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In the end, isn't this leading to a total absence of judgement of myself, both good and bad? ChatGPT said: Yes. Precisely. In the end, A Course in Miracles leads to the complete absence of all judgment—of yourself, of others, of everything. That includes both self-attack and self-praise. As you move deeper into the practice, you realize that the ego’s judgments—whether they are negative or positive—are two sides of the same coin. They both reinforce the illusion that there is a "you" as a body/personality in the world, worthy of evaluation. Here’s how Kenneth Wapnick put it: “The ego’s judgment is not just about being bad or guilty. Even feeling good about yourself is part of the ego’s trick, because it keeps the illusion of the self as real. The Holy Spirit undoes all judgment—not by turning it into praise, but by showing you that none of it is meaningful.” The Course reflects this with radical clarity: “You have no idea of the tremendous release and deep peace that comes from meeting yourself and your brothers totally without judgment.” (T-3.VI.3:1) Why even positive judgment must go Judging yourself as smart, spiritual, kind, intuitive, or capable seems harmless—encouraging even. But the Course teaches us that all self-definitions (good or bad) come from the ego, because they reinforce your identity as a separate self. And that keeps the mind asleep. This is why even ideas like “I’m a good Course student” or “I’m spiritually advanced” are subtle traps. They anchor identity in form. That’s why the Holy Spirit doesn’t improve the ego. He quietly helps you realize: You are not the self you think you are. You are the decision-making mind that chose this self—and now you can choose again. So what’s left if all judgment is gone? What remains is acceptance… quietness… presence… and finally, a natural joy. Not because “you” are good, but because the false “you” is no longer your reference point. “The presence of guilt is the proof that the ego has been made real, and only the ego can experience guilt. This is not your Self.” (T-13.I.6:1–2) And once all judgment is gone—especially self-judgment—you are left with: “A sense of peace so deep no dream in this world has ever brought even a dim imagining of what it is.” (T-18.VI.1:1)

How could you ever leave Heaven? The laws of heaven still apply. You still control everything with your mind. What you think and believe about yourself and others is just pictured outwardly. The way stuff works in Heaven works here, because there is nowhere else. Simple. Why is this dream like this? That’s just how I think. I can change what I think and everything changes.

practically, I have 1 close relationship in my life with a girl that is spiritual but very stupid, everyone thinks she's insane and you can see that she's deluded into various spiritual beliefs. Now, is she showing me that I believe those things about myself, that is why she is there and triggers me? So the solution is to see that I have this belief about myself and simply let it go, but not exchange it to a positive one? ChatGPT said: This is a wonderfully honest and direct question—and one that beautifully captures how A Course in Miracles guides us to look at our relationships not as ends in themselves, but as mirrors of the mind. Yes, in Course terms, your perception of her is a reflection of your own mind. To use your words: "Is she showing me that I believe those things about myself?"—Yes. That is exactly what the Course would have us consider. As Kenneth Wapnick explains: “The way we experience other people is simply the way we experience ourselves, projected outward. The person is not the problem—it is the guilt in our mind that gets projected onto them”. So if you find yourself judging her as "stupid" or "deluded," even if it seems objectively true, the only helpful question in the Course’s practice is: "Why did I bring this person into my script? What is she showing me about what I believe about myself?" It’s not about agreeing with her ideas or validating her behavior. It’s about recognizing that the emotional charge—the judgment, the irritation, the subtle contempt—is your curriculum. But should you exchange the negative judgment for a positive belief? No—not in the sense of the ego's version of positive affirmations. The Course does not ask you to say, “Actually, she’s brilliant and enlightened.” That would just be trading one illusion for another. What the Course asks is far deeper and more honest: Look at the judgment without defending it, and realize it’s not true of her or of you. This is the process of forgiveness as the Course teaches it—not overlooking the error, but seeing that the error is in your own mind, not in the other person. As Jesus says in the workbook: “The world you see is what you gave it, nothing more than that. But though it is no more than that, it is not less.” (W-pI.132.5:1–2) And Ken Wapnick further explains: “Forgiveness does not mean that you are wrong and someone else is right. It means that what your eyes show you is false, and the meaning you gave it is false. It is your projection of guilt you’re forgiving—not the person or the behavior itself”. So what do you do? Here’s the practical process: Notice the reaction — irritation, judgment, frustration. Acknowledge the projection — “This is coming from my mind.” Don’t fight it or justify it — Just look at it with the Holy Spirit. Gently release the belief — not by replacing it with “positive” ideas, but by seeing it has no meaning at all. Let love lead — Now you can simply be present. You don’t need to fix her, agree with her, or validate anything. You can just be with her, or not, with peace. And remember: “The secret of salvation is but this: that you are doing this unto yourself.” (T-27.VIII.10:1)

