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No, only one. how did you get to that conclusion?

yes, and?

Isn't that what you are doing as well?

And what is that difference?

Because my actions caused your body to move... And they still are...

Haha you had to move your body to type that. Therefore, I moved your body.

Ok so does this mean that this conversation we are having is God interacting with itself through separate dreams? Also is every single person a separate dream?

Interesting. Do the dreams interact with each other? I.e. if i do something in 1 dream does it affect the other dreams?

Actually I can move your body. I can push you, or lift you up. That counts as me moving your body.

copied from my journal: While working with my existential dread and nihilism, instead of avoiding it, I jumped straight into the fire and fully embraced these feelings and I ended up facing my shadow. All my preconceived notions of shadow work were wrong. The shadow isn't just a part, Its an entire world filled with darkness, dread, hatred and malevolence. And its been here all along pulling the strings. I understand why its called the shadow now. My shadow isn't just a part, It is me! Its just as much me as the conscious me, just a dark aspect of me that never sees the light of consciousness. Everything I hated out in the world was inside me all along being projected outwards. I thought, I was suppressing it, but its been in control the entire time. If my self is a reflection of the light of consciousness, then my shadow self is a reflection of the void. Once I embraced by shadow, all my existential dread remained, but to my shadow, the dread was ok, it was just one of many emotions in the void. The experience was equal in intensity to a psychedelic trip although none have allowed me to access my shadow like IFS therapy. The shadow hasn't changed, It's just been illuminated. I don't know what the consequences will be or if I can even trust my shadow, but its not like I was ever in control in the first place. I can only allow things to unfold. I tried to draw my experience with midjourney:

Thanks for reminding me about this. I get frustrated with these distracting parts because they impede my progress. I often forget to view these parts with compassion and curiosity.

As critical of you as I am sometimes, I understand that making big changes in your personality and habits is extremely difficult. Thank you for at least admitting it. Good luck in your journey. ??

Having tried both, IFS is far superior.

Yes that's true. Its hard to see it that way though.

^^^ this. Yes. self love is absolutely key.

Damn, I'm getting huge protector backlash after meeting my shadow. I guess my protector parts really didn't want me to do that. I probably should have asked them for more permission but oh well...

Thanks. Not many of my friends are into this type of shit tho

I was doing IFS by myself.

Holy shit! I just confronted my shadow. While working with my existential dread and nihilism, instead of avoiding it, I jumped straight into the fire and fully embraced these feelings and I ended up facing my shadow. All my preconceived notions of shadow work were wrong. The shadow isn't just a part, Its an entire world filled with darkness, dread, hatred and malevolence. And its been here all along pulling the strings. I understand why its called the shadow now. My shadow isn't just a part, It is me! Its just as much me as the conscious me, just a dark aspect of me that never sees the light of consciousness. Everything I hated out in the world was inside me all along being projected outwards. I thought, I was suppressing it, but its been in control the entire time. If my self is a reflection of the light of consciousness, then my shadow self is a reflection of the void. Once I embraced by shadow, all my existential dread remained, but to my shadow, the dread was ok, it was just one of many emotions in the void. The experience was equal in intensity to a psychedelic trip although none have allowed me to access my shadow like IFS. The shadow hasn't changed, It's just been illuminated. I don't know what the consequences will be or if I can even trust my shadow, but its not like I was ever in control in the first place. I can only allow things to unfold. I tried to draw my experience with midjourney:

Fair enough. I disagree but I understand your sentiment. If I was somehow, trapped in a baby body with an extreme deformity such that my life was constantly suffering, I would want to be euthanized and someone keeping me alive would be doing it against my will. Its hard because you can't really understand the will of such a baby.

I guess that's what antinatalists are. I find myself getting super triggered by them but when I introspect, I find that a part of me is also just like them. Do you think its acceptable to euthanise a baby if it has a really severe disability or genetic defect such that their life will be short and full of constant suffering? Surely it's the most compassionate option since by not doing so, you are dooming them to a life of horrific suffering?

I find myself getting triggered a lot by highly pessimistic and nihilistic people. I was browsing the antinatalist subreddit and a lot of the things they were saying provoked a visceral reaction in me because they were so against my values. I then realised that this reaction was caused my a firefighter part trying to suppress an exile. The exile was my inner worry, doubt and pessimism. Thoughts like, what if I'm wrong and reality is just fundamentally negative and awful? This gets triggered by extreme negativity and pessimism towards life and humanity.

lol good luck.

I agree with all of your points, but antinatalism has a deeper philosophy. Banatar's asymmetry argues that the absence of pain is a good thing but thr absence of pain is not bad. As long as no being is deprived of said happiness, then it is, as he puts it, "not bad" I've been reading about it and a surprising number of philosophers are into it. Antinatalism sees birth as an inherently negative thing and their endgame is the extinction of the human species.

@Emerald What's your view on antinatalism? The antinatalist would argue that abortion or killing the baby painlessly reduces the total suffering in the world. Especially if its disabled. I don't necessarily agree but I find it interesting.