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I may have answers for you. Ask as nuanced of questions as you like. Not trolling. Though humour has much bandwidth here. Do I have a responsibility being at a higher level of enlightenment than others and if you think I do what do you think it is? I want creativity. ========================================= No drugs allowed here, at least in this discussion. Feel free to play frisbee here as well:

I shouldn't put the following one below in a journal that I've titled Creative Writing so. You can say whatever you want here but in advance I'm going to be an asshole, just my straight self, nothing else, unless you somehow creatively move me otherwise.

Well I guess there's no real doubt that I'm at stage coral and above. That's purely based on the model presented here as its presented. Given the quality of forum discussions I wasn't so sure just how interested people would be regarding higher levels of for lack of a better way of phrasing it, "integration points", however in light of this model I can make elaborations that would also provide a pathway for people to be like an informed tourist when it comes to the ability to walk closer towards this end point as well as have an understanding from a second-hand experiential point of view, so the actual aesthetics, of what it feels like at higher levels. I can do this incrementally within a journal. It's seriously not a big deal by the way. These things are not "amazing", I'm not even an advocate of spiral dynamics I'm just looking at a set of patterns that may or may not be useful for everyone when it comes to navigating their awareness to higher levels. It's all just a natural part of progressing in anything, like learning the guitar or running on the treadmill, people are notorious for highlighting contrasts to the average though of course. For anyone that believes themselves to be at this level I'd love to converse with you via private message (or questions/points here are fine as well) so that we can learn from one another. I seriously doubt it but hey, its possible. Peace out rebels without a cause.

I am the most perfect being that has ever existed.

My brain is... Super energised right now. In the moment revelations as I attempt to gain ownership over my state (bare in mind I'm yet to develop the language to describe the culture that exists outside this identification with "I", and believe me I know you've heard a thousand people talk about it by this time in your life I get it, it can be an annoying subject, but yes there definitely exist alternate ways of experiencing your sense of self, you'll have to wait until you can self verify) you need to build a plan for organising how the brains resources are going to be used throughout the day, look at the brains resources as like basketballs you're lining up for the hoop right yeah you get it, energy balls. you need to know how to speed up the brain and slow down the brain moreover you need to know the effects of various behaviours on future behaviour so that you can test to see how well effects correlate with desired actions For example, I have just been in hysterics (lots of fun, laughing, etc) with some people I know for the past few hours and that's likely released enormous amounts of dopamine in my brain which has some pros and cons because of course there's also various kinds of dopamine, at present because I'm one of those over-excitables (yeah you can look it up) I'm right now acting like I have ADHD a little haha its difficult to get my brain to a speed and rhythm where its able to find deep concentrated thought. You can however literally learn to hone different states as you become accustomed to understanding this relationship between brain speed and rhythm with behaviour versus your desired outcomes. You can also take a more direct approach by actively training to shift from emotional/energetic state A to state B as well as following as needed a sophisticated identification process, that may or may not need to include activating the memory centres (its not worth doing it unless this is coupled with states that are going to encourage deeper contemplation of course). Either way you go they'll be a learning bridge to each other. When you wish to move to deeper states, shift the body mind mechanism through the power of energetic being but coupled as well to a process I'm happy to share that I came up with called thought streaming. Consider any subject you wish to contemplate. Start anywhere you want or as logically as you want. Hold that first element in mind and focus in on it carefully with your minds eye, scan it for further patterns, this is great if you're visually inclined but in general I'd like you to encompass your entire imagination or simply as much that would under ideal conditions have great utility. After the first scan, move to a second scan where you concentrate on more of the abstractions/abstract that can be generated from what you're examining. With every abstraction, scan further patterns between those abstractions. Your head may begin to hurt haha and if you begin to break a sweat don't reach for the towel I need you to Rocky Balboa this. I want you to sit in the tension of this. Next I want you to sway back and fourth gently only as a body to mind activation technique where you trigger the mind from the body to begin to find a rhythm in the mental action that you're performing. You're mind is now perfecting the art of the timing involved in what you're doing, aka, you're slowing down the mind in one aspect and speeding it up in another to perfect your ability to perform this task. Now you're at a point where you're getting better and better at honing the deeper mind state while and in conjunction with using this thought streaming tool as a complementary mechanism. More and more this will become a trigger point that you can self initiate as you remember the state itself and can activate it with the same feeling of competence that you would in the same way as you do shifting to a different state as described above. So it becomes analogous to muscle memory right. Thank me later bitches (as it'll take a bit of practice before you notice effects, but who knows you may pick it up quickly). Lastly, feel free to improve upon these off the cuff notes I've made here as I will do so myself. Otherwise there's elements to the described thought streaming process that are a little too complicated for mention unless I were to describe something with greater intensity. These are however the only necessary raw ingredients for building from that point.

