Sugarcoat

I think that’s a reasonable mindset

I didn’t know I was an emotion, I thought it was me that notices Maybe that’s why people say “I am happy” 😂

Something that is free is to change your mindset into a better one which can make you happier, and this can be seen as an attitude change partly

You can be devoid of emotion

But for humans happiness tends to arise as response to circumstances in many cases , so you can pursue those circumstances. Many haven’t mastered themselves to the degree to be able to be happy regardless of circumstances

I see those as distinct. Absence of happiness is neutrality not suffering

Even if it’s fleeting it can be worth to pursue

We find it sometimes, sometimes not, sometimes they come, sometimes not.. it’s both

That relief can be felt as happiness! I’ve felt that

Those tend to be emotions people want to avoid, so they don’t seek it out. But technically you could if you seek out situations that trigger it for you, if you know your triggers (we could say it’s still internally generated tho, but we respond to enviroment). It’s a response to a certain triggering situation, like happiness is a response to a different situation. Although its possible to feel happiness for “no reason at all” just existing

Well there is happiness to be found through different approaches. People do it all the time it’s just that it isn’t endless, or permanent, and a lot of the time not very long term either. And the self can be present during happiness (sense of self) in particular when it’s happiness related to the self image, like someone feeling good because they made themselves look attractive

Thanks

It’s funny this summer was first time I was stung by wasp I’ve always been curious how it feels (not bad) so it was kinda fun experience. Shows how you can reframe things in your mind I am conscious of myself, of form, thoughts, a world etc. I am aware of a reality, but it doesn’t say much about the nature of it. Because I’m a little crazy like that, I believe we can’t even prove there’s a real reality at all. I could say that, there is something that has the ability to “appear as if” there is a real reality, but that something could as well be “nothing”. If I wanna go deeper into this (I’m not so focused on awakening in this current phase of my life honestly ) then it would be reasonable to investigate existence, in particular ourself We can sometimes think of happiness like a “wave” of pleasant feeling that comes, but then it passes. But as you say it might be possible to access a more long lasting, “static” happiness . And as you say that’s maybe impossible to fully access when you’re identified as the human self because you’re limited to human psychology I agree, while a human (as the ego) might not be able access that “enlightened bliss”, we can access every day life happiness that can be supported by good habits…

I can be happy and unbothered meanwhile mosquitos sting me, does that mean im enlightened?

@Princess Arabia I love how you often have so much to say, it’s like you are in a flow state when you write 🩷A full mind for a “nobody “ (nobody as in no self, not “loser” lol just gotta clarify)

Good idea. I find I am not knowledgeable enough on these matters

They’ll invent a new category of opponents aside from the far left: self actualizing spiritual freaks

A person could, on their journey of finding happiness, realize what you just said, that relinquishing effort could be exactly the thing that increases their well being and reduces their suffering, so in a sense that is also a kind of approach. Most people who pursue a kind of spirituality/awakening like that go through phases of a lot of seeking before they arrive at no seeking. All of us grow an ego as we grow up so the starting point for all is a place of seeking, and it can take a while to undo that, to come to a place of “no action”

The actualized.org legend is just getting more twisted 😂

Hmm I see how attachment almost always has a backside of suffering The way humans approach the matter of happiness causes suffering. But I believe it’s possible to go about it in a way that reduces suffering and increases happiness, one that is less dependent on specific circumstances

I wonder the same. I simply don’t know enough to know where to stand. But I know I believe killing a bunch of innocents is never justified

There could be the attitude to try to hold onto the happiness once it arises, but if not, then yea you’re right

Trying to find it within you is still a form of seeking it… it’s like seeking packaged in spirituality (nothing wrong with that I think it’s one of the main purposes in life)

hehe me too. I like the people here

I don’t know for sure the mods and Leo gura apparently figured out it was all the same person (preety, buck edwards, Tyler, candle) But to me Candle said they were not preety India, instead a young man.