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If you accept that the loverboy method is illegal, which you kinda have to since it is illegal then you would have to see that he's guilty. He literally did a course on pimping using that method and we know he had a webcam biz with nearly 100 girls, most of which he bragged about getting into the sex industry for the first time. The only way he could get off is if he was lying or heavily exaggerating about the method he said he used, which is pretty unlikely. But even if that was the case you can't blame them for going after him, if I was bragging about killing people but never killed anyone, obviously the law would come after me. But with Tate the results of his bragging are there so I don't really get his argument. What's funny is that he definitely would've gotten away with it if he hadn't created a course on pimping and bragged about his illegal activities. I actually can't believe how dumb a move that is for someone who's a self identified genius

Loverboy method carries a max 10 year sentence, i reckon he'll get at least a couple of years, thats my prediction but we'll see

I get that he's entertaining and he presents a lifestyle and confidence that I guess a lot of young men aspire to, but I don't get the points about his great advice that he gives out. People always talk about his workout advice, it's literally terrible advice, he says eat fast food and whatever you want and work out for 20 mins a day. His dating advice probably could get you women short term but it's actually detrimental for serious relationships and even that advice relies on you being uber confident, which if you were you wouldn't need his advice in the first place.

Just posted a new video for anyone struggling with how to accept OCD thoughts

Essentially yes you should ignore it and it will go, but i think if you start thinking about how to get in charge of your mind you can get into rumination and a kind of tug of war for your mind. Yeah i was thinking about this today, essentially OCD is a tactic used by your brain to help with your survival. From the fear reaction you give you are alerting your brain that these thoughts are extremely important and as such it gives you more of these thoughts which then confirm the importance of these thoughts from the fear reaction you give it. On and on it goes in this cycle, but ultimately its the brains strategy for survival. Being aware of this can help and then you have to do the hard work of acceptance and not reacting or doing compulsions. But yes great observation

If you say facts over feelings it gives the implication that you are completely unbiased and are able to take raw data and come to factual conclusions. As you can probably extrapolate this does not work, for one youd have to know every fact and every piece of data on the subject, then youd have to be able to weigh up all this information and come to a conclusion. Even if you did manage to do this you wouldnt be able to say that whatever conclusion you came to is definitive because new information could come about at any time. Even the studies that you might incorporate into your analysis are based on hypothesis which are based on the researchers feeling that something might be true or not and then that is proven either way, but there will be lots more hypotheses that may not be tested. I find people use it because they cherry pick one or some statistics that back their own 'feeling' about a particular subject of which they had already come to the conclusion on before finding out about the fact. The truth is oftentimes messy and not as easy as 'this is true because there are facts about it'. The statement is very simplistic and promotes black and white thinking without due regard for the obvious nuance in every subject.

Basically he didn't want to concede that it was bad advise to tell young men to get a vasectomy. If he said his definition of a hvm everyone would've just said that you can get that without having to make the cut, you can just wear condoms or even abstain from sex. If he had just said he was exaggerating for effect and he wouldn't actually advise men to do that, he would've been OK but he couldn't do it. He also tried to say it wasn't advice, but the context of the tweet was just 8 ways to become a hvm so I don't see how it couldn't be interpreted as advice. Even if it wasn't his intention, surely he should be aware that there are young men that follow him and treat his books like bibles who would definitely take it as advice. Myron and Fresh also couldn't say that it's not good advice because their whole channel is based on his teachings, if he's wrong about this it means he could be wrong about other things. I think between this and the pearly things girl the red pill will soon start crumbling. It is funny that Destiny who a lot of them would look at as a beta cuck is the catalyst for it as well.

Rollo took a heavy L in this one, he barely could make a point and you can feel the anger and ego in his voice, to resort to ad hominums and name calling was just pathetic. The problem with redpill as demonstrated by Rollo in this clip, is that it just comes from pain and rejection mixed with some entitlement. There are some truths mixed in but guys are looking to make careers and get status off the back of it and it's really not that deep its just a few ideas that run counter to the mainstream. It's now firmly postioned opposite the extreme feminism side of the coin

He's an 8th level scientologist as well FYI. What these type of influencers do is basically extract as much money as they can from you by making themselves seem extremely high valuable and you very low but they seemingly offer you hope to get to where they are if you pay them money, but guaranteed most of his money comes from these people. There's also a distinction with finance influencers who just give advice, some have their own set of issues but in general they don't have the same model as someone like cardone

It sounds like fearful avoidant, I know because I have that attachment style as well. A big part is to do with identifying relationships with a loss of your autonomy because that's how you experienced early relationships with care givers. It's like you couldn't rely on your care givers for whatever reason and became independent, so it feels like if you get in a relationship you would be surrendering this independence for something you can't rely on. I'm still learning about it myself, I always wanted to find a way out of relationships when I was in one and I never really let our lives get intertwined. Hopefully a more secure style can be worked toward. I think you should definitely research about it and try and get some therapy with a therapist that knows about attachment theory.