This is all so fucking hilarious though of course (see all the way below as well). And just to chalk up like a late professor with squeeky chalk and an oversized bottom rubbing up against desks brought too close to the board as a consequence of an over-enrolled class (kids gonna put my buttcheeks on YT no doubt, kids these days eh): In the context of how I've framed the above the reason for why it looks like some males are taking a more female strategy and some females are taking a more male strategy, in part (so inclusive and exclusive to the way I framed it above) is because those males and females are simply playing lower level genetic games relative to the metric you’re comparing them against. That's simply it, they're less genetically fit in that area. Clone them in the form of their opposite gender and you’ll see those game theoretic strategies play out as lensed where said inferior fitness is instead masked. @Emerald I'll read your above comment later darl, I'm sure its a treat. Otherwise to someone else, stop this haha! Don't be so cute like that! I know what you're doing!

@Emerald Gosh, it's so fascinating the modalities of consciousness and the ways in which the mind can construct information within loose to rigid dimensions, this of course being me imagining how reality is created in your mind to its nuances, panoramic view of intuition is still nonetheless useful of course. All of these being energetic of course, to me the final generality is one of energy within and among the multiplicity and simultaneity of energy. The world unfolds in front of our eyes, our eyes are our imagination, always, assertions appear as decisions, decisions appear as authority, authority appears as agency, agency appears as the will of self, the will of self people equate to some ultimate will of god. At the end of that, all the way at the end of it, not just in the middle even if it is only a horizon line, does any of this actually exist in a world where all human brains are reset and cultural norms have to be rediscovered? So when social brain A starts talking to social brain B, the wheels begin to turn and A to B finally become AB and BA to produce a long line of C to C 100 and beyond, if you agree that we don't have complete biological determinism, could you imagine a world in which the environmental conditions were such that humans were pressured to develop opposite inclinations because for the male it affirmed the dominance narrative and for females it affirmed the survival narrative? This is basic game theory that we're forced to play out, so in this scenario, to play out what is legitimately biological determinism as a matter of being constrained by other inevitable pressures, like a lion and the lion environment in general as a metaphor, what is absurd about a male choosing because its a dominant strategy to gossip and a female because its a more safe strategy to be even more covert in an alternate world like this here we could imagine? Why would this not already be happening in other demographics then where due to neuroplasticity and changing environmental pressures but the same male disposition to seek a more dominant strategy on average and a female to seek a more protective strategy on average, males are taking on the cultural stereotype of female toxicity and females male toxicity? Can we thus agree then that what we're dealing with here is the world of likely chosen quality of strategy that selects for behaviours that corresponds to that strategy as opposed to behaviours that always purely correspond to a certain underlying innate strategic albeit genetic imperative? I like the way you think though, experientially gestalt away... Autobiography, the emotional world of photographic social images, changing our energies in reflection continuously, and reflection both creating and originating those images from the self's interface of genetically induced psychoemotional instructive hardware. This is a hardware discussion for me more than it is what is to be equated with more the malware here that I'm attempting to hack and delicately remove ever so subtly, even if only slightly. A blemish away, a new blemish to integrate. A response to:

When a babe disrespects her pimp tho. Or she's been slummin where I didn't say she could slum. I'll have open ears but if that doesn't equate to dollars and always more than 95 cents... Look at me. Just look at me. Fuck. Composing sexy music. Releasing tracks nxt month.

They're culturally fitted to perfecting the art of flying monkeys that's for sure! So many dudes lost out in custody battles, marriages and you name it tampon commercial showing a woman how to make a man bleed through social warfare!

