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It’s more than logic. It’s intuitive too. It’s resonance. I think it’s clear that they are speaking from a place of truth. Depends on who you listen to maybe, for example I like Jim Newman.

Have you listened to non dualists on YouTube? I think it’s clear they are speaking from a place of what I would call enlightenment. There is just something so straightforward, clear and out of the ordinary in the way they speak. I wish I could see that for myself.

Are you enlightened? this might sound crazy but I don’t think I have any attachments. I’ve broken them down before. I’ll see if I implement some meditation. I want some powerful technique and I’m guessing meditation is one of the most powerful. But can’t you use a technique without getting attached to it?

Okay I see.

I would say yes

I see what you’re saying. I just used Leo as example because he really strived hard, harder than me for enlightenment

I haven’t tried them specifically but I can imagine.

sounds good lol sounds like a lovely experience

So random lol. Is it tasty? What does one do with it?

I would imagine there would be less thoughts in an enlightened “state” or if one becomes it

Very informative . Thanks. I would say I got the basics down but for sure there is room for improvement. I dont really agree tho that you gotta get everything down before “enlightenment” . Desire for it could come before, and it can still be worth pursuing.

I have gaps between my thoughts, sometimes longer, and I still feel I exist during the gaps. To me the thoughts are not the sense of self

Okay I see. Thanks for sharing. I’ve only experienced that lack of barrier on 5meo

yes

I don’t feel I exist in deep sleep . Deep sleep is different from a state of no thought.

I thought it was having no sense of self

Lol

I guess that you could be 90% pure happiness if you really renounce to the mundane and are open to your nature all time. Happiness is existing without any mental hindrance that prevents the happiness How about physical pain and ailments? Is that suffering different if you’re enlightened or in an enlightened “state” ? Maybe you can’t answer this but I’ve been curious about it

I still feel like I exist when my mind is quiet, in between thoughts

I think the self is deeper than thoughts it’s like a energetic sense of I’m here

I think desire plays a big role too . In my experience it does. But the thing is though that enlightenment is not an object that one can want, that’s the deal so it’s like you’re seeking nothing

I define it as no sense of self maybe I’m wrong though

The probability tho 😳less than winning Olympic gold

I don’t think I see that so we differ there. If I did then I’m guessing it would be obvious. I’m still stuck in self. I did have that massive shift tho over a year ago I don’t know what that was but it was like new reality opened up as you say. Don’t know what to call it or what to call myself. But I know I’m not at a finish line at least.

Is that a real fear of yours? i personally believe in reincarnation of some sort, so I could fear bad incarnations. But I don’t believe in hell and a god as the creator it doesn’t make sense at all for me. Don’t think it should for you either. But reincarnation is scary enough for me