Hey I just posted this video on YouTube about letting go of ocd thoughts, hopefully it helps someone

With any idea that can be taken as hierarchical obviously people may take offence if they see themselves at the lower parts, but that doesn't mean the concept is not valid or closer to reality. For example if you time travelled back to aztec times with the ideas that are common place in our time, the aztecs won't think you're advanced, they will most likely think you're crazy and sacrifice you but that doesn't mean that you're not more advanced than them. This happened a lot with Greek philoshopers who were executed for their advanced ideas many of which we still hold in high regard today, which would suggest they were more advanced than their fellow citizens. Spiral dynamics was actually developed and used to help groups of people at different levels to work together and find a way to bridge differences, it wasn't designed for people to be able to feel superior to others. But of course humans will use it for this as hierarchy is still important to us especially stages below yellow. The problem is I don't see how you can create a model that doesn't have some kind of ascension model, how would that look? At its bare bones SD is just a widening perspective of your integration of the world. At a starting point you may be self-centric then you move to ethno-centric, then world- centric, then universe-centric. Someone at self-centric may argue that his perspective is just as important as someone at world-centric but that's only because he can only see his perspective. The world-centric perspective also incorporates the self-centric so it's just a wider view.

I've been watching a few youtube videos and reading some articles about this and it hits the nail on the head for me. I actually shed a tear because its so sad what little me and little others that have this attachment style go through without even knowing whats going on. Just watching a video now the creator was talking about how you go through these cycles of on and off relationships, you never know if the persons right for you because you feel that you cant trust relationships although you really need them, mainly due to childhood neglect and not feeling safe as a child. All this time ive tried to deal with it by just having a mindset of 'i want to be free and independent', for a while I even thought guys in committed relationships were kinda losers because they were trapped. Its weird because i always wanted to be alone but not really a fuckboy and when i am alone for a while i really make an effort to get female company, then once they like me i become avoidant it just keeps going round and round. Anyway does anyone else relate and have any tips? It just feels like such an uphill struggle at the moment

The issue for fox is reputational damage, but no one really takes them seriously that doesn't watch them anyway and for those that do watch them they're not covering the story themselves so unless the viewers are consuming different news which I doubt, then I don't think they'd be affected.