Yeah I disagree. There's so many factors that come into play. Tell me what is your sample size exactly? This just sounds based on intuitions and those intuitions are generated from what mental potions? They're made from the unclever hands of cultural influences, what the mind immediately projects. The other distinction I'd make reference here to is quantity. Men in general should have a greater ability when it comes to tolerating the stress of a situation and acting strategically, a woman however will more likely lash out in the gossipping sense. Stress tolerance is the primary differentiating variable but yeah there's plenty of pansy ass men that an't got no balls that will play up the classic feminine male stereotype + they're probably also gay and maybe a hermaphrodite as well so can't decide whether to shoot or receive the loins, but that's just playing into the extremity of the stereotype.

Nah it's all just toxic ego, ego latches onto whatever identity is created by a given culture and biology runs that through a consciousness reinforcement feedback loop and then culture returns some kind of intellectual consensus on what's considered toxic versus not via a social feedback loop. Yal have an outdated understanding of human psychology is all. I've seen guys behave in the exact same way as females i.e. as per @Emerald Golden Star just in a more macho way. Am I green, eggs and ham or am I just ready to be seen, have my legs spread lean and be a bit more woman to man? We need to always aim for a more perceptually granular comprehension of the world, we are artists not brick layers here, being a bricky is for persistence, precision and purpose not for creating a world from scratch though.

Obviously the real moral of the story is all she needs is a good fuck. At least in this situation. And specifically from you if you're the dude in the story. Work it out (as in, it's time to break a sweat).

Haha that shit cracks me up everytime I read it, fucking funny!

What is true love? HER: (#*&#$%*(&#$(%*&#($%&(*#&$(*&#*(&(**&%&* YOU: I've just been sick for the last few days. Who knows maybe I was on the brink of death you know how bad it was and now you're giving me this? Shouldn't you be happy that I'm happy right now? HER: #$(*%&(#*$%)#*$(*$#&%&(*#$&*% YOU: [Wait... I think I understand.... Nope. I don't.... I seriously thought that'd by me some leeway.... . still waiting.... Nope....] By the way this disclaimer... HER: Oh sorry yeah I forgot about that. YOU: Oh great we're on the same page again this is good. This is all so logical I'm really glad we could... HER: #($*%&^*($&##$*&%^(*&#$(*&(#$&(*&#$^(*&$ YOU: Listen babe I still have no idea what this was about but I was born with dignity. This is all too immature. I'm going to leave the room and when I'm back we can reconvene on this because heck I hell know that there's a universe that's waiting for my healed healing version ready to do some Jesus stuff that I can't let down. Tale as long as you need, I'll be sipping margaritas of life across the stars in the meantime. HER: *($*(#$)*(^&(*)#$*()&)(*#@&)*(&(@* YOU: Looks at messages one week later. "New message: Hey...." Acts excited. Opens message, reads "&*&(*&^(*#&$*(&@#(*@&^#*$(&" . Oh fuck you say. Closes message. Decides to wait another week. Keeps on partying. Hits the 6 wk mark. Finally there's some normalcy again. HER: (Somehow discovers your interpretation of true love after achieving that level of normalcy you had) *&^(&^(*&^(*&^(*&%^(*&%(*&%(& YOU: (Oh God not again) Babe I just helped millions of people with that understanding of true love! Who else do you see me have patience for like this! HER: Where were you when I didn't want to speak to you? YOU: Well... I was OUT. You know.... Away... Because.... That doesn't even make sense! HER: *(&^)*&^*(&986(*&^9876(876*(76 Moral of the story? Make her sick too at the exact same time . It's the only way she'd understand.

@Someone here your feelings and emotions aren't you either. Let me know if you need me to explain the reference. 1, the other and especially in combination is people's biggest hurdle, and you're right. It's so scary for people, I have memories coming to my mind now in my early twenties stuck in this loop of neuro-electrical ignorance, a cocktail of noise making because I thought the alcoholism in the form of thoughtism was truly taking me somewhere meaningful, somewhere beyond the imaginary edge of cognitive relativism that explains all differences in perception across time within and between individuals. Don't be a cliff hanger is one reference I could make up, let go, embrace the chaos. These are all just pies in the form of thoughts we're just throwing in some imaginary space we're trying to call advice giving that is meant to be meaningful, you are the meaning though that's being constructed within yourself. That's the departure via awareness not meaning that needs to be deconstructed again via awareness alone. The tree of life, as symbolic as it is is simultaneously the symbol for the identity structure that's built within the psyche that we mistake as the territory, this is why the saying, "the map is not the territory" is the same as saying "non duality", its the same as saying "don't make assumptions", its the same as saying "love", they're all analogous and isomorphic simultaneously because at their raw essence they're all pointing to the same enlightenment to be derived within their felt experiential perceptual structure. @Noone Here was already taken I guess.

