Gennadiy1981

Well then you clearly misunderstood the idea of what is being chosen. The idea of being chosen is that God chose us to first reveal Himself to us so that later on we can bring the idea of Oneness to the entire world and we kinda did the job, today most people are monotheists. This does not mean that we are better or smarter or wiser. Psychologically, most people want to be animalistic and barbaric and when this idea of stage blue was introduced to stage red society, it was not accepted at first by many. I am not parading stage blue, but people in that stage have higher moral grounds, they are more into family values and self care. You need to understand that whether you like it or not, religion helped humanity to elevate at least one stage up. But the mystics were not ready to reveal full religion and only revealed the surface of it as people on stage red would not understand and I believe it will be revealed in portion. I really think most people dont have an idea if what real God is, and explaining the Infinite, people would just loose it, so religion is like explaining to a child, once the person matures then we can go to a different level. So you should know Leo has few series on What is God and its pretty much the same explanation the mystics had.

Thats disgusting coming from you and very primitive, unless you describe yourself such.

You cant compare, as Romans invaded our country as they had their own country, the Nazis killed us just because we re Jews, we never said that one day we will make Germany a new Israel. As I keep saying this is an Arab Jewish conflict. I am advocating for the transfer of population, this is not something unusual. After WW2, 8 million ethnic Germans were removed from Poland and 4 million were removed from Czechoslovakia. In 1923 Greece and Turkey exchanged I believe 6 million people, in 1946 India and Pakistan exchanged 17 million people and this is only in the twentieth century. I am offering a viable solution, because everything else fails. Unless you really want to see wars and people getting killed. Is that something you want and crave. Of course there is also another solution for all of us to leave, but the thing is we have no other home.

@jimwell The Nazis hated us as many others is because we bring morality and ethics to the world. And for your info, in that video above most people were not Jews. Believe me most Jews support the State of Israel the way I do, fortunately, otherwise the State would cease to exist. Also your sympathy towards us is really irreverent, we could care less what you think. @Tobia I am not aware of such document you posted but I humbly think it would be best case scenario, consider the Sinai Peninsula is mostly vacant, to relocate Gazans there and build them homes and infrastructure would be great. They would have so much moving freedom and way much more landscape. I dont know how they even live in Gaza such a small silver of land, they are suffocating there. I really hope that is the case and the UN should also help.

@Breakingthewall Thank you. As far as calling us extremists in terms of survival, well when you are persecuted for two thousand years, you may end up being extreme in survival and at the end of the day it is what is left. Look if we had to deal with intellectuals like yourself and people on this forum it would have been different talk, but we are dealing with very low conscious people where force is the only language. As far as coexisting, we are not looking for coexisting. Its not possible to coexist with people are differ in every aspect you can name. And as I said before, form the bottom of my heart, I wish Palestinians well among their brethren in any of the 21 Arab states or 56 Muslim states or European states or even USA. Honestly, I wish them well, the only viable solution is separation, anything else will lead to a blood shed. The longer the two people live together the more blood will be spilled. You guys do not seem to get it, the mentality there is different. You want to impose us living together, well this will be the result. Fine today we will destroy Hamas, tomorrow there will be Hamas 2.0 and they will attack another festival and then we will go again into Gaza and then we will have another topic on this forum where everyone will be stating their point of view, and so on. The biggest picture and deep issue here that coexistence is not possible, its a marriage that is not meant to be.

@Nivsch Did you noticed you keep answering the same question over and over. Those who are blind will ignore you and be asking the same question just using different words. I believe this was the sixth time or fifth that you keep repeating yourself. I tried counting but got mixed at one point. By the way all, I actually was not sarcastic about bible, what I said in previous one seems to hold true. Note how people filter what the other side says. I am really reading down the posts and all arguments just go the other way, they skip through the ears. See how deep the issue is.

Why is everyone so obsessed with Israel and the Jews. What about Ukrainians and Russians? What about Iran and how minorities are treated there? Apparently we are a hot topic, thats the price we need to bear for being chosen. What can I do. You know all my life I was trying to walk away from religion but I see the prophecy is, it keeps pulling us back to it. That is says we need to be light unto the nations and when we are not the world will get upset at us. It says the world will calm down when we start teaching them about God. I guess I have no choice but to start teaching you guys. Too bad this form does not have section that is dedicated to religion.

I am reading the posts here and basically to summarize it all. None of us will agree with others, this is all verbal masturbation. I will not convince you and you will not convince me. And thats fine and its beautiful. Don't worry we Jews survived for thousands of years and we will survive more. People are biased and they refuse to listen to any side and thats reality. I think at this point on, it is only entertaining of words. I think we should switch to another topic.

Thanks but no thanks. I would rather have my own state where I can make my rules and not be dependent on others.

@PurpleTree Thats ok you can be pro whatever you want, I am not here to tell you what to do. All I want is a safe Jewish State thats all. We have Christian States and Muslim States and secular States and democratic States and God bless all of them. I want to see all states prosper with love and peace and I want to have my one Jewish State. I am happy with the small territory I have which is the size of New Jersey and thats good for me now.

I am not sure which country you are from but you are more than welcome to make a two state solutions at your home and I will be more than happy to cheer and scream Yay and will pray for you and will praise you and will have you as an example to all nations.

@PurpleTree And so is America that by the way, the whites had no biblical or spiritual claim to USA, but none of you open any topics about it, you stole from Indians fair and square. Hey, then the entire world is colonizer. Big deal.

Well we were suppose to get the entire Palestine Mandate and by the way they illegally cut 77% of the mandate and made a fictitious state called Jordan and our Jewish houses were demolished and removed. OK I bite it thats step one when we take Jews to our remaining site and we give them Palestinians to their side and we call it even and fair.