Hey guys, I got asked by an OCD charity to tell my story about what i went through, so the transcript is below but if you want to see it on their page with pictures and stuff check the link - https://www.orchardocd.org/biyis-ocd-story/ In this week’s blog Biyi shares his OCD story: OCD is oftentimes seen as an interesting personality quirk, someone who just likes things organised or spends a bit longer cleaning up their kitchen. When I was a child I probably would’ve thought the same way, at least when my mind wasn’t dominated by intrusive thoughts that made me constantly question my very identity. Looking back now I know I had some form of OCD from probably around the age 5 or 6. My first memory of it was being in primary school, as it was a boys school we usually played quite rough taking the our inspiration from WWF. This day we played cops and robbers, as I aggressively threw my ‘robber’ into prison he hit his head on a rock and blood started to trickle down. He had to be taken out of school for the day so I faced 24 hours of not knowing what happened to my friend. In my mind I had killed him and a started playing out all the possible scenarios that could happen, ‘will I face the ironic fate of being the play cop that would now have to go prison’, ‘what about his family, what if he dies’. These thoughts were with me for the whole 24 hours, I couldn’t stop thinking about it, I felt shame and guilt, ‘why did I have to be so rough?’, ‘Am I evil?’, I repeatedly asked myself these questions. My mum noticed my distress because the next day she came with me to the headmaster’s office to find out what happened to my friend. The headmaster told us there was nothing to worry about, he was fine, just had to wear a bandage for a couple days but he’ll be back at school today. ‘Phew’ I felt relief in that moment but this was only the start of a 30-year struggle with these thoughts. The themes changed over the years, when I was young it was more about the fear of getting in trouble as I got older it evolved into thoughts about myself image, I felt my chest was too big at one point which even led to me calling a plastic surgeon at the age of 14. Then they finally settled on this unshakable thought that I was gay, from the moment I woke up till I went to sleep this thought would always be in the back of my head. Even when it was quiet it felt like it was there, almost like a predator waiting for me to engage with it. What I now know kept it going, was the energy I gave it, I would constantly try and ‘get rid’ of the thought. I would ruminate constantly, try and outsmart it, use logic with myself, this resulted in battles every day of my life in my mind. These battles made my external life worse. One of my theories about OCD is that it can strike you when you don’t know how to deal with life, when you feel out of control. As a young boy growing up in South London without a good support system I felt completely out of control. OCD almost gives you something to focus on, but it’s like doing a deal with the devil. It causes so much pain with the promise of ‘if I can just work this thought out everything will be ok’, Its never OK, even if you do drop a specific thought another thought is following right after just like buses. The worst feeling is feeling alone and that no one will understand you. In my head I was gay, I was just fooling myself that I wasn’t. I would look at males and try and work out if I was attracted to them and then I would look at females and think ‘I’m not attracted enough to them’. It was constant, I would look online for answers, trawling through forums, asking whether you could just be gay all of a sudden. I wanted a solution, I just wanted to know either way, but no answer was ever satisfying. A couple times I considered just coming out, but that never made sense because I didn’t actually want to be with a man, I’d never fantasised about a man but that made it even more confusing as to why I thought I might be gay, this argument between me and the OCD thoughts would go on and on indefinitely never actually coming to a satisfying conclusion. One person I did confide in was my girlfriend at the time and although she didn’t understand it and it made no sense to her, she was very supportive and did try to understand which actually helped me a lot just to be able to get some of this stuff out of my head. Eventually, I worked out this must be OCD after looking online. I felt relief hearing others stories because it was exactly my experience. Just knowing didn’t stop the thoughts but it did give me an important perspective. I learnt that this was something that can be improved and worked on, and my choices were basically give up or do the work and try and get myself out of this, no one was coming to save me I said to myself. So, I signed up for CBT on the NHS. It took a little while, if I remember correctly about 6 months on the NHS waiting list but eventually I was offered 10 sessions with a local CBT therapist. She taught me how to deal with thoughts but even in these sessions I never actually talked about the theme, I still couldn’t do it, which shows the hold OCD had on me. It took until the very last session where I knew I hadn’t tackled my theme and I had to tell the therapist because it was no or never, so I took a deep breath and most likely mumbled that I thought I might have OCD and that the theme was worrying about being gay. I watched for her reaction, maybe she would say ‘of course you’re gay that makes sense’ or maybe she would try and hide her reaction because it was true. Her actual reaction was kind of no reaction, she just seemed to understand what I was saying and let me know that I could have further sessions if I needed. I took her up on this and had 6 more sessions that revolved around the theme. Straight I felt relief as I could actually be honest with how I felt, in a way I almost felt like someone who was actually in the closet and had this huge secret to hide because I felt that I couldn’t tell this to anyone. Probably being open about my thoughts helped more than the actual sessions but they were helpful nonetheless and set a good foundation for my recovery. Over the next few years I would oscillate between intense anxiety and relative calmness. I became a student of OCD and read books, watched YouTube videos and documentaries about it, I wanted to know everything, mostly because I felt that would be the way out for me. I tried to install good habits, like exercise, good diet, speaking to friends and family more. When I was 25 I got diagnosed with ulcerative colitis, which is an auto-immune disease where your immune system attacks your colon as it sees it as a threat. This made life very difficult and gave me almost an excuse to not do anything, I could probably claim benefits and just avoid everything and everyone and have a good, justifiable, reason. My belief, although the doctors can’t confirm or deny, is that the illness was brought on by stress and most likely bad diet. With UC there would be times when it would flare up and be severe, some of the symptoms were not being able to digest food, bleeding when going to the toilet, extreme diarrhoea, fatigue, all in all you just feel terrible. There was an occasion where I lost about 20kg in two weeks, which was nearly a quarter of my body weight. Luckily, I got put on a medication a few years in that basically put me into remission, but having UC and OCD was really tough but I didn’t want either to beat me, especially not the OCD. This could be because I had already gone so far in the journey that I just needed to look at root causes and have someone else’s perspective on the whole thing. Through this therapy I realised that I had never vocalised a lot of how my childhood was or even how I was internally. I’d always had a shield around all of that, so to actually get all that out felt cathartic. I realised that the OCD had developed as almost a protector of my internal self or child self. As long as I was focused on the OCD I wasn’t focused on how bad and out of control I felt inside. I had not learnt how to accept and honour my feelings, everything was about how I needed to change. This was so key for me because ultimately you can’t cure OCD, the same way you can’t ‘cure’ your thoughts. What you can do is learn how to accept every thought and feeling that arises within you and this is the journey I took even though up until being confronted with it, I didn’t know I was on the journey. Now I do occasionally get thoughts but I know that they will just come and go I don’t hold any importance to them. When somethings not there you don’t tend to dwell on it, it’s kind of like if you have the flu it’s all you can focus on but once it’s gone you don’t really think about it. But I do like to think every so often about how grateful I am that I had this journey and how much improved I am than before. Also, I really want to help others who are going through a similar story and let them know how my journey was and that there light at the end of the tunnel. Because when you’re in that tunnel it can just feel like all there is, is darkness.