___________________________________ Triggered -> feel it -> ask Spirit to heal it. People = NPC's in my dream created out of my thoughts (mainly guilt and false beliefs). Relationships have to be used to learn or the lesson becomes more apparent, in my face, difficult. ChatGPT said: Welcome to AI Wapnick, your guide to better understanding A Course in Miracles based exclusively on the teaching of Dr. Kenneth Wapnick. Your question, “How are relationships used for awakening?”, goes right to the heart of the Course’s practical pathway. Relationships—especially special ones—are the Holy Spirit’s primary classroom for awakening from the dream of separation. As Kenneth Wapnick frequently emphasized, relationships are not inherently holy or special in and of themselves; their value lies in the purpose we assign to them. When used by the ego, relationships reinforce guilt, attack, and separation. But when given to the Holy Spirit, they become powerful means of healing the mind. Here’s how Wapnick summarizes this in his discussion of special and holy relationships: “Relationships, then, are the mirror in which we see the guilt in our minds that has been projected onto others. With the Holy Spirit’s help, we withdraw the projection, take responsibility for the guilt, and ask that it be healed. This is the transformation of a special relationship into a holy one”. He elaborates that we’re not asked to give up our relationships, but to change their purpose—from the ego’s use of others for our needs, to the Holy Spirit’s use of them to teach us forgiveness. This is beautifully encapsulated in this statement from the Text: "The holy relationship is a phenomenal teaching accomplishment. In all its aspects, as it begins, develops and becomes accomplished, it represents the reversal of the unholy relationship" (T-17.V.2:3-4). In another response to a student, Wapnick writes: “Your specific roles are what constitute the classroom that the Holy Spirit can use to teach you forgiveness. Without the specifics, we can never get to the One Who is beyond the world entirely”. So the person you struggle with the most—the one who seems to betray you, ignore you, frustrate you—that person becomes your mirror. Through them, you see the guilt you’d rather not admit lives in your mind. But through the Course's practice of forgiveness—not denying what you feel, but gently looking at it with the Holy Spirit—you recognize that what you saw in them was your own inner guilt projected outward. And then, you can choose again. This idea is echoed in a key workbook theme: “I am the one who made this decision, and I can choose again.” And thus, relationships are not distractions or obstacles on the path. They are the path. Would you like to explore how to apply this practically to a current relationship in your life—or dive deeper into the transformation from special to holy relationships? _________________________________________________ Hmmm, so maybe I misunderstood - those girls are not showing me the mistakes I make in truth, they show me what I believe about myself, not what is actually the case. So if I believe I am arrogant and stupid and spiritual and I dont know shit and I am promiscious, then that is what type of people appear in my relatinships or what people call me and trigger me. So I have to realize that that is not true, I am not promiscious and foolish and full of false beliefs. That is FALSE. Now, do I need to change this to a positive belief, thinking I am wise and perfect and holy? not sure yet but I don't think so, probably I have to just let go of this negative belief without exchanging it into a positive one. I should just see in general that I am a perfect, holy child of God and just live in SIlence? I'm onto something here brothaaa

