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Got it. I agree. But if the mystical perspective is the true one, must mean this normal perspective has a kind of illusion to it?

So maybe the self is as real as a stone, but then what’s not real is that the self and the stone are separate things? So in that sense it’s not real because it’s not existing as a separate thing. Or am I wrong? I mean must be at least something wrong in my experience that I’m having right now where I feel real

Depends. Taking a more bird eye view of life could free you from most petty human issues. But it could also lead you down a path of nihilism, existential anxiety (about death for example), sense of hopelessness and meaninglessness. It’s no guarantee of happiness. But I think it’s a preferable view because it puts your priorities straight

I assume enlightenment is a kind of end to the sense of self. Or maybe the sense of self is still there in enlightenment just that it’s not seen as “real”, which in our current reality it is: the self is experienced as absolutely real. Maybe that’s the illusion : the self seeming absolutely real. But then in enlightenment it’s seen as just a kind of form, but the non dual nature of reality is recognized, so you see how nothing is actually separate. But all the form remains the same, just not seen as absolutely real and separate That’s my guess I have wondered about the self I think the average person has moments where they forget about themselves : such as when they’re immersed in something. But it’s not a non dual state, because they’re still immersed in form: in duality (like watching a movie) For the vast minority of people they’ll have a self all their life, ask someone on the street: do you feel like you exist? They’ll most likely say yes. So enlightenment is really rare

You guys need to update your methods lol. Do you think she’s gonna reply like “oh yes I am!!” if she happened to be her

I guess at the core it’s a curiosity about what keeps people going through adversity because I see people going through horrible things without killing themselves meanwhile I’ve had suicidal thoughts so I wondered if they have the same Or I might take that back, sometimes I just express myself but I don’t really care for the answer

I won’t go into this discussion again about our role in suffering we had it already and exhausted it😂😂👍🏻But yea awareness is key

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I think that’s a flawed dialogue imo😂 Mind can’t be found like a physical object but it exists in our awareness/experience of reality. I might be wrong somehow though But yea I tend to focus on my mind as it is presently

Lollll you guys are funny

@Schizophonia if I delete something what is the need of bringing it up? It’s deleted for a reason

Yea I’m most interested in the mind since that’s what I primarily have experience of. It seems to me grasping its nature might need one to kind of get a complete meta view of the mind. Which would require like a radically different state of consciousness. But yea that might not be necessary to drop suffering. Although I do think transcending suffering all together would require transcending the mind/self completely. Maybe maybe not, or some extreme mindfulness ability, that I heard a story about.

A woman could simply be horny enough, in combination of being open to the idea of casual sex meaning she doesn’t judge it from some religious standpoint or something, and maybe she also is craving some ego boost (some could use it as an addiction for a self esteem boost). Especially in the west where culture is very sexualized and a woman’s sex appeal is put on a pedestal, so engaging in casual sex could feed her self image of wanting to feel sexy. Now that I’m thinking all that I wrote could be achieved in a relationship too. To that I could explain that maybe yes she’s craving intimacy and affection, but the one she gets from casual sex might be “enough” for now in her life. And emotional support and social company she might get from friends

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Good for you

You’re being deep meanwhile schizophonia just had some grammatical errors

When unborntao gives up on replying to your endless repetitive rambling and instead resorts to his default response “contemplate” lol jk But to be honest it’s kinda difficult to comtemplate emotions when I barely feel any nowadays Mind can mean mind or Mind, so it has different meanings

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I don’t even know what mirroring means

Your grammar makes it like you’re talking about yourself and the other person simultaneously

I will not even try to understand 😂

Yea you’re right we don’t know what comes after so we can’t know if it’s better You mean those mentioned activities can make us “forget ourselves” so it’s like it’s imitating the end of ego that would happen at death If you assume death is nothing then yes nothing can be experienced there

It can be interpreted as “you/your life sucks so much why are you not ending it?” ,like this song lyrics “if i was you I’d cut up my wrist”. Or it could just be a question of what’s good in your life so that you wanna live. Which is what I meant.

Someone might ask “why are you suicidal” to try to help someone I asked just as random self expression I don’t really care for the answer 😂

What you referring to?