Sugarcoat

If you could summarize this post in a few sentences what would you write? (If you want)

I have also entertained that thought and yea I’m like you I don’t know either. The thing is anything we say is a concept: so you could say nothing is absolutely true If someone gets enlightened by hearing the message “there’s nothing to get , nothing to do” . How come another person hears the exact same thing and doesn’t get enlightened? There seems to have been a difference in the happening there. And maybe it could be useful identifying that difference. Even if in absolute truth nothing leads to nothing. We still live in a world that “seems to work a certain way”. So one might as well do what one thinks is most likely to lead to one’s goal : even if that is “doing nothing” which is still a kind of “action”.

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Toxic people, I don’t judge them, it’s just a label for simplicity sake You can recognize you’re a little pathetic human without it having a negative charge in it emotionally

It’s not important to know the science (if there is any) of enlightenment because what u gonna do with that info? You already heard self inquiry and meditation works, so you might already be doing that. It might all be relative, but so is also “contemplating/confronting oneself/ones experience”… When you are in this relative world it seems wise to do the things that seem correlated to enlightenment (if that’s the goal) even if maybe ultimately there’s no correlation to enlightenment, or anything for that matter! But then you might as well do nothing (which might be beneficial to enlightenment lol) So I’m not really disagreeing with you..I agree it’s important to confront the very self you identify as because that’s the very “block”

Yea..

Upon that recognition, which may happen spontaneously for a few, there is a kind of shift that occurs: the person goes from a sense of self to no sense of self. In that, if it were to be looked upon in the brain, perhaps a difference could be seen (I don’t know because I haven’t read science that studies that) Maybe it’s not absolutely true; because absolutely there might not even be separate objects. But it seems the appearance works a certain way. If you drop a glass on the floor it will break : both before and after enlightenment. It might be that the appearance of the brain gives rise to the appearance that is the mind and the self. So if any of those forms change, the rest changes. Such knowledge might not be useful. It’s enough to know that certain techniques might increase the chance of at least an enlightenment experience (like meditation)

Today the forum has been so smooth

When you look around at your enviroment, the trees and the people, you perceive depth, selves and solidity, and most importantly: realness. That’s the “illusion” . It appears like that because YOU feel real and solid. And your own mind is embedded in it all. Jim Newman said it too… but I’ve been saying it …

It might need rewiring of the brain. But maybe you don’t include brain in “body”. If brain produces mind and self then something needs to end that activity, the mechanism that produces that activity. A person with no self might have something different neurologically if it were to be studied.

Cool

Ofc, I wondered about it when I read it, I just wrote what first came to mind. But it remains a mystery It’s an unique perspective I haven’t heard of before indeed!

I may be wrong so that’s my sense of mystery (whatever you even mean with that question)

Detective Tao back at it again

That’s when the self appears . 👺(referring to the ocean drop quote)

Is that synonymous with dissolving the self?

It’s hard to write about because I’m not enlightened myself. I can only speak about how loosening in the self-structure has led to a more emptier mind, that’s why I assume enlightenment to be an extreme version of that

I think you generally attract people around your own level. And I think you’re AT LEAST average human (whatever that even means, you’re not too common imo you’re a bit unique actually in good way). So you’ll probably attract girls around your level (when she gets to know you, at first glance you can attract all kinds of trash ofc, anyone could) . So even if you’re a little pathetic human, she is too!

I hope i didn’t sound condescending or something when I wrote that it sounded almost like fairytale. I am also in the illusion of self and in my own version of maya so it’s something we share

You mean even if you are god realized you can have desire to engage in human things?

Sounds like humanizing god to me. Or maybe you don’t mean it literally

Do you ever get cracks in your reality where it’s like it almost stops feeling as real Example is when I had social anxiety I felt I needed to get over it fully before relationship because I was afraid of being cringe

Yea. But it’s probably an outdated joke for you.

True dying as a human is dissolving the self. It’s the ultimate death apart from physical death.

Should we tell him….