This how I feel about your statement: Concerning "great", which I'd shift to Greatness: And apparently everything is relative, ask only about 1 in a million Mc Donald's personnel about the theory of relativity though and just about that statement in general.

@Rishabh R It's all relative to whatever interpretation you want to take because there's multiple reference frames by which time is relative. I'll add to the list, brain speed. Now that's a mindfuck the more your mind is able to comprehend that, which is in part, correlated to your brain speed. This same example is analogous to how time travel is hypothesised as well as believe it or not the ability of Mc Donald's personnel to take down your order correctly and communicate its service between each other well.

@assx95 The language is based on her language, the emotions are based on your shared experience but it must be grounded in the sense of trust. Whatever it is that creates that trust is what you should be basing everything around. This is because our consciousness determines trust based on the perception of consistency and persistence in that consistency relative to safety and comfort, and I mean that in the microsecond sense. This is not just in relation to other human beings but literally any label we put on reality, it goes to the heart of why she feels unsafe and uncomfortable internally because she hasn't had those ingredients modelled to her in the right way. Abstractly, it is all about time. Time couples to and explains the ordering of the psychological phenomena that identify to and from consciousness that gives consciousnesses perception of reality as an identity item right to its whole framework that we denote as structure (associations like "world view" pointing outwardly from consciousness, and pointing towards the self, "self"). This is why you must have compassion, because you and billions of other humans simply don't understand how nuanced human psychology is, its totally hyper-indexed. Compassion is a relative tool relative to the ordering of an individuals consciousness within time. This is why I struggle to help people but why I would be amazing at it if I had the patience. No explanation needed of course.

Well, share your ideas. Obviously we are and we need to get on this more. This is something we need as many creative minds on as possible. Now get to it. That's all I have to say. I will engage in whatever creative discussion that is on offer this topic is pretty straight forward for me let me know if you want me to cut you in with more information or just feel free to share insights, questions and links for me so that I can feed my theorisations and subsequent implementations. Thanks bitches.

I may have answers for you. Ask as nuanced of questions as you like. Not trolling. Though humour has much bandwidth here. Do I have a responsibility being at a higher level of enlightenment than others and if you think I do what do you think it is? I want creativity. ========================================= No drugs allowed here, at least in this discussion. Feel free to play frisbee here as well:

