Sugarcoat

Youre so awake

Ok I see. You said that it's "due to expanded consciousness that can't be controlled", I'm curious what you've learned about that? I've been reflecting on some of these mental health conditions lately, that's why I ask

Ok my bad, I meant something like 40 pages then. I think you guys did a pretty good job keeping it "rational", maybe even too much so, perhaps thats part of the problem (at least there you have something in common with Leo Gura) Sleep schedule also off? lol. That energy stuff just keeps one awake ....(no pun intended)

You seem quite healthy from what Ive read regarding your routines youve shared, so I think it's justified if you do it, but some people in society thooo.....😂

5 meow , maybe you people need something else deep down

Next topic: dissect Bryan Johnson for 50 pages Kind of like feminists discussing “why it’s called fireman not firewoman” that’s the vibe (although the intellectual skills are better here, but that should make someone even more prone to choosing something more worthwhile to discuss, if not, it’s as if the point is more so just “intellectualizing” rather than what’s it’s about) But I’m just saying this for the sake of “opposing” yea sure, I’m not Genuinely in some kind of opposition *tries to edit but nothing hits the spot*

Yea that’s part of it True Unknowingness “Some” so you mean you have even more sailing stories? ok sorry I’m gonna stop now 😂 I just needed this laugh now, I even find humor in the metaphysical talk sometimes but I’ll spare you of that for now.

People are locked into their thing, and there is need to feel good about it in themselves (which necessitates feeling above the other to some degree as you mentioned) so they have to judge something radically different, its threatening to even consider for a second "maybe he is onto something". I see this everywhere What kind of rare breed of therapist you found "doesn't analyze things and only focuses on vibe" hahahahaahahh thats like stoner vibe idk how you getting "chancellor Palpatine" vibe (had to look up what that even is) Also it would be more weird if he understood your situation than not "oceanic trip in winter alone" now its not Christopher Columbus anymore now its some Frankenstein book level stuff I can't...Thats like a level of nervous system stimulation need that ADHD diagnosis can't even capture, not even the celebrities living in luxury every day end up doing that kind of stuff "meditative" , I have no words, you just invented some new category of yogic practice there How tf could you enjoy company if youre being rocked back and forth by waves and you can't hear each other from thunder sound and the wind is blowing her hair in her face so you can't even see her. If some woman rejects you, shes saving her own life right there with that decision 😂 You sound genuine but the experiences youre sharing are so wild (from my pov at least) that no amount of seeming genuine can make me not wonder about the reality of it

hmm. Maybe they just genuinely believe things are that way for them, feeling like they are genuinely trying to describe their experience (in more or less poetic way hahaa). I think there is difference between defense for the sake of maintaining a pleasant sense of self, vs defense because you believe in something genuinely based on experience and accumulated knowledge etc, both can coexist at the same time, but one or the other being more dominant in a person. Basically, is the main drive genuineness or not. I am a little "hmmmmm" sometimes too when someone speaks in non dual way but I just seem to sense so much "person" from them that I cant tell what place they are actually speaking from, but I like that, its mysterious to me

To me it really sounded like you meant the people of the forum because of how the sentence was grammatically structured... That was a really cool read, albeit dark, the story of your father. Since I'm a very health oriented person I thought it just sounded insane that amount of cigarettes and alcohol. That reveals a lot about someone's psyche that they could maintain that. I can't imagine what state he must have been in internally, it's like one of those people that are just incomprehensible to imagine how reality is from their pov. Also I'm a bit puzzled by how those kinds of people are able to maintain a persona that convinces others they are "good". That is some kind of twisted intelligence in them that understands how to play the social games, as if its not only they that are twisted, but its as if their entire psyche beyond their control too, is working together creating this dark person, simplistic description of me but its something Ive started to reflect on recently after observing certain people. It makes sense you "fell for it" when you were young, but the idea that someone like that can convince other adults they are so good, makes me wonder if people have terrible intuition. An extreme example I've thought of is those documentaries about serial killers etc. It's just crazy to me, I can't believe nobody could sense something really off, personally I believe I would be able to if I was close to such person but I have yet to confirm it. Just some related thoughts that came to mind. I can relate to that description of everything seeming "alien and unreal" as a child. I had that too for some time. To me it related to being so deeply "inside my head", literally felt like that. And because of being so "inside", when something dark appears there, it's felt so strongly, and then you want nothing more than breaking the darkness down. Then maybe someone like your father for example, he had darkness inside but his way of dealing with it was manipulating others and substance addictions, a very different type of "self destruction" than what you described about how your mind worked (many meanings to the same words..). I could say so much more, but I can mention how Ive also been close to someone whom it took me time to realize clearly their darkness but I felt "off" from the very beginning. For me it was like, not only did my discernment for people become deeper and better after realizing how dark that person was (its not just me saying it, they spoke about it too, but in different way than how I saw it), but also, most importantly, something grew and connected inside me, and thats a shift that was worth the experience.,.,

Yes thats what I mean. And I think it is a false fear in the way that, if you assume it would be the same as deep sleep, then you can't fear it because the fear would be either you're unsettled by the idea of your current life coming to an end, or the mind is just good at imagination, but even the most vague imagination doesn't represent the "nothingness" itself..

You realize people can use the forum in ways that isn’t centered around Leo’s work?

I meant, in simple words, that it’s funny ~that~ you’re responding not ~what~ you’re responding. I tried to explain simply already in previous reply, it’s chill tho

@Breakingthewall it’s so funny to me how you’re responding , also to other people lately , maybe last year and before I felt you had this “unreachable” vibe that some of you that write this almost exclusively methaphysical stuff give off (from my pov and i know im not only one) . As if you have to have had those same experiences to be able to join in (to understand/relate to each other) or something . I always respond sooner or later when it’s interesting , but maybe what I wrote before makes it obvious why I’m slow

But thats not the impression I get from people talking about their fear of death (people in general). They are talking about this "forever nothingness" that they imagine death to be, to me it doesn't sound like they are particularly focused on the process of dying but just the idea of it all being gone one day is the primary fear. They are attached to their life and it's unsettling to think how it will all end one day. And that's so deceptive to me, it makes zero sense, it's like fearing going to sleep at night (I saw a girl online who had that too). People should be afraid of potential "medieval torture reincarnations" not "forever deep sleep"

Death is when youre dead, the process of dying is a different thing (how I think of it)

Same same same omg it’s so fun when someone speaks a shared opinion And it’s the people who think death is “forever nothing” that are afraid ummmmmmm the idea of forced reincarnating over and over is wayyyyyy worse . People got it backwards

i am so sorry you went through that ❤️ i just woke up from a disturbing dream, so i feel extra sensitive to hearing about this dark stuff in this moment. I’ve thought before how you sound kinda bright to me, so it’s a bit surprising to hear, but I’ve always had an extra open mind for that stuff and not assumed it’s only “deranged” people who can develop those experiences …

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I’m too quick

Must be hard when you rely so much on Leo’s work for your own development that it feels you lose something if people derail from threads a little after having contributed with elaborate discussions page after page 😔

I meant sweeteners as in other products with them not in coffe , because if the coffe gives you stomach issues I guess it would be the same still even if you add something, but you could try who knows but I also don’t like sugar in coffe unless it’s from the coffee shop they have some magic recipes there

I see, many have stomach issues nowadays For me, high sweetness (in particular sweeteners because sugar can feel too heavy in large amounts), give me more of a boost than coffee so I’ve been consuming that for a while because it has helped my state. So I’ll just write it in case it could be of some value

Why you assuming you understand schizophrenia?

Stop projecting French everywhere This is my last comment for you here I have past trauma from that one warning point