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Everything you experience is within your experience. Exactly . I don’t know for now the answer to the rest and I don’t know what would be required to know.

Ok cool. You mention near death experience to prove a point of how consciousness can exist outside the brain right. I’ve had out of body astral projection so I have some experience along those lines. It for sure does put a question on how it all works When it comes to having a brain that sounds a little solipsistic. It’s like “how do you know other have selves just because you have” it’s a valid question but I think it’s silly to assume you’d be the only one with a self. Similarly, you could look at anyone’s brain, why would you think you don’t have one. You can look at your arm and say you got an arm. Just because you can’t see or feel brain doesn’t mean it’s not there. Or actually we can’t know that. If you lose feeling in your arm and move it away from your vision, if we think everything that exists is our direct experience, we could say arm no longer exists until it’s within your sense perceptions

I would point to my head but I can’t pin point it exactly They are sense perceptions from my pov yes, or you could say it’s all appearance

Self is an appearance right. Brain is an appearance too. It seems appearances affect each other . So if you drop a glass on the floor it breaks, the appearance/form of the floor is interacting and affecting the appearance that is the glass , making it break. That’s how it appears. That’s why I say the brain produces the self. The appearance of a self is created by the appearance of a brain I don’t know this, it’s just what I think.

Those things mentioned alter or remove sense of self right ? They all probably involve changes in the brain. I don’t mean that a brain has to have a self : the self could disappear. But it seems the brain is the type of appearance that produces a sense of self, and it doesn’t appear in other objects that’s what I mean by it being tied to the brain What is NRE?

I think for the self to arise there needs to be a structure that can produce that self. And this structure needs to be stable through time to produce a self that is stable through time. And this structure is a brain. And this brain took years of evolution to evolve. So you’re conscious now of reality , and you’re asking why is reality this way, well because it’s in this type of reality that consciousness/self arises, giving you the ability to ask that question

Why can’t sense of self appear in objects? It seems like the sense of self is bound to the brain

I meant isn’t that something that science has been pondering that we don’t know. Whether there is something “behind the scenes” of experience or not. If there is an objective external world (I don’t think so). So when you mention that your sense organs don’t exist outside your experience, I said that we don’t know. But from my experience yes I agree it seems as if everything is what is occurring in my experience

So good written

That I’ve heard too

We don’t know that right

I kinda believe in it

Ok . It’s something to chew on

I mean the word thought and the word feelings are concepts, but to me the experience of a feeling is not a concept, and thoughts can be of images so again not only concepts. But then how much our mind is involved in conceptualizing our experiences/senses might not always be apparent, so some of it could be conceptual too .

Could you say that is why it seems we “skip” deep sleep? Because it’s no experience so it’s like it’s day, then we dream then it’s directly day.

By mental processes stopping do you mean just the thoughts or sense perception too? Because you can have a quiet mind while still having sense perceptions so still having movement = experience

@samijiben Then you’ll have to deal with those insecurities

Maybe it’s true nobody exists so it’s not a trap Theres also experience in the astral realm as the astral body. But I have experienced how the self , the physical self has an affect on the self in the astral realm. So it’s like the brain is the basis for self, so I think

Hard to wrap mind around. I am imagining like a scenario of trying to create complete stillness. Maybe something like a sensory depravation floating tank. But that still couldn’t produce complete stillness, there would be the sensation of heartbeat for example.

In my experience fantasy and mind constructions can be ways to escape uncomfortable feelings in the body, emotions, boredom

Ok . I’d say I agree. Based on some of my own experiences. It’s like a kind of “distance” to the stressful mind activity(or tension in the body, and other ways stress can manifest as) is required , and that “distance” is kind of like an clear awareness of it, which I guess is similar to what you call “being grasped as is happening”. It’s probably hard because we get caught up in the stressful mind activity

Yea some veggies are more common to eat raw and maybe that has some science behind it. Lol the connected video

Good to hear

You meant you “can”?

Thoughts are concepts right? And feelings are triggered by concepts