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Its framed as a kinda gotcha where the catch the exec on camera under false pretences but its interesting to hear an unfiltered inside perspective on free speech and Elon Musk. Its basically what i expected them to feel about it. Its also funny how aware he is of how people can get like how he did Thoughts? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZLdAgHj-zg

I really try and steelman the free speech absolutist but I just think they havent fully understood the implications of what complete free speech would actually be, a in it just just wouldnt work. What people tend to mean is that i want freedom to say what i want and i have the best intentions to respect others freedom, but that is until of course others say something theyre strongly against.

The below is not my post, its taken from a comment from /Bitcoin reddit, Ill put a link at the bottom. I've never really understand the use of NFTs and i think a lot of people could end up losing money with them, I know some personally that have, so you know be careful out there - "I'm going to take a moment to talk about NFTs since I see people in here talking and arguing about them. NFTs have some actual use cases, but what people are currently doing with them on altcoin platforms is not one of them. Below I will explain how the NFTs on altcoin platforms work on a technical level and I will explain why they probably wont even exist in 10 years. I will also explain why some of these NFTs are selling for such high prices. Many of those NFTs that were sold for crazy high prices were not actually sold to other people. The person who bought those expensive NFTs is often the same person who minted the NFT in the first place. I will explain how whales can easily own very expensive rare NFTs for very little cost. They can just mint an NFT and sell it to them self for $500,000 worth of etһ. They will only lose the small percentage that the NFT marketplace takes and now they own a super rare NFT worth $500k and they will still have most of their etһ because they sold the NFT to them self. And there is a small chance that they might be able to to sell that worthless NFT to some fool who believes that it is actually valuable. Doing this also entices more newbies to mint NFTs in the hopes of getting rich. Some people are now using flash loans to borrow large amounts of etһ so that they can purchase their own NFTs for extremely high prices and then they pay back the flash loan all in the same block. https://www.theblockcrypto.com/post/122516/how-a-cunning-trick-made-it-look-like-a-cryptopunk-sold-for-532-million Here is another example that can be done. You can mint an NFT and sell it to yourself for $1000, then put it up for sale and buy it from yourself again for $1500, and sell it to yourself another time for $2200. Now you can put this appreciating NFT up for sale and try to sell it to some fool who sees it keeps getting sold for more and thinks that it must be valuable. Have you seen celebrities buying NFTs like jpegs of bored apes for hundreds of thousands of dollars? Platforms like MoonPay are paying those celebrities to claim that they bought those NFTs. Those celebrities didn't really pay anything for those NFTs. Those celebrities actually got paid for receiving those NFTs. You can often look at the blockchain and see that the etһ that was used to buy the NFT came directly from a platform like MoonPay, as is the case with the bored ape NFTs that Post Malone recently "bought for $700k+" The current NFTs are useful for something. These NFTs are a useful tool for laundering illegally acquired cryptocurrency. Criminals can shift around their ill gotten crypto between different tokens, mint an NFT, and purchase their own NFT with their dirty crypto. Now they've cleaned their dirty crypto and they also own a rare NFT that's supposedly worth a lot of money. I mean just look at how much it sold for! It costs anywhere from $100-$600+ to mint an NFT on etһereum depending on the current gas fees and where you mint it. So they're hyping shitcoiners/artists/anyone up and luring them into minting crap in the hopes of getting rich and NFTs are doing a great job of that at the moment. People are spending millions of dollars worth of etһereum minting NFTs hoping to hit the NFT lottery and get rich. All these NFT tokens being sold on etһereum right now either point to a URL on the internet, or an IPFS hash. In most circumstances they reference an IPFS gateway on the internet run by the same startup that sold the NFT. That URL also isn't the media. That URL is a JSON metadata file. The owners of the servers have no obligation to continue storing the media. Now let's take a look at a couple of real NFTs and see how they work on a technical level. https://niftygateway.com/itemdetail/primary/0x12f28e2106ce8fd8464885b80ea865e98b465149/1 This NFT token is for this JSON file hosted directly on Nifty's servers as shown below: https://api.niftygateway.com/beeple/100010001/ That file refers to the actual media that was "bought." Which in this case is hosted by Cloudinary CDN, which is served by Nifty's servers again. So if Nifty goes bust, this token is now worthless. It refers to nothing and this can't be changed. Now we'll take a look at the $69,346,250 Beeple, sold by Christies. It's so expensive. Surely it isn't centralized, right? Wrong, it's pointless: https://onlineonly.christies.com/s/beeple-first-5000-days/beeple-b-1981-1/112924 That NFT token refers directly to an IPFS hash. We can take that IPFS hash and fetch the JSON metadata using a public gateway: https://ipfs.io/ipfs/QmPAg1mjxcEQPPtqsLoEcauVedaeMH81WXDPvPx3VC5zUz So well done for referring to IPFS, it references the specific file rather than a URL that might break! But the metadata links to: https://ipfsgateway.makersplace.com/ipfs/QmXkxpwAHCtDXbbZHUwqtFucG1RMS6T87vi1CdvadfL7qA This is an IPFS gateway run by http://makersplace.com, the same NFT minting startup which will go bust one day. You might say "just refer to the IPFS hash in both places!" But IPFS only serves files as long as a node in the IPFS network intentionally keeps hosting it. Which means when the startup who sold you the NFT goes bust, the files will probably vanish from IPFS too. This is already happening. There are already NFTs with IPFS resources that are no longer hosted anywhere. And just pinning the file on your own IPFS node also wont work because the metadata file generally points to a specific HTTP IPFS gateway URL and not the IPFS hash. This means that when the gateway operator goes bust, I can buy the domain and start serving dick pics lol Right now NFT's are built on an absolute house of cards constructed by the people selling them, and it is likely that every NFT sold on etһereum so far will be broken within a decade. This creates a pretty solid exit plan for makertplace if they run into financial problems. The people who own the these useless NFTs "worth" millions of dollars are going to be pretty motivated to buy the site or fund it. Or someone can buy the bankrupt startup domains and start charging NFT owners to serve their files." https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/rqg0fh/forgive_me/

