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I have gaps between my thoughts, sometimes longer, and I still feel I exist during the gaps. To me the thoughts are not the sense of self

Okay I see. Thanks for sharing. I’ve only experienced that lack of barrier on 5meo

yes

I don’t feel I exist in deep sleep . Deep sleep is different from a state of no thought.

I thought it was having no sense of self

Lol

I guess that you could be 90% pure happiness if you really renounce to the mundane and are open to your nature all time. Happiness is existing without any mental hindrance that prevents the happiness How about physical pain and ailments? Is that suffering different if you’re enlightened or in an enlightened “state” ? Maybe you can’t answer this but I’ve been curious about it

I still feel like I exist when my mind is quiet, in between thoughts

I think the self is deeper than thoughts it’s like a energetic sense of I’m here

I think desire plays a big role too . In my experience it does. But the thing is though that enlightenment is not an object that one can want, that’s the deal so it’s like you’re seeking nothing

I define it as no sense of self maybe I’m wrong though

The probability tho 😳less than winning Olympic gold

I don’t think I see that so we differ there. If I did then I’m guessing it would be obvious. I’m still stuck in self. I did have that massive shift tho over a year ago I don’t know what that was but it was like new reality opened up as you say. Don’t know what to call it or what to call myself. But I know I’m not at a finish line at least.

Is that a real fear of yours? i personally believe in reincarnation of some sort, so I could fear bad incarnations. But I don’t believe in hell and a god as the creator it doesn’t make sense at all for me. Don’t think it should for you either. But reincarnation is scary enough for me

I strongly believe there is hope in your situation for improvement even if I don’t know much about what you’re going through. The brain is malleable.

lol right.

You mean if you incarnate into something bad?

Okay I see it’s a cool name yes. I don’t know if there’s degrees of enlightenment maybe it depends on how it’s defined. I feel I can “intuit” that everything is consciousness , that it’s illusion etc non duality and all, but I still have a sense of self as a human. So maybe I’m with you there. okay I see I think I can somewhat understand what you mean about the shift. Don’t know if I can relate to that. But thanks for sharing.

And not all guys are willing to put in the work for it, so that’s what separates them

I had this thought today that I don’t think suicide is such a big of a deal as it’s made to be. We didn’t chose to be birthed and shouldn’t have to stay alive if we don’t want to. Imagine how much suffering could be ended if it was easier to kill oneself, maybe helped medically. Some cases can be very hopeless for the person, so I think getting help to die should be more accessible. But I’m guessing it’s a controversial opinion.

@Spiritual Warfare you’re looking for satisfactory answers, those are hard to find I’ve noticed.

What you gonna do?

You just opened me up to a new perspective. I knew women were better than men socially and emotionally but not to that degree. I feel those things came naturally to me as a woman as I got less insecure in myself . But then as you say for guys getting rid of insecurity is just first step , it won’t just come naturally after that

You’re speaking as if consciousness has a will. I don’t believe it does. Everything exists including horrible things just because it happens to appear for no reason I believe. I can relate to your title though. I’ve been having a hard time lately . Embracing the ugly aspects of life, the suffering is the hardest thing one can do. Many days I just want to die too so I feel you there. What we can do though is to try to create the best out of our situation as best we can

Are you enlightened is that how you know this? That’s why your name is noselfself right. I’m ready to sacrifice my human experience I just feel my “self” structure is maintaining itself and hard to break through. I did though over a year ago have this one massive permanent shift I don’t even know what to call it so I’m a bit confused sometimes like, am I awakened already or not. You always give interesting answers. Could you describe more this shift between source and ego if you want