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I see what you’re saying. I just used Leo as example because he really strived hard, harder than me for enlightenment

I haven’t tried them specifically but I can imagine.

cool let me know how it goes

sounds good lol sounds like a lovely experience

So random lol. Is it tasty? What does one do with it?

I would imagine there would be less thoughts in an enlightened “state” or if one becomes it

Never heard that before. I wouldn’t agree. Gingerbread is so good tho I’ll see if I’ll make it this year

Lmao you can only write such here in this thread it’s a bit like our secretive corner😂

I swear

Now you’re making me crave it

Very informative . Thanks. I would say I got the basics down but for sure there is room for improvement. I dont really agree tho that you gotta get everything down before “enlightenment” . Desire for it could come before, and it can still be worth pursuing.

I have gaps between my thoughts, sometimes longer, and I still feel I exist during the gaps. To me the thoughts are not the sense of self

Okay I see. Thanks for sharing. I’ve only experienced that lack of barrier on 5meo

yes

@Schizophonia it’s funny I bet I’m the only one who understands your bio

My robot answers

I don’t feel I exist in deep sleep . Deep sleep is different from a state of no thought.

I thought it was having no sense of self

Lol

I guess that you could be 90% pure happiness if you really renounce to the mundane and are open to your nature all time. Happiness is existing without any mental hindrance that prevents the happiness How about physical pain and ailments? Is that suffering different if you’re enlightened or in an enlightened “state” ? Maybe you can’t answer this but I’ve been curious about it

I still feel like I exist when my mind is quiet, in between thoughts

I think the self is deeper than thoughts it’s like a energetic sense of I’m here

I think desire plays a big role too . In my experience it does. But the thing is though that enlightenment is not an object that one can want, that’s the deal so it’s like you’re seeking nothing

I define it as no sense of self maybe I’m wrong though

The probability tho 😳less than winning Olympic gold