Wouldve posted Patrice, hes your favourite comedians favourite comedian and i dont think youll get a more honest comedian or person for that matter. This interview cracks me up, he rips the poor guy to shreds

Nah i dont think Brazil are the same as back in the day, too much reliance on Neymar at the moment and hes not really a great leader. I think Spain actually looked great in the Euros and were unlucky not to win it, so I'd say them and France are most likely the favourites, Benzemas playing the football of his life this season but he whole squads top level. Argentina might do something and then for an outside team im gonna go for Uruguay

Dodging bullets like Neo! Glad you got out unscathed, I would say in general investing doesnt have to be a waste of time and energy, for me personally i just have highly diversified funds and put money in every month on auto pilot, I am down a like 8% but not really putting much attention to it I get where youre coming from with some of your points, ultimately youre choosing to make this gamble and youre aware of the downside so that is up to you. Part of the reason I never really liked crypto is the volatility, I dont think i could sit comfortably knowing that at any moment half my investment could be wiped out and thats really enough to put me off. As @ZzzleepingBear said I think you are mis-defining what a pyramid scheme is, as humans we need trade so if I want petrol (as we say in the UK) in my car or food in my stomach, I have to do a deal with someone and what im paying for is not only the food but everything in that supply chain, so thats included in the price but then also, the market depends on what people are willing to pay for it. Either way they are getting something that they consider valuable and worth using what they worked for to pay for that. In a pyramid scheme the value is mainly based on speculation and the idea that you can sell whatever it is to someone else for a higher price. So in the example of bitcoin, it has no inherent value as in theres no use for it, everyone literally only wants it because they think they can sell it to someone else for more. What you described with the other commodities is just how markets work, yes theyre not perfect and companies will try and maximise their returns and there are many entities on the supply chain, but ultimately they are providing something use to people who need/want it. You could argue Gold functions similar to bitcoin which wouldnt be completely wrong, but the key difference is that gold is used in the world, in jewellery, wires etc. Also there is a history with gold that spans centuries, that doesnt necessarily mean it will always be worth something but the foundation it has would give me at least more confidence that its not just going to go to zero. So I would maintain that crypto is mostly a pyramid scheme in a way thats very different to other commodities.

