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You think ?

I feel many people describe it vaguely . Not saying there is one correct definition or one version of it, can probably mean different things. I’m not afraid of conceptualizing either, it doesn’t hurt anything, I don’t hold onto ideas, no thought is able to exactly grasp at anything anyways. I had one massive shift which I would describe as a permanent dissolution of my mental self/mental reality. It was like my sense of self was permanently detached from my mind. I remember I stood in my kitchen and boom my entire being was released from attachment in the mind and it was permanent. I don’t consider myself enlightened because I have a sense of self still but it’s not a self attached to the mind/mental self. im just sharing this description based on direct experience

That was nicely written. It’s a broad word yea

No but it’s fine

Yea. There’s maybe different kinds of awakenings. Different levels, or not idk

Depends on if there’s different kinds of awakening , maybe the non dual stuff can’t be explained but even some non dual “teachers” can kind of describe the drop in self. im not saying theres one strict definition, as i said concepts don’t grasp at anything anyways but one can still form an conceptual model in some way

Maybe there is different kinds of awakenings too. So could explain some disagreements.

I was talking about looks so yea I couldn’t quote the next part so I’m just doing it like this instead: “And on the other hand women's evolution has given them many advantages. They intuitively know they don't need to "chase" and they are naturally much more in touch with their bodies. Most men have alot of catching up to do with this.” Women might have easier to find a man but it doesn’t mean the options they have are good or brings satisfaction.

I watched it yea

I watched it and what I got from it was that women tend to hide how they compete with each other and be more subtle about it and make it seem like they’re on each others side. So it connects to my post in how they wouldn’t be open about how they try to be a “real woman” (the term real sounds weird but I just mean high status) well he has a point . I’d say tho that this support women can give each other and also this overrating of themselves can also be a way to cope with insecurity because of internalized societal ideals. So simply trying to feel better about themselves rather than some hidden competition

they were awesome

I agree. For me looking good for myself means looking the healthiest too

You can summarize if you want to but I don’t feel like watching the whole video

I thought maybe in the past in the west womanhood was more centered around being a good mother and wife and looks too to a degree but but because of progression those prior mentioned things are less central and shifted more to this hyper sexual culture with looks being number one trait in woman and yes social media is key in that. ofc it’s a trap we have women for example almost killing themselves in eating disorders it’s very serious and women internalize this from society so it’s not sustainable that’s right this topic of beauty in women is interesting to me it might sound shallow but it’s a deep topic actually I wonder how much biology involved too in that it’s not all society ofc

I resonate with a lot of what you write and I do seem to intuit these things as I wrote in another post. I have no problem with conceptualizing so my point with this post was to kind of better understand my own shift which was so profound for me. You gave a very clear description there . It’s a bit tricky where the sense of self can fit in this, how come I can seemingly intuit what you write but still have this sense of self which is now radically different than it was prior to my shift. It’s like “open” now . Unbound by the mind , just a brain , if I’m gonna bring neurology into this.

You have a point especially with non dual stuff. I’m open with my question here so im not expecting to reach a final conclusion but just hear others experience to better understand where mine falls

I like to make connections to neurology too in this area. I for example have a self centered brain so a lot of self referential thinking so that DMN being very active probably I’ve read about it a little. That’s why I was curious where my “experience “ (it was so profound and permanent and all encompassing yet subtle ) falls . I feel my situation is unique maybe so it’s hard to pin point. From your definition my experience doesn’t fit since I dont recognize the non duality although I still intuit it somehow so it’s weird.

I see what you’re saying I don’t know much in that area so it could be like that yea. With the beauty stuff it’s the strongest in younger generations gen z and millennials that’s why I brought it up since it’s what I see the most .

It’s tricky yet simple. Also difference if someone is talking from direct experience vs heard from teachings and others.

I think that’s enlightenment yea or awakening could call it both. Total wipeout of a sense of self. I was just thinking because the shift I had was permanent and massively profound but didn’t wipe my sense of self out, but did erase this attachment to the mind/mental self or something so it’s interesting where that falls. I don’t worry about conceptualizing because it doesn’t change anything

Feminism tends to go against those traditional roles in general so it naturally lessens those expectations on men too I think. Not sure tho

The “emoji “ lol

That’s beautiful

“But you never watched it” lol exposed not say anything why? Because it can’t be spoken or? Or you mean your smile explain it all

That sounds beautiful. Do you experience it where did you get it from?