Israel is not the one colonizing. What are we colonizing, you are stating that Palestine was a flourish country once, but the fact is Palestine never existed until early 1960s for one reason only, to wipe Israel off the face of the earth. Really you are saying that 1967 territories are an obstacle to peace? Well what bothered the Arab world before 1967, why did they made a war in 1948, in 1956 and even in 1967 when they had the territories? I am sure its not the 67 territories that bothered them. What bothered Arabs to make pogroms in 1921 in Safed, 1928 Jerusalem, 1929 in Hebron, form 1936-1938 horrible programs, when there was no even state of Israel? I will tell you what bothered them, just the existence that there can be any state of any size or shape. I understand that and I respect their decision, but then dont blame us for acting the way we do. Honestly, from the bottom of my heart, I wish the Arabs of Israel well, elsewhere. God bless their 21 one ethnic Arab states that they have, we have only one state, not two or three but one state and I dont intend to loose it.

Lol, I will give you a very unpopular answer that you may not like but its true. God has been very kind to us and He gave us nuclear weapons. I think that tells you everything.

OK i gotta give you credit for that. But then don't blame us for doing what we do. This world is a jungle then i guess.

I personally do not condemn Israel for bombing, because that is how wars are fought. During WW2, when allied forces were bombing Dresden and Berlin, whom do you think they were killing, S.S. troops, generals? They were killing innocent civilians. When US threw an atomic bomb n Hiroshima and Nagasaki, wee you aware that those were civilian areas and not military zones. What I am trying to say is that you fight war with people. It is people who elect their government. Look war is a terrible thing, but sometimes its terrible necessary. When i was a young kid, I approached a surgeon once, and asked him a question, coming form a kid, how can he cut people with a scalp. He answered me that stick with me for the rest of my life. He said, "I have to hurt people in order to heal them".

@Nabdfirst of all, you should be proud of who you are, you don’t need to convert. To answer your question a person is Jewish either he or she is born from the mother or the sincerely convert. So, if you do decide to convert, you will be equally Jewish as I am. And hey, you never know maybe you’ll help me answer some items on this form.

@PurpleTreeThe first video you uploaded describes a very small group of 20-30 people who are on the payroll of PLO and they are not recognized in jewish world. Do you know that their children cannot attend Yeshivat. Now you want to hear an authentic Rabbi who does represent Judaism check out below. Your second video about Massiah, sounds more like conspiracy, but what I don’t know I won’t debate. Rabbi Kadouri was a mystic and interestingly he has many similar topics about the soul which Leo describes as consciousness. Honestly, listening to him when he describes outer world, I think that he had to try some psychedelics.

What I meant to say, is, if juice put the weapons, there would not be Israel, hence, we need to do anything to defend it. It is on the contrary, it is the spiritual fantasy as you call it, kept us alive. Indeed we lived as a minority among other nations and many other nations who did not had homelands totally extinct, you can only see them in museums and encyclopedias. We are on the other hand alive and well. We have a saying that “the more the Jews kept the sabbath, the more the Sabbath kept the Jews.

No that is not said in the Bible, that’s a text out of context. The Messiah will become king and build a temple that is what said in the Bible and (for weak minded people please do not read further) Israel will expand its borders from the river of Egypt (Nile) to the great river Euphrates (Iraq)

Thank you @Breakingthewall and @Twentyfirst I accept it as a compliment. You can see that I am sincere and honest person and do not have back thoughts. You may be right. Listen we Jews always had hardship so nothing new under the sun. They say the more things change the more they remain the same. Again going back to Bible, it says clear there, that as long as Jews would sin God would punish with calamities, once Jews embrace God’s commandments then they would live in peace. I am not going further in it but that is the main point. Whether we agree with the Bible or disagree it keep proving itself over and over, I don’t know what to say to this but burning it off, I also can’t. I never said I want to see war, every person wants to live in peace, it’s just I know if we put down weapons tomorrow we will not exist. It’s self survival here at stake. Why I am on this form? I do a lot of self development and actualization. I listen to Leo’s lectures and I truly understand them, I really appreciate the depth of his wisdom where many of you here actually don’t and I see most people criticism of Leo’s work by the way. Now I don’t mean you personally but people on this forum. Leo does say very wise stuff and I don’t mean to suck up, I can appreciate deep and thorough depth of human consciousness. To be honest I have not found such depth anywhere else and tell you the truth it has to do with using psychedelics form my opinion as they truly open up a person.

Well neither are we. We are not going anywhere whether you like it or not. This land was promised to us by God, so we’re staying here. We don’t need any more land. Indeed, if we were to make a land somewhere else, it would fail, why, because that’s God‘s decision, and not ours. I’m not speaking as a religious fanatic, historically, I see that divine power is way above this whole thing. There were some crazy individuals before the state of Israel was born, and they wanted to make state somewhere else, some in South America, some in Africa, some in Europe, but every time it failed, and in only succeeded in the land of Israel. Like it was prophesies in the Bible menu thousand years ago. How will you beat that fact?

Then you don’t know anything about Judaism. First of all, we were kicked out of Israel, 2000 years ago by Roman‘s, and second of all for three times a day, every single day we prayed to return to Zion. For every holiday, we added additional prayers to return to Jerusalem. So you can see we do not have ties it was something embedded in us. In addition, many Jews did come to settle throughout middle ages and especially in the beginning of 20th Century wave before the word Palestinian even existed.

I would love to do the swap, the other way let’s build Palestine in United States and leave Israel alone. Or built Palestine in Saudi Arabia that has a lot of land, mostly uninhabited and speaking on behalf of Israel we will be more than happy to compensate for all the properties.