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Theres a lot more in tuna and breastmilk, but you dont see too many protests for those

@Emerald Im sorry but as detached as you think youll be from the interactions, i just cant see you getting many replies. I think youre overestimating how your frame and not caring position would be successful, especially if you use an average guy for the picture, average being a rating of 5, if you get one swipe right ill be surprised. I think you should put this to the test though

Man, spammers are getting intricate these days

Ive only bought private used with cash, in theory its great because you dont have any interest payments and also you can resell it in a year or two whenever you want to upgrade and put that toward the new car. The downside is if things go wrong you have to pay repairs and you can end up spending a lot on it, happened with my current car unfortunately. Everyones advice is good i just wanted to throw in a couple of slightly out the box ideas that might work for you though. Theres now companies that let you rent your car out when youre not using it, one in the states is Turo. So if you do get finance you maybe able to offset some of this cost if you dont use the car on certain days. Of course this could also be done if you buy cash, but if you want a slightly more expensive car and havent got the cash this maybe a way to do it. This honda civic for example you can get $43 a day - https://turo.com/gb/en/car-rental/united-states/los-angeles-ca/honda/civic/943275?searchId=8Bjpzug- So if you rent it out, lets say 10 days p/m youll make $433 a month, which may even cover your finance or give you a bit of extra cash. The other thing ive seen recently is electric car subscriptions, these are good because theyre all in one, you get the car, free electric with some companies, free insurance and tax, plus if anything goes wrong with it theyll pay repairs. You can also do month to month contracts and upgrade or change the car when you want. In the UK its fairly cheap but im not sure the companies that do it in America, but might be worth looking into.

Its spam bro

Just thought id throw this in, ties in to a lot of the issues raised in this thread -

Just something I've been thinking about. So there seems to be quite a negative connotation associated with making money amongst spiritual circles but I've noticed a lot of it on the forum, someone will advise someone to start a business and the other will say 'I don't really care about material things'. Don't get me wrong it's very easy to fall into the 'never having enough' mindset and devoting all your time to making more and more money, whilst neglecting other areas of your life, this is something that happens commonly. But isn't this the case with any material 'success', for example you can go to toxic extremes with working out, relationships, eating healthy, reading etc, all of these and more definitely have the ability to overtake your life, however people will always advise them because the upside is so good if they're done consciously. Why is it any different with business and making money? This is a life skill that, as long as you don't get addicted to it, can teach you so much and not only that can set a foundation for you to do everything else you want to do and also help others. If you have certain principles like basically dont be a dick and rip people off, then why not develop this skill?

Hmm heres the thing though, youre obviously more mature and youve contemplated a lot of these things and worked on yourself etc. The majority of women who would be attractive physically to most guys on the forum or otherwise, are likely to be young, not as mature, probably not contemplated or worked on themselves. Especially if they are really attractive as theres not much incentive to do so, what these means is in practice when guys go out, even if theyre not narcissistic or sociopathic, they notice that if they play with these traits, they will get more success with good looking girls, it can also work with more mature girls, but in which case you can just switch up your approach anyway. Relationship wise, its almost essentially to have the raw but tamed aspect, otherwise there will be problems, but initially im the fuck persona is much more successful. Having said that if you are truly integrated and a high value male you will be at the highest level of attractiveness if its authentic. Problem is thats a lot of work lol, so most, even by definition wont be able to reach those levels.

You might also be interested in this to show how anti-vaxxers have taken their opportunity over the pandemic. The following quote is from a report by CCDH (center for countering digital hate) you can find the full report on their website - Anti-vaxxers see Covid as an historic opportunity A number of speakers at the NVIC conference presented the Covid pandemic as an historic opportunity to popularise anti-vaccine sentiment. Robert F. Kennedy Jr. told activists listening to the conference “All of the truths that we've been trying to broadcast for many, many years. There are people hearing it and the impact and those seeds are landing on very fertile ground.”12 The disgraced physician Andrew Wakefield echoed these sentiments, saying “The population who are aware of these issues has grown dramatically in the face of coronavirus, Covid-19. It is now an issue for discussion by everyone.”13 Other anti-vaxxers such as Sherri Tenpenny highlighted the Covid pandemic as an opportunity to build a wider movement with campaigners against masks and lockdowns: “We need everyone to get politically active, get behind this cause, get behind Hugs Over Masks, get behind MAD, Mothers Against Distancing, get behind the NVIC, the National Vaccine Information Center, get behind the things that we're doing over at vaxxter.com, and Courses for Mastery, and our boot camp course that open enrolment is coming up again, the end of September. All the things that we're doing, we need all hands on deck. We need everybody to release their fear from their brains, get rid of their masks, go hug people and absolutely say no. Wake up your community.”

