Sugarcoat

That’s why I’m not enlightened 😂👍🏻

I think if you were born alone on isolated island you’d still develop a self

When self dissapears*

lol I don’t know how it is for others. But like a sense of “I’m physically here” maybe not physically but of some kind of substance…..

The word context makes me spontaneously imagine, in a visual way, like something that surrounds something else. Self seems more direct than that. But then, self could include the narrative on a time line we have about ourself, the story about ourselves: and that for sure seems like a context added on this immediate moment. So id agree with you, I’d say self is both context and this present, immediate “sense” (like a physical self)

You must be talking about a different kind of watching because for me watching thought has not led to enlightenment

I think as long as we feel like we have a choice it’s wise to try to make choices that we think will lead us to our goal, even if the goal is to go beyond that sense of choice. What else is there to do?

You need a self to have context. Because you feel like something, so you’re able to feel like there’s something beyond this immediacy, a context to this moment. Like: “right now I’m on planet earth”. You’ve never proved this in your direct experience. It’s you who assumes yourself as separate thus the world as separate, so it makes it possible to have all kinds of contexts.

I can’t know for others but for me it seems self, if we talk about it on relative level, is an active imagination. It’s not still but it tries to be still: in a good way, the goal is having a still nice self image. But it’s not possible because you can’t freeze something imaginary. So it becomes an effort that fails, I tried it many times. Dissolving the self implies stopping this mechanism that imagines the self. For me it didn’t happen.. I couldn’t stop that mechanism. But maybe for some it happens.

I bet Leo has enough money already hehe

The forum has been incredibly slow for me lately, and yea I get this error too

I won’t ask about it but yea it’s weird

Leo loves the mind. He is an intellectual. It’s clear he is still operating from his mind and his sense of self, he’s still on the human level in his day to day life. He hasn’t reached full dissolution of the psyche, if that’s even possible

Good for you. I’ll check him out

You should change username to “nobody here”😂

Lmaooo

Antipsychotics may help you

Actualized turnt tinder 😂 Cool life story

Lmao that was lowkey a funny kinda smooth opener not gonna lie I have met entity during sleep paralysis that was not hallucination so similar things during trip and sleep is possible….

If you really wanna get somewhere with contemplation instead of just staying at the mind level perhaps contemplate the mother of all assumptions which is that you’re real, and the world is real. That could potentially make you penetrate deeper into experience and actually change your experience, which I guess is the goal. Not only contemplate but actually bring your attention and focus to that sense of “I”

Right😍

There’s a Russian artist name Miravi she has some nice ballads , this is my favorite of hers

I don’t understand what you mean

Got it. I agree. But if the mystical perspective is the true one, must mean this normal perspective has a kind of illusion to it?

So maybe the self is as real as a stone, but then what’s not real is that the self and the stone are separate things? So in that sense it’s not real because it’s not existing as a separate thing. Or am I wrong? I mean must be at least something wrong in my experience that I’m having right now where I feel real