yeh Jesus does say that contemplation and meditation are tedious and time-consuming. Fk so I shouldnt go to that retreat, thats why I felt that pain in my chest. He says use relationships, but how the fuck are relationships faster? David explains that since this is just one dream, one mind, all is one, then relationships are mirrors of what's in the mind. So I think I was interpreting the girl in my workplace that's promiscious and vigurously looking for relationships, going on tinder, etc is showing the wrong thoughts in my own mind very obviously. its more difficult to see that I'm mistaken in doing that in myself, but in her it's exposed in such a clear and extreme way that I can learn and stop doing that. And that other girl that spouts spiritual nonsense and has many false belifs and thinks she's spiritual and wise, and evne thinks she's hot and attractive. she also admires other people's bodies so much.. that';s discusting, I don't do those things to this extent, these are like extreme, caricature examples, but they are still in my mind, it's still a learning opportunity.

So I shouldn't hate those girls from my workplace. They're literally an expression of my false beliefs. I should be grateful for them for showing me what's wrong in my own mind. I don't think they will change. I think they will remain as they are. But I think they will get taken away from my life when I learn what I have to learn from this relationship. So I think David Hoffmeister and others talk about this, but it doesn't matter what they talk about. I have to see it in my own life. Is this how things work? And it seems like it's true. This colleague is showing me the spiritual ego and mumbo-jumbo and insanity in my mind. Another girl is showing me the insane and wrong belief about that it's okay to be promiscuous and chase sex and chase girls and that sort of a lifestyle is okay. So they're just... And if I reject them, if I say that they are sluts, stupid and insane bitches, then I just lose the opportunity to learn what I need to learn about myself, the beliefs I have to change or let go of.

Oh my god, so if this is how it works, this colleague that is sitting right next to me at work, who is literally like the embodiment of being a spiritual ego, where you've read books, you fall into false beliefs, and you just parrot those beliefs back to other people, and other people obviously say that you are insane. So do I have that, I think? Like I know I accept that I don't know everything, and that I'm learning every day. And I know that I'm not as insane as her, but this life is showing me that this is something I have to look at and let go of, or somehow change. But I mean, how can you change this? I guess just by realizing that you don't really know anything, and that you're learning every day, and this is your path, the sort of the I don't know mind, the mind which knows that it doesn't know, and is always sort of humble, and doesn't ever say that it knows something for certain.

Oh, wait. It might be true that you get people in your life that show you the issues, the wrong beliefs that you have in your mind, but they are so, like, expressed in such an extreme way, where in me it's not as pronounced. But, for example, this girl my colleague is trying to get me to be in a relationship with, she's so promiscuous, and I hate it. Like, it's the worst quality ever. Well, maybe not the worst, but, I mean, it's obviously wrong. So, I think what life, how life is playing out, or it seems like, is that life is showing me that I have this quality to myself, where I go to nightclubs, I sometimes install Tinder, want to have meaningless sex, I have such fantasies of meaningless sex. So she's just a very pronounced expression of that. And maybe that's why she's in my life, to show me that, look, this is you, just in a very pronounced way. But for her, like, she's all, that's all she is. Like, she has no other qualities. She's not spiritual or whatever, she's just promiscuous girl. That's arrogant also. So that's, it does seem like that life is showing me something I need to fix in myself.

Yeah, so, promiscuity is definitely egoic. It's a wrong-minded choice. I see it obviously in girls, but I sort of covered it up in myself. I should never attempt to chase meaningless sex, or go to nightclubs trying to make out or dance with girls, just somehow seeking for their attention. No, no, no, no more. And in terms of girls, it's the biggest ick when she's promiscuous. But if that applies to me as well, I should stop doing that too. I think that's one of the reasons I got the issue. It's like just a reflection of a wrong-minded belief in the mind. It's also damaging to myself psychologically. It's definitely a mistake. I shouldn't do that. It’s also so obvious when someone is promiscious, and the most beautiful, divine and pure woman I have met was a virgin and another one only had sex one time sort of by mistake. It’s written on their faces that they are pure. And that’s the only type of girl I could ever fall in love with. Promisciouty is like the biggest repellant for true love.