Not posting to gloat, genuinely feel for anyone that lost money in the last week or so, the Luna drop was insane. But Im just curious where people are at with crypto now, have you given up? Are you going to put more money in and double down? Have any opinions changed?

The UK, where I'm from, does a lot of the things you mentioned, including giving free gym memberships. In fact here's a breakdown of what they do and the scale of the problem - https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/health-matters-obesity-and-the-food-environment/health-matters-obesity-and-the-food-environment--2 Obesity is still a massive problem here, people actually protested when they reduced the sugar in soft drinks. Point is the government can only do so much to get people to make the right choices for themselves let alone others especially when disinformation is so prevalent. I'm not really for any mandates but I'm also not for disinformation and conspiracy theories actively clouding people's judgement. I can also understand why a work place might require their workers to get a vaccine if it affects the workplace.

Interesting video from Rebel Wisdom, one of the speakers talks about a test facebook group 'Monster Island' that had zero moderation. Quite relevant to a lot of the topics that pop up on this forum - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nNk7fvxiGM This is the original Monster Island article - https://www.skeptic.org.uk/2020/10/monster-island-free-speech-experiment/

I'd be happy for them to mandate exercise I just don't see how it could work in practise. Like if someone really doesn't want to work out how would you get them to do it? Would they lose their job if they don't work out, how would that help anyone? Would you track the amount of hours per week? The amount of money it would cost just to enforce, you could put that into the health sustem. It just seems a lot of work and restrictions vs a vaccine which is literally 5 mins of your time, much more easy to mandate.

Another way to look at it is, society was completely free and the natural order of things brought us to where we are now, so our society now is the product of what happens when given complete freedom

We have a good idea, if you read the article posted in my first post it talks about an unmoderated forum a guy ran as an experiment for 4 years

I think the key thing with vaccine and the pandemic is that its a community issue and can affect many people, so thats the intention if there are mandates, which seem to only come into play when a person is in a community. For example if you work in a hospital you may have to take one or lose your job but this is specifically because you have to be around other people who may have underlying health conditions. If you live in the woods or just have a job that doesnt have much interaction with others then no ones going to force you. This is very different to abortion which only affects the mother and unborn child. People also say things like 'why arent we mandated to eat healthy or exercise?', again this doesnt affect others. The government generally give you suggestions (not the best) on how to be healthier but they cant really mandate things that only affect you. So there has to be a hard distinction between these two things. Regarding whether abortion should be allowed as is said above you have to draw the line on where life starts, i think its a difficult thing to do, what i will say just to throw something in there, is that its very possible that parents who dont want kids but are forced to could actually cause the kid more suffering but not giving the kid the love and attention they need. This was talked about in the book Freakonomics where they gave an example of the abortion being made legal in a particular city and the crime rate dropping 15-20 years later. So you could make the argument that unwanted kids actually suffer more and cause more suffering.

The Internet is basically lots of tiny vacuums that suck radicals into it. They then become more moderated as the audience grows in which case radicals are pushed out or leave to find another tiny corner where their views can be tolerated. Large websites can only occur because of moderation. If a website 'stays true' and has minimal moderation it usually stays a tiny corner. If no moderation truly worked on a large scale you would have a massive site that has no moderation already in existence, you can't really backtrack and take a site that got big with moderation and then take that moderation away. It's like taking the safety features out of a car once everyone's bought it because its safe.

I think everyone probably feels the same to some extent. The key I think is the awareness around it and ultimately that's what we're all trying to do, become more aware. So if you post with this awareness you're posts become more authentic and then its easier to accept when others don't validate you because you are just being true to yourself.