I saw the clip, which I think shows the true emotions of most anti-vaxxers. I think there is so much (justified) fear and change to normal life, that it makes sense that if you have these people promoting a way to seemingly have some control, scared people will take it. Anti-vax organisations have literally seen this pandemic as a way to increase influence

I get what you're saying here, ultimately women do want the underlying beast who's choosing not to act on that nature. I mean a great example is literally 'beauty and the beast', where she is initially scared of the beasts nature but then sees that he has a more tame side and those dualistic nature's are what sparks her love (despite the whole locking her and her dad up). With modern society every women is most likely attracted to the same thing it's just either they're to naive to know the difference or there are just not enough men with both sides integrated. But generally I get your point, I also think everyone's kinda saying the same thing just in different ways

Ultimately you want it sitting somewhere and growing, stocks and shares are the best way to do this, but read and research in depth to get your head around it. Don't invest until you really understand it, spend at least 2 months researching. Look into doller cost averaging and etfs

If you're talking about in dating terms which I'm guessing you are, it really comes down to who's attractive to the most amount of women, as in who's in the top 10 or 20%. High value denotes a scale of value so high value would have to be in this top bracket percentage. So it includes, financial resources, intelligence, masculine energy, being able to regulate one's emotions, can be good looks and good body. It also includes getting respect from other guys, having good social standing etc. In a nutshell girls want him and guys want to be him

Just watched some of the video, this guy just comes accross as full on scumbag lol

OK look I think I've kinda worked it out, it ties in to @Emerald s points. Women are attracted to strength, dominance etc in a man but if they don't know themselves well or don't understand the difference between good strength and toxic strength they can end up in toxic relationships with strong men. But the point is the strength part is a big factor and women will select on that initially and hope all falls in place later. On the other side, men tend to choose based on looks and again if they don't know themselves and don't have boundaries etc they can get into a toxic relationship as well. It's the sane thing they're selecting (the relationship) on a looks basis and hoping everything falls into place later.

There's no guy thats on the look at for a bitchy girlfriend. If a hot girl happens to be bitchy, she'll get a partner just on the basis of her looks and the guy will put up with it. If she's not good looking she's probably quite manipulative or dates guys she thinks are soft. If the guy has any self-esteem, boundaries or is of decent value and knows his value, he will not put up with bitchy, although he prob would have sex with them. Also a normal girl can turn bitchy toward the guy if she loses respect for the guy for whatever reason and doesn't break up.

I agree but this is not very clear as you say. Also they do tend to lie to themselves about what attracts them and maybe justify them being with a toxic, strong man. A good example is if a guy asked a women for advice on how to good with women, majority will say 'be nice, be respectful, be a gentleman', when in reality if you look at the womans previous partners, most likely they were none of what she advised was attractive.

Not saying Leo is 100% correct, but it is a common theme that some women will be adamant that theyre not attracted to someone and then they end up sleeping with them, or they say i dont like this type of person but end of with that type of person. Most romantic films literally start off with the woman not liking the arrogant, but good natured guy and then they end up with him and its 'true love'. This is a constant trope in media which is mostly consumed by women. Also if you ask what some women look for in a guy and then you get the attributes of their previous partners, the two are rarely matching. Im not saying women cant contemplate what attracts them, of course they can and if any women would they should include those on the forum. But most women dont, also im not saying men do either its just its far more simpler for them, but even then they probably dont know the root of it.

I've been meaning to buy the course, could do with one more inch

It can be, but mostly it's how women want people to think that they think

Yeah its definitely tied to that but it doesnt change the fact that there isnt a mainstream male voice and there are several female ones. It wouldnt be so bad but the advice they give is usually terrible and panders to women, which could be a factor in why, some, female standards are so high. I wouldnt say they have little stakes in social dynamics, these are shows with literally millions of viewers everyday, these shows essentially shape peoples perception of the world, as with all mainstream media. Well apparently Genghis was the man and had a crazy lay count

Its true though, theres a number of serial killers that have many female fans, wasnt the boston bomber some kind of idol. You also get the phenomenon of women who write to convicts in prison to try and strike up a relationship

The problem is so many women are dysfunctional and so are attracted to this, so a lot of guys emulate this because they would do whatever they think is attractive to women. Also i you can still get women by putting on a persona, its a lot easier to do that than work on yourself and become a healthy strong man, especially when you have dysfunction yourself. People are always going to go for the easy option. But yes developing into a healthy, strong man is what men should be encouraged to do.

Haha well its good to a wide a wide variety of cultures, must give you an interesting perspective. Yes those shows are very female perspective talk shows, a lot of their topics are specifically about their opinions on men, ill post an example below. The male fronted shows that you mentioned are light entertainment or political shows, the equivalent would be something like Samantha Bee or Michelle Wolff which are also political shows but not necessarily giving an opinion on specific female issues or dating or anything like that. They may have masculine traits but its not a male perspective, many of the views are definitely not how a man would see things, either way its not a good source of male advice for boys and men watching. To save you a google search you wont find any similar male perspective shows, you will on youtube however, but its almost underground and doesnt feel like the views would be accepted in mainstream, there is also a lot of toxicity as its not mainstream. Heres the example - By the way imagine this clip with the roles reversed and men saying what they want to hear from women and how women should act on mainstream tv, whilst there being only 3 women in the audience to give their opinion under pressure. You wont see it

It is produced by men but it tends to be consumed more by women, at least when it comes to opinion shows and talk shows. Men as producers will still look at whats making them the most money and go with that. But i agree it both the female and masculine viewpoint need an equal platform. I dont believe its as you say that there are many shows that let men speak their truth freely to a mainstream audience but im happy to be corrected on it. In the UK we have Loose women, This Morning, Lorraine, in the USA theres the Real, The View, Wendy Williams, even the male talk show hosts like Steve Harvey and Dr Phil are usually skew toward a female point of view. All these shows the women can talk about how they truly feel and they are specifically female issues from a female point of view, so im not talking about shows like Jimmy fallon or Corden as these are entertainment shows they are not specific to male issues in the same way the female led shows ive mentioned are. So with that in mind can you name five or so male hosted shows that specifically talk about male issues in a free way, the male equivalent of the View for example?