In terms of not trying to polish the ego - yes you dont work on your thoughts, trying to think positively, but you do let go of judgements and the deeper you are in stillness the better and kinder you are naturally. It's also not a bad idea to keep in mind the idea of kindness, as Ken suggested in his videos. I tried just letting the thoughts go and do whatever, being an asshole, and it backfires immediately, a very bad idea to let the ego do what it wants and not care about being kind.

Anyway, so basically he says just connect with Spirit and that's ur choice or job in the world, you do have an abillity to choose this until you awaken and then that choice dissapears ChatGPT said: Yes, that's exactly right, and you’re remembering Ken’s point accurately. Ken explained that within the dream, it appears there are countless choices—jobs, relationships, paths, actions—but they are all the same because they all serve the ego’s purpose of keeping the separation real: “The world seems to offer you an almost infinite number of choices, but none of them is real. They are simply shadows of the one decision already made in the mind to be separate from God”. From the Course’s perspective, these worldly options are “choice among illusions,” which means they do nothing to change the underlying cause of our seeming existence. The only meaningful choice—the only place where true power lies—is in the mind’s decision-maker: “Our one responsibility is to choose the Holy Spirit instead of the ego. Once that choice is made consistently, the world’s decisions fade into the background and lose all meaning”. When this choice is made fully and permanently, awakening follows, and even the illusion of choice disappears because in Heaven there is only oneness, where no decision is needed. ___________ 1️⃣ The Mind’s Hidden Choice: The “Decision-Maker” Ken emphasized that beneath all the noise of the world, there’s a quiet point in the mind—the decision-maker—that is always choosing between: Ego: separation, guilt, judgment. Holy Spirit: forgiveness, peace, correction. (awareness of being aware, the I am) “The purpose of being in this dream is to use the ‘classroom’ to forgive the belief that one is a dream figure and remember that one is a decision-making mind that can choose to remember one’s Oneness with God”. This choice is subtle because it is not about fixing or rearranging the dream (the script), but simply which teacher interprets it. 2️⃣ Why It Looks Complicated In the script, you seem to make thousands of choices every day—what to say, eat, or do. Ken said these “choices” are just projections of the one hidden decision already made for separation: “All the forms of the world are the same because they all come from the same content: the belief in separation. The Holy Spirit’s goal is to teach us to see past the form to the content and choose again”. So the only real decision isn’t between jobs, partners, or actions—it’s between ego or Spirit in how you look at all of it. 3️⃣ How to Practice the One Choice Ken often explained that this “choice” is made through observation without judgment: Notice the guilt or fear (ego) behind a reaction. Acknowledge you’ve chosen it. Hand it over to the Holy Spirit, letting Him reinterpret it. “Seeing everything as an opportunity to make another choice… realizing it’s coming from a choice I’ve made in my mind that can, through the Holy Spirit, be healed”. This is the practical way we “connect with Spirit.” 4️⃣ The Disappearance of Choice As you choose the Holy Spirit more consistently, the ego’s voice fades, and so does the need for choice: “When the mind has been completely healed, the decision-maker is no longer needed. Choice disappears because truth is all that remains”. This is what the Course calls the real world, the last step before God “takes us back,” where no decision is necessary because there is no longer an alternative to truth. 💡 Key takeaway: Your job isn’t to fix the script or control thoughts—it’s simply to choose Spirit instead of the ego, again and again, until choice itself is undone. ------------------- Yeh when I let my ego go just today for a few hours it got crazy and angry. Whenever I lose touch with Spirit, purity side of me things go out of control, I become angry, mad, dissatisfied. That's ego for you. So all of these people on this forum and teachers like Lisa Cairns, Balsekar, and others who says there is no choice are deluded. When u are enlightened and come back to God then yes choice disappears, but now, you do have it and you need to use it to stay rooted in the I am. It is going well for me - I spent hours in bliss this morning. Is it not the end and still ways to go? sure. should I be mad that it takes so long and try to do it quicker? Nope. That's ego creeping in. I was already floating in pleasant bliss and peace, let me just deepen that and I will be on my way back to God, just need patience.