Not at the moment but it's definitely an interesting topic and one I'll probably go in depth on, I'm looking to do some videos on a few different subjects so I'll keep you posted on it. Edit: actually I do have one talking about whether paying for an online course is a good idea, but tbh I want to update a lot of the content so I may have a different take on it now but have a listen anyway - https://soundcloud.app.goo.gl/VckhK

I actually feel quite sorry for him, you can feel the pain behind what he saying in terms of looking for someone to blame for censoring him. The key thing as you say is that hes not accepted that his previous teaching could be harmful for women, there could be the argument that its a net positive as it does help guys and he was kinda getting them into spirituality and trauma release etc, but the problem was the whole pick up scene was so toxic. Its interesting how the brain works as he probably cant confront that reality so the only other avenue is this meta narrative. The problem is it doesnt at all solve the problems of free speech and this marketplace of ideas simply doesnt work, as has been proved with the pandemic and trumpism and other things, it doesnt take into account how strong the fear response is and how easily that can be manipulated to cause real world consequences.

Interesting insight and i guess you know him a little bit but it makes sense. I agree i dont think hes doing it for money but i think it would be hard to not be aware that when he talks about conspiracy orientated topics he gets more views, at the very least he will try not to alienate his audience that do believe in that stuff. For example in a recent video i watched he was talking about the will smith slap and he was very charitable to it being a set up although he didnt think it was, it jus struck me that although his point was the opposite of the conspiracy take, he still had to appease that side of his audience. Also i get the impression with him that he does want to get to almost Tony Robbins levels, that seems to be the goal and to get there so it would be hard to not take all these conspiracy fans with him. Having said that i think he does have excellent insights in terms of social and spiritual and i think its great that he can put those two together, because thats not often done. I just dont think he realises how these wild ideas affect his credibility.

Yeah i think its similar to how a lot of youtubers became right wing and trumpists, theres certain audiences that just yield better fruit in terms views and then money, although the money might not be important. If you think Rupert Spira is one of the most respected non-duality teachers in the world right now but only has 152k subs with around 20k-40k views per video. Compare that to Russell Brand who has 5.5 million subs and gets literally millions of views per video, add to that his channel blew up only when he started doing conspiracy content during the pandemic ( https://socialblade.com/youtube/channel/UCswH8ovgUp5Bdg-0_JTYFNw/monthly ) for a few years before it was growing slowly. His own spiritually focused channel has not seen anywhere near the growth of his main, now conspiracy orientated channel. So I think its interesting how easy it is to get drawn into whats selling, theres a huge incentive for Owen to lean into conspiracy stuff because his audience is susceptible to it, the way he talks sometimes is almost like he doesnt believe some of the stuff but he also doesnt want to condemn or say its stupid because he knows that a deal breaker for his viewers. This is the same with Brand, he'll say something like 'whatever your theory is on the vaccine...'. They may say that they have to do that just to get more viewers and once they get them in they can give them very important information, but im not so sure i think playing into it actually makes the viewers focus more on the conspiracy stuff as now this person they respect is kind of agreeing with them. Also its a good analogy for revolution, you can say that Brand & Owen are constantly screaming for one, but now that they have some power in terms of their audience, theyre very quick to manipulate this audience by playing into their audiences fears and getting them more engaged in this way, essentially doing what they criticised the mainstream media of doing, so this revolution of media is the same but not regulated.

It's sad that you see that as an attack

Do you ever question why you get into conflict with a lot of people on here?

You didn't do anything wrong bro, if you give advice the person has to be receptive to it, it's not on you how people take that. There's a difference between attacking someone and giving an uncomfortable truth

Good insights, keep em coming!

OK no worries, I'll take that answer, genuinely wish you the best with connecting with people x

Yes true but its not your job to fix people and if it was its very difficult. Also in a sense they don't really matter because we don't know them, we know you and are trying to help you, so in that way we can only advise you on how to grow and improve yourself. If you want us to condemn these people even if it is valid, that we have no context, for we can do that but I'm not sure it will help you. My question would be do you want advise on where you can grow or improve or do you want us to agree with you on the traumas of these other people?