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55: What keeps people going through adversity? Maintaining a strong mindset. Something I think about sometimes is what keeps people going through adversity. And about maintaining a strong mindset. This past year has been the worst in my life, and I have been having regular suicidal thoughts. Sometimes it’s so bad I’ll have suicidal thoughts from the morning I wake up until I go to sleep pretty much. I have like two sides of me. One that has some strength to keep pushing forward, and another that is “weak” , has no strength and wants to end my life. I don’t even wanna call it weak, I see it more as a reasonable reaction to the circumstances I’m in which I won’t go into here because it’s too weird even for this forum. Maintaining a “strong” mindset is so hard and I feel it doesn’t last long until it crumbles. What I mean by a strong mindset is a mindset that makes you persevere through adversity. The opposite would be a mindset that wants to end your life instead of persevering through the adversity. I manage to maintain this “strong” mindset for a little while, then it always crumbles and I’m back in suicidal thinking. And so it goes, oscillating between the two. I have wondered to myself what keeps other people going through adversity instead of ending it or at least thinking of ending it. I hear of cases worse than what I’m currently in wondering how those people keep going while I can barely stand my own situation right now. I have some theories. 1. Attachments. I feel peoples attachments could keep them going. For example being attached to their own family, and not wanting them to suffer if they die. This is something I lack, I’m not attached to anyone so no person is a reason for me to keep going. 2. Other attachments. I wonder if people have a kind of attachment to life itself. Or to themselves. They are attached to living, to being a person that is a part of the world, being a part of society. They have a “life” in the conventional sense, having friends, hobbies, partners, interests and they are attached to experiencing these things. I don’t really have this that much, because most of the time I’m severely disconnected from myself so it’s like I almost don’t exist at all. 3. Good mental health. When people are dealing with physical pain but have good mental health then their good mental health is like a good foundation they stand on and the physical pain is something that bothers this good foundation but not enough so it crumbles and as long as they are able to maintain good mental health it’s a good enough foundation that gives them a reason to keep living. I don’t really have this because of a reason I described before. 3. Having a reason to go through the pain. Sometimes great pain comes from something great. So for example if a woman is giving birth and is in great pain, her reason for keeping going is that she will have a wonderful baby out of it. Also if someone has had a surgery and are in great pain their reason is that they are in the healing process. 4. Attachment to self image. Im going to use David Goggins as an example here. He has this desire to be “the baddest motherfucker” that is a self image he desires to have, and having this self image entails he preserves through adversity and in his extreme case ever PUTS HIMSELF through adversity (the extreme training) . So he needs to do those things to maintain this self image he has created for himself that he is attached to. He is even afraid of not achieving this greatness, of being old and not having reached his full potential. His case is extreme, but I’ve seen some cases of people having this self image of being “tough” and being attached to this image so this keeping them persevering through adversity. I don’t have this as I don’t have a desire to be “tough”. 5. Knowing it’s temporary. This one is a bit difficult for me to swallow. Some things for me are to unbearable to go through even if they are only temporary. So I’m having a hard time seeing how someone could have this as a reason to keep persevering. Because when something is horrible time slows down and it feels like forever. That is a very strong mindset to have, this mindset of it only being temporary. In my case I feel the only reason I’m alive today is that my situation hasn’t become “bad enough”. I don’t have a reason to live, there is nothing that I love, there’s no self image I’m attached to , nor a person, or other things. I don’t know if I would wanna switch places with someone with a “stronger” mindset, or who has attachments, because I hear about these horrible things people go through and I know myself enough to know I would much rather die than go through that. For example there’s this disease called trigeminal neuralgia which causes horrific pain regularly. Many people with that disease commit suicide apparently, and I know myself enough to know I’d be one of them. I don’t really understand those who persevere through that, but I can imagine that some of the reason I highlighted above could explain it a little. Hope you enjoyed reading. Thanks

Thanks I see you’re trying to cheer me up. Or not.

What’s your point? Yea ofc anyone has the right to be as one pleases

I will see if I ever try it

I’ve seen that but it seems unhealthy

I just thought to myself how the most precious things imo is to have good mental and physical health. Like if you have those two you should be so thankful. Because if you loose one of them it’s the only thing you’ll be wishing back. I’m having a hard time even thinking of something more precious than those two things. It’s even more precious than family imo, maybe because I’m a bit f*cked up, a lone wolf and love nobody.

This sounds a bit toxic. My guess was that it was to try to make her jealous , which you in a reply said it was. The kind of high quality girl you would want this probably wouldn’t work on, she would be too mature to fall for this trick. The kind of girl this would work on seems the kind that is into a guy who doesn’t give her interest, and you’d have to maintain this behavior of playing games with her to keep her interest up. If you are phony enough maybe you could pull it off, but other than that no.

You too

Thanks. I feel you. Life can suck so much. Unfortunately I don’t feel any different when I talk to my family about it. I fight my battles alone too.

Thanks

I feel I get zero dopamine in my brain. Like I’m walking around dead and empty. My family knows about my situation. It’s very hard to stay positive.

I relate to this. I’ve been suicidal for the past year. I feel too weak to handle my existence. Sometimes I try to brute force it with a strong mindset and it lasts for a little while but not for long until I slip back down and feel weak again. A strong mindset can only hold up for so long until it crumbles again . Sometimes it’s so bad I’ll spend all day researching suicide methods and have suicidal thoughts from the moment I wake up to the moment I go to sleep and feel like my whole being has given up on life. There’s like two sides of me, one with a little strength left to push myself further, and one that has completely given up on life and succumbed to the bad circumstances I’m in. So I oscillate between the two. But it’s hard.

It means what it says. That my problem is very strange and odd so I won’t write what it is exactly, but it’s similar to those two things I mentioned. Yes I go to regular doctors appointments, but it’s not helping at all, the meds aren’t helping at all

It’s very weird what I’m going through. Like even too weird for this forum . But to give a clue I’d say it’s similar (not exactly those things) to a kind of severe depersonalization and a severe compulsive behavior.

Im doing somewhat okay now. I have two different parts of me, one that has given up and is suicidal, and one that has some strength to keep going. So I kinda oscillate between the two

Yea

A lot of men’s so called “raw truth” is riddened with identification with one’s mental position and underlying emotion

Just have more sex?

That sounds fun

They probably slept like that because they had no option, but you have an option, most would probably prefer more space so you have the choice to be close vs having your space not just forced to be close.

Ok…

I get your point but who wants to forcefully cuddle every night. Everyone needs some distance

You mean truth right?