What I used to do up until now is when a judgement came into the mind I'd try to let it go or just say in my mind -- this isn't true, or this isn't nice. Maybe that causes stress and guilt, maybe it's best to belive that this is all just happening automatically, these judgements are automatic, no one is responsible for them, there is no me, it's all just happening and the result is no guilt and freedom? Let's test and see.

I wonder if believing you have no free will at all is happiness, because you then don’t resist anything and don’t want to change anything since you believe that’s not even an option? So you’re like a bottle in watter simply carried wherever currents take you.

Actually, it's not true that this state is perfectly satisfactory, because if it was, I wouldn't have any other desires, like when I was on psychedelics. If I'm truly, deeply in God, in love, then I don't have any other desires for food or sex or video games. Why? Well, because I'm truly satisfied, fulfilled, full of love. Now, I'm happy that this state is coming up, where I'm not only spacious and peaceful, but also there's some bliss, but at this level, it's not completely satisfactory. It's okay, I'm grateful, but it could be like a hundred times more, and maybe then I would be satisfied, because now it's just okay, it's just pleasant peace.

When I woke up, I didn't feel that great, but I just continued meditating in bed, and I think because I deepened the level of silence, I entered the realm of bliss. So now, even when speaking, I'm connected to not only this vast, boundless silence, but that silence is now filled with bliss. It's not the ultimate, like God's love, but it's quite satisfying. So I'm happy about it. I've been laying in bed for now, like, three, four hours, just enjoying that bliss. I also thought maybe when I'm connected to this bliss, I can get inspired ideas on how to make millions or who to text, but I found zero such inspiration. I thought, okay, maybe the lesson is to stop seeking and asking for such specific things, because Jesus says asking for specifics is praying for destruction. So I thought, okay, let me check. Is this silence and love really fully satisfying? Is it completely true that I need nothing else? And I saw that, wow, yeah, I could spend the rest of my life in this silence and be completely satisfied, considering that it grows deeper and deeper the more I spend time here. So I really don't need a partner, money, or anything else. This silence is everything. This love is everything. There is nothing I need. I can just relax, be in my bed, and have everything. Everything that I ever wanted. The satisfying love that's at the root of all desire. I have it as long as I don't seek for it in externals. I can enjoy externals, but when I begin to seek and search, instead of just doing nothing, it goes away paradoxically.

Keith: If you're trying to become anything, a holy ego miracle worker, a do-gooder, you're dreaming, trapped in the matrix of the mind, dreaming useless absurdities about a dream. This is about unbecoming. Everything you think you are. All of which is fiction. To find out what you've been all along. THAT'S the purification that's necessary first. "Through Him you learn how to forgive the self you think you made, and let it disappear. Thus you return your mind as one to Him Who is your Self, and Who can never sin." Lesson 121 You can't polish a turd. ———— The Saint is a man who disciplines his ego. The Sage is a man who rids himself of his ego. Wu Wu Wei There seem to two kinds of searchers: those who seek to make their ego something other than it is, i.e. holy, happy, unselfish (as though you could make a fish unfish), and those who understand that all such attempts are just gesticulation and play-acting, that there is only one thing that can be done, which is to disidentify themselves with the ego, by realising its unreality, and by becoming aware of their eternal identity with pure being. Wu Wu Wei Doctrines, scriptures, sutras, essays, are not to be regarded as systems to be followed. They merely contribute to understanding. They should be for us a source of stimulation, and nothing more... Adopted, rather than used as a stimulus, they are a hindrance. https://terebess.hu/zen/mesterek/weiwuwei.htmlWei Wu Wei, alias Terence Gray (1895-1986)

Ken and Keith, so Jesus as well, teach that you shouldn't attempt to change your ego - your psychological, thinking self. Keep it as it is, it can't change, just observe it without getting involved in it. That's so true - trying to change or fix your thoughts is such a bother, and at this point, even after all that practice I see how the mind is as angry and evil as it was before all the work. It will never change, that is its nature. What you do is observe it and begin to detach your sense of self from it.

