Sugarcoat

Most of the time I feel very neutral. And I feel like that about most things. But I can have a subtle inclination to wanna do things, for example today I went to a water park and it was decent.

Having things to enjoy or at least feel okay about is important! I am personally quite casual about death partly as a result of how detached I tend to be from most things. So I can relate

Harmony in the mind can def help…

Very true! Then once it’s realized it’s a matter of trying to somehow see a way through the suffering. Like it can feel like a big wall in front of you and you’re locked in prison and you have to get through the wall to get out. It can feel like “I can’t go through this for so long”. Sometimes the mind amplifies it too, overthinks it.

That’s so cool wow! Not gonna lie it’s one of those cases I wonder how someone persevered through it all… damn I can’t imagine going through decades of depression. Cases like him should be studied. Enlightenment should be studied . Imagine if the best scientists and the greatest mystics got together and worked on it damn. I wonder how his sense of self changed after that “awakening”. Is it possible to be in such a good state permanently if you have sense of self intact that feels very real? It’s like you feel you’re this little self and suffering is infinity being scary to you. It shows how awakening could happen to anyone. I’m tempted to say it seems very unlikely , like it’s an extreme case, but I’m not saying it’s impossible for anyone. Maybe we need to clearly see the mechanisms that cause suffering

If you really wanna get somewhere with contemplation instead of just staying at the mind level perhaps contemplate the mother of all assumptions which is that you’re real, and the world is real. That could potentially make you penetrate deeper into experience and actually change your experience, which I guess is the goal. Not only contemplate but actually bring your attention and focus to that sense of “I”

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There’s a Russian artist name Miravi she has some nice ballads , this is my favorite of hers

I don’t understand what you mean

First pic is when a man thinks with his ding dong Second pic is intersex with both mouse and ding dong. Don’t act like you don’t create these ai with that purpose you perv

I had the thought too😂

Finally we agree on something

Got it. I agree. But if the mystical perspective is the true one, must mean this normal perspective has a kind of illusion to it?

So maybe the self is as real as a stone, but then what’s not real is that the self and the stone are separate things? So in that sense it’s not real because it’s not existing as a separate thing. Or am I wrong? I mean must be at least something wrong in my experience that I’m having right now where I feel real

Depends. Taking a more bird eye view of life could free you from most petty human issues. But it could also lead you down a path of nihilism, existential anxiety (about death for example), sense of hopelessness and meaninglessness. It’s no guarantee of happiness. But I think it’s a preferable view because it puts your priorities straight

I assume enlightenment is a kind of end to the sense of self. Or maybe the sense of self is still there in enlightenment just that it’s not seen as “real”, which in our current reality it is: the self is experienced as absolutely real. Maybe that’s the illusion : the self seeming absolutely real. But then in enlightenment it’s seen as just a kind of form, but the non dual nature of reality is recognized, so you see how nothing is actually separate. But all the form remains the same, just not seen as absolutely real and separate That’s my guess I have wondered about the self I think the average person has moments where they forget about themselves : such as when they’re immersed in something. But it’s not a non dual state, because they’re still immersed in form: in duality (like watching a movie) For the vast minority of people they’ll have a self all their life, ask someone on the street: do you feel like you exist? They’ll most likely say yes. So enlightenment is really rare

You guys need to update your methods lol. Do you think she’s gonna reply like “oh yes I am!!” if she happened to be her

I guess at the core it’s a curiosity about what keeps people going through adversity because I see people going through horrible things without killing themselves meanwhile I’ve had suicidal thoughts so I wondered if they have the same Or I might take that back, sometimes I just express myself but I don’t really care for the answer

I won’t go into this discussion again about our role in suffering we had it already and exhausted it😂😂👍🏻But yea awareness is key

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I think that’s a flawed dialogue imo😂 Mind can’t be found like a physical object but it exists in our awareness/experience of reality. I might be wrong somehow though But yea I tend to focus on my mind as it is presently

Lollll you guys are funny

@Schizophonia if I delete something what is the need of bringing it up? It’s deleted for a reason

Yea I’m most interested in the mind since that’s what I primarily have experience of. It seems to me grasping its nature might need one to kind of get a complete meta view of the mind. Which would require like a radically different state of consciousness. But yea that might not be necessary to drop suffering. Although I do think transcending suffering all together would require transcending the mind/self completely. Maybe maybe not, or some extreme mindfulness ability, that I heard a story about.

A woman could simply be horny enough, in combination of being open to the idea of casual sex meaning she doesn’t judge it from some religious standpoint or something, and maybe she also is craving some ego boost (some could use it as an addiction for a self esteem boost). Especially in the west where culture is very sexualized and a woman’s sex appeal is put on a pedestal, so engaging in casual sex could feed her self image of wanting to feel sexy. Now that I’m thinking all that I wrote could be achieved in a relationship too. To that I could explain that maybe yes she’s craving intimacy and affection, but the one she gets from casual sex might be “enough” for now in her life. And emotional support and social company she might get from friends