less competitive. Yes but the sexes dominate one another for different reasons. Yes it is all about status. I don't think I'm making it complicated at all. I've been told I'm quite attractive by a few girls, I'm pretty tall. I workout. I just don't really pursue women or get out enough. Maybe the fact that I'm not getting enough women is part of the reason I've been drawn to think about this topic. But I think this is more of what I mentioned in the previous post of shaming and silence by questioning a mans sexual virility. Also how exactly would what I'm saying rationalize my frustration? So you're saying I'm sexually frustrated and because I'm frustrated this is my world view, ok, but how does my world view rationalize my sexual frustration? How am I supposed to feel any better because this is my world view, is my question. Sorry who am I blaming for what exactly?

@zurew Just say you want to silence people who disagree with you. It’s not hard

@MarkKol Leo has put me in the naughty corner so I'm on good behavior now Mark. I honestly don't try to be outrageous lol, I just can be. @Tyler Robinson It seems to me that women go straight to implying men are impotent the moment they acknowledge just how much of male action is motivated by the desire for status and copulation. It's I think a shaming tactic to silence men. They create this binary where you're either high status "alpha" or low status "beta" and shame you when you don't live up to being "alpha". By happenstance the alphas decisions directly benefit them whereas betas decisions don't. It's a real head scratcher. If there is competition, there is a price. If there is no price, the competition is not worth it. Society is starting to realize men don't want to just kill themselves for a better society, since society have nothing to offer them anymore. So, just like in Japan since the 90s, men slowly fade away and live minimal life, just to enjoy themselves and be happy with just their hobbies and friends. But when men see what self help and the carrot is, they become demotivated. The problem for society is men need only very little to live happy. A small comfy place, an internet connection and some money left for their hobbies. Nothing more, nothing less. That's how you end up with lot of men doing the bare minimum, mostly part time jobs, making little money with their hobbies and not participating in society anymore. This is a problem when you want your economy and society works and elite make big money, but it's not a problem for men. It's a problem for society and women to have these "betas" existing. Create a society that is worth participating in for men, give men a legitimate reason for men to compete, or just shut up. As mentioned before, men only need very little. See below meme. Men accumulate resources largely to impress women and to gain status as that's what women select for. The underlying motivation for power is about getting laid. Also power is a synonym for status. Again, men need very little to be happy.

@Rafael Thundercat I've been struggling to find any intrinsic ways to motivate myself. I read a book recently "The subtle art of not giving a fuck by Mark Manson". Since then it really helped me not to care about the fears and punishments. But it also took away me caring about the carrot as much. It's tough to be motivated when you don't care about the carrot or stick. I guess I want people to confirm my beliefs if they're right. I also secretly kind of want people to prove me wrong because I'm sick of not being motivated lol

@Rafael Thundercat Actually will watch this over the weekend. Something I've been struggling with as of late. Been posting in here bout it. Thanks for the vid

@Leo Gura Damn dude, why?

@LastThursday Yes they do but for different reasons and not to the same degree as men, women still engage in self help to increase their status but not to increase their status for sexual satiation. That obviously comes easy to them and is less of a desire anyway. People will sell to whoever, whatever will be bought. If that happens to disproportionately one sex then that's that. There are many things sold exclusively to one sex. This is an argument that's silly. Evidently no.

@Danioover9000 If hearts and brains don't exist I'm sure you won't mind when Bobby boy turns up to your house to remove yours with a scalpel. Stop fearing Bob

@Danioover9000 Which is my point as to why they're retarded. Being dependent on Russia. It's so unfathomably stupid that it leads one to think that it's part of a global plan. I don't know which is scarier honestly.

@Danioover9000 I'd kill a million by being an idiot? Damn I didn't know I had this much power lol. But yeah Tate does have a lot of bad effects on the culture but he also venerates masculinity and defends men who are constantly being shat upon in mainstream culture so he has bloomer seal of approval despite all his BS

@LastThursday The primary reason behind the industry is, yes, but the industry can only get it's profit if it provides some form of a service, this service is to train men like good doggies how to increase their status to get the bone of pussy. Ofcourse a large part of media is to create desire where there was none previously so you will part ways with your money, but it's a pretty inherent biological drive for men to have anxiety when they're low on the totem pole and aren't getting laid. This applies to for practically all animals. I disagree the general thrust is definitely about status. What makes you say it isn't? No one really cares about being "better" in some vague airy fairy way. They care about being better to be higher status.

@Antor8188 Modern women are selfish and they're taught to be. Men are taught to be simps, sacrificial and push overs. This is why men like Tate are popular because they remind men that they're people too and have the right to pursue their own interests.