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Importantly, I see that positionalities make me unhappy. They zap enjoyment out of life. So it's always wrong thing to do. Although there is some attraction to it. Like romanticizing that you only had one partner and there's nothing else for you to find here. You can find enjoyment in those positionalities. Some egoic juice, as David Hawkins would put it. But in the end, they do make you unhappy, close-minded. And there might be gifts that relationships or situations are there to bestow upon you. And because you have a positionality, you won't be able to receive that gift. So yeah, it's better to have no positionalities, just be open-minded and just go with the flow, with everything.

Okay, so I have a sharp pain in my chest when thinking that that girl is slutty and only surface-level sexy, and she will not provide any value for me, I should only think about my ex and just isolate myself, and not attempt to get into any relationships. So that clearly means it's a wrong thing to do. It's another positionality. I just have one positionality after another in my mind. I should just drop this one in terms of relationships as well. I should just keep everything very open-minded and open-ended. I shouldn't think that, oh, this will not be a good relationship, she's too slutty, or all of these judgments. I should just go with the flow, whatever happens, happens. I should stop making these assumptions, thinking I know what's good, what's bad, how that relationship will look like, getting into a positionality. So yeah, dropping that and just being open-minded and going with the flow.

My colleague is trying to set me up with her friend, but no.. just no.. i was being polite, I mean she’s surface level sexy, but compared to my ex she’s nothing, I wont be able to fall inlove with her, why waste my time? I already tried being with these mid-level, background character NPC girls, but they’re just empty. I’m often nin-judgemental And can tolerate them and be with them, but there’S no deep love there. My love was the incarnation of Saint Mary. It’s natural then, that, comparatively, nothing comes close. Girls even tell me they see that I am pretending that I like them. And that’s true.. I should be honest with myself and others and say: I was inlove with a perfect woman, no one will ever come close to her and I will never be able to love anyone else. There’s freedom in this. I am open to meeting her again or someone like her, but for now and the last 10 years — I haven’t met a single woman in this dream that is as divine as her. And it makes sense that I was the one to he with her for 4 years, given I’m the only on here. All those times clubbing, tinder, etc, all those girls were nothing, just ghosts in my dream I feel nothing for. They don’t have the divine spark in them and the perfect beauty my ex had. I’m satisfied, I can die peacefully after that relationship, nothing better can ever happen in this dream.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DLuwEWqIVgG/?igsh=MXNkODZ3eWE0Yjd3Mw== Top comment so true. New girls, after like 8 years still feel like cheating. And no one comes close to her, she was in a different dimension in all ways. I’d rather have one month with her than a lifetime with anyone else.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DLBdIeXtKre/?igsh=cTZlMW8xazdpaTA= aand that’s no cap, can’t find anyone who’s at this level

Okay, so my idea to be antisocial is still oppositionality, and once again, I don't know what's best for me. It's an arrogant thing to do, to say, I won't be social, that's better. I don't know what's better. And today, it seems like it's better to just go with the flow. If social situations happen, just be in social situations, and if you're alone, just be alone. Maybe those social situations can be helpful and fun, even for awakening, so yeah, I should drop all positionalities, including this antisocial one.

I don't think I need to study hard and write essays on Ken's teachings. Perhaps from now on, all I have to do is be still and walk in that stillness until the end of my life without really doing anything special. Just working at my day job, surviving, practicing, surrendering to whatever happens, not striving to achieve anything, that's it. Will probably still exercise, eat food, play video games, whatever, just being sort of normal. Although I do think I will keep my mindset of not really spending time with ego's -- it's valueless, I prefer being alone. Hakim said all advanced spiritual students prefer being alone. Makes sense. SO that's it, a very simple life - practicing presence, living normally and isolated, working at my dayjob, trying to maintain non-conclictual life, nothing else to do really.