Although I think Leos teachings are very deep and very important as not many teachers delve into topics as much as him, Im always a little hesitant to suggest him to others because when I have people have just not resonated with him or flat out not liked him (of course they are only going off initial impressions and havent gone deeper). But i always wondered why this is. recently I watched the happiness video and Leo was talking about music he likes to listen to when going for drives, out of nowhere he said something like 'I have the best music, the best playlists, no one has playlists like these'. I laughed because its such a strange statement to make, it reminded me of a kid talking about some random thing that makes him great. For one, music is so subjective, what would even constitute you having the 'best' playlist? But i realised this is how he talks across the board so if hes talking about awakening, hes the most awakened, whatever it is hes the most fill in the blank. It doesnt really take into account other peoples experiences and also leaves the viewer with the wonder of 'why is he so awakened?'. This is fine if the audience can kind of tune that, for lack of a better word, arrogance out, which i do, it can also seem like someone to follow if youre a bit younger because of the certainty he talks with. But I think it can turn a lot of people off at face value because it just comes across as completely arrogant. Leo might say, 'well its true no ones awakening is as great as mine and im not going to sugar coat anything anymore', which is fine but then i dont really understand the goal of the teachings, like why does it even matter how awakened you are, its more about what you can do in service to others and if youre putting off a big chunk of the audience that this could potentially help, then what even is the point, apart from ego? Im not saying Leo should change, its his journey and hes built this platform up amazingly, but i think having some humility as a counter balance is very important and not humility for show but genuine 'maybe im not the most intelligent/awakened being in the history of man' type of humility.

This has been my experience, in that the more you try and 'cure' ie stop your thoughts the stronger they get so, when I switched to complete acceptance of them their power had less of a hold on me. Thanks for reading and your kind words as well x

Let's not get too stuck up on the music thing lol I was just using it as an example. Tbh the arrogance doesn't bother me I actually find it kinda funny, but as I said in the original post it's more a case of his core teachings and messages not being able to travel as far as they could without the arrogance. Its kinda like if he is arrogant and overstating about little things like a music playlist it's more than likely he would overstate with awakening. If I was in his position I at least would like to think I would want things like this pointed out to me.

I get where you're coming from, but then there's still his assumption that his reality is correct and everyone else's isn't. If there was some humility this wouldn't be the case. I agree that in the world now you are somewhat competing against other realities if you're producing this kind of content, but I think Leo's consciousness level should be above this 'competition' and I actually I believe it is and so it follows that this wouldn't be about competition, it just seems to be a personality thing or a teaching style. Of course this is speculation on top of your speculation lol

OK found it, it's at 1:46:00 To be fair it's not as bad as I first thought, he says about the playlist and I think what I reacted to was when he said 'nobody has these playlists'. Which I still think is quite a funny thing to say because you can still interpret as him saying hes special. We could also be charitable and take it as him saying because he's curated them himself noone else has them, which it could be but I do think in general he does say a lot of things in this arrogant way.

Need a timestamp lol but I remember it as 'no one has playlists like these' something like that

When I say risk I don't mean business risk of it not working, I mean the risk of going to prison or being killed.

@StarStruck Here is an interview with a pimp, notice the similarities in mentality between him and Tate -

@StarStruck One thing you can learn from studying Tate is how to manipulate people into doing what you want by giving them what they think they want. There's an autobiography by a pimp called Iceberg Slim, you'll probably recognise a lot of Tates strategies from there. This isn't a shot at Tate, he is genuinely great at manipulating others, he talked about it with pride, how he manipulated guys with cam girls.