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I don’t know because I’m not enlightened although I’ve had profound shifts, maybe awakening even, and I haven’t studied much but I’m still kinda skeptical to there being so many levels etc

I don’t get this thing about deeper and deeper awakenings, different kinds of awakenings this and that. Either there is a sense of self or there’s no sense of fricking self it’s that simple isn’t it

Uh it’s a lot. The book is like 800+ pages. I only read a little and it was a long while ago

Agree I wrote how I believe desire is important, wanting truth and hating the human existence so that’s similar

I’d say I agree for the most part. The only thing I’d say is that certain things like psychedelics through action in the brain can give you glimpse so it seems some things can contribute to it. There being a kind of mechanism behind it. But maybe only temporarily , not for the permanent thing, enlightenment, that seems spontaneous and independent mostly

Not wrong if it’s mutual and you’re transparent about it

I know what you mean I experienced the same kinda. But school is still your best bet, sometimes people are more open to new people than one thinks. I used to get invited to things and people would try to include me sometimes even if I was a bit outside, so take any opportunity you get. You can probably find something in common, even if you’re different, while still maintaining your authenticity

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One thing that I think is important that maybe isn’t talked about much is desire. I’m not enlightened I don’t know this for sure but I think with anything in life it’s important to want it really badly. You must hate the human existence and want really badly to end it and find truth, that is a big key. You try and try and try and try and exhaust the effort and in some way or another find it

Interesting

I don’t know much about asthma actually it could be your theory maybe. It could be several factors

I agree. It seems to me tho the self maintains itself automatically, not so much choice involved, I’m having a hard time seeing how one could make a choice to open oneself. It’s like the veil holds itself together without my choice in it. If I take a psychedelic that opens me I can’t help but close then afterwards as the effect is over

That’s why I say enlightenment seems to me when it’s permanent

I haven’t read much either. I’ll check him out. That’s cool he can do that, haven’t heard of it before

Maybe you are right I don’t know. Do you have an example of someone who seems truly enlightened to you?

Could it be asthma ? Or do you have postural issues ?

That’s such a good response it makes sense

We were just discussing an aspect of your post but to give an answer well I don’t really know much other than biology and societal conditioning making you attracted to femininity to put it simply

I don’t know what they are. “Empty their minds and see themselves as pure existence”, that seems a pretty big deal to me, nothing just about anyone could do easily. What is more radical than that? What’s enlightenment to you? For me it’s when it’s permanent and not just temporary. I don’t know tho because I’m not enlightened .

For sure most things are an ego thing in some way. I don’t think I really understand it intellectually even. And it doesn’t seem to be the opposite too, that women contempt masculinity yet are attracted to it simultaneously to the same degree, when its happens it’s usually as a response to female opression, so can’t really compare the two

School is your best bet it’s harder outside of school to make friends. Chat people up and if you have social anxiety challenge it. So I did in high school and I managed to get a few friends and people I could talk to

I don’t really understand why some men have this conflict within them when it comes to women. There are books about it for example the book “the second sex” by Simone de Beavoir that goes really deep into the roots of female oppression, these dynamics etc . I haven’t read too much from it but from what I read it was very juicy

Are you enlightened? How do you know this? I’ve been thinking the same tho, there being no real correlation between practice and enlightenment that it’s spontaneous, I don’t know that tho, just a guess

Thanks I will try this

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