Just sharing a response I made to someone here in clown world (aka this forum) seeing I know so many of you struggle with purpose and meaning. An interesting someone asked my for my thoughts on the film Soul which I haven't seen however I analysed the following clip and here were my thoughts: Based on the clip: It's amazing this relationship our psychology has with the need to have a sense of accomplishment and how this is inherently tied to our sense of meaning of purpose, if we subtracted all accomplishment could we still live a meaningful life? If we had a lot of accomplishment in an area that wasn't our passion could, we still have that meaning or is accomplishment and passion inherently tied together? Or better than the word passion, love. For, could we have a sense of true meaning and purpose in our lives if we had accomplishment and love but no passion? This seems more likely than achieving passion and accomplishment but no love, for does not love define our reason to imbue ourselves with passion to pursue accomplishment? What if we had accomplishment and power but no love, would this imbue ourselves with the necessary level of meaning and purpose? I guess it would depend on the kind of power and our propensities therein. Resource power, social power, political power, mental power even, physical power and more. What would be our sense of meaning and purpose in the execution of our power if not for love? Could the desire for dominance be the sole distinguishing characteristic we need to have a sense fo meaning and purpose? Perhaps it matters our scope and perspective on life itself. If our scope and perspective is low, then we'll surely miss out on having scope and perspective on something greater than this. Scope and perspective of course is a kind of power, a kind of mental power that isn't purely raw cognitive intelligence. Even love is a kind of power of course, love for, from and to what though? And where would it be going? All in all, I think a sense of meaning and purpose is also a kind of power, something that transforms from using our mental power (inclusive of intuitive faculties) to discern and when the process is complete enough transforming that energy into an em-power-ment. Where meaning and purpose are now a kind of ideological (energetic) power we use to instruct the present moment with meaning based on our past experiences and wisest ends there. Further, isn't our highest sense of meaning and purpose based on our highest life wisdom, and if not, why wouldn't it be? It seems like the two can sometimes have a mismatch, with the former tending towards the more emotional end and the latter more the cognitive end, but if we could balance them out, then we'd also be balancing our thoughts and emotions, in doing so, creating a more honed scope and perspective on life and our direction within it. So where meaning and purpose is wisdom and where wisdom is meaning and purpose, we have scope and perspective catered for in the reality where within, for scope and perspective is also learning from the past, learning for the future and better perception on the present. Overall though, I think it is a lack of scope and perspective that people have on themselves, or rather, just the lack of simplicity in their self perception and the universe around them that they find it difficult to have a sense of meaning and purpose. And unfortunately, this is not completely their fault, for people are given their abilities at birth and they only have so much ability to improve them, which includes in the areas of scope and perspective along with advancing the character that leads to this power. Films like "Soul" (seems like based on this clip) are a great example of how we humans create imaginary narratives to act as a mirror onto our own lives and the way we navigate our own sense of meaning and purpose especially in the context of scope and perspective. One element that I'm picking up on is how of course, when we work on a particular ability more than the norm, we most certainly get to experience the heights of possible wisdom that affords us the opportunity to translate those understandings conversationally and creatively to positively impact the narratives of meaning around us, if only subtly, whether in the form of a Jazz book to impact future students or maybe its as simple But is living on the heights our objective measure for meaning and purpose? As it goes to solely power, obviously not, unless of course we're thinking of some meaningful collectivism analogous to the Brave New World mantra that gets us all wet in the pants for every new technological gadget that lands us closer to some New World Order, interestingly the word Order and Brave here in adjunct conflict. I think a Jazz musician offers an interesting example all in all because here he is exploring and exploring the heights of his ability in his own private world only to translate some of the wisdom there, while simultaneously there is a humility in the act of servicing the ears of peoples lives in cafe's and wherever else he played through the human touch in ways that said persons will never be able to truly appreciate unless they were a high-end-musician/analogous themselves able to empathise with his experiences. We see throughout cultures this relationship between the individual and the collective in the context of attempting to construct or at the very least follow some kind of meaning and purpose in their lives. Individuality is naturally proportionality at odds, though the further we go there it is inevitably individuality that leads to a kind of collectivism as those within the collective struggling for meaning seek the individual with the perceived strength to offer it. In the truest sense of the philosophy, meaning and purpose reside solely with the individual but only relative to the capacity to construct said boundaries, for construction is wittingly tied to capacity at all times of course. So good then that we don't have the schools and upbringing to imbue a greater number of people with the ability to develop enough scope and perspective on life that they can perform this existential feat. Many look at Nietzsche, not as a doorway to our own philosophy but often precisely in the way I described how the collective turns the individual into someone that feeds some kind of collectivism. If we imagine the collective as a honey comb and the bees as humans trying to develop thorough meaning and purpose, there becomes of course this intractable relationship between the individual no matter how individual he becomes as he continually deposits the honey he's accumulated from whatever flowers into the comb for the comb to develop in interesting ways; unless of course the individual just cuts themselves off completely. "Be your eyes not your ears and mouth" is a saying you could remember in this sense as it concerns remembering to look both ways before you cross the cultural road and repeat the same nonsense that the next person does. So to round out the point regarding heights of ability, it becomes a private world unto itself that should be its own meaning but not the sum of collective meaning you ascribe to your endeavour. It is the strength to the sword and shield but is it the heart? Here we can discover a personal relationship with mastery that's shared in our relationship to life in accomplishing both, for the former we have the strength in life and to the latter we have the heart in mastery. Meaning, in meaning and purpose, I believe we have to be including this pairing between life and mastery, heart and strength, and I believe the Jazz musician is reflective of that wisdom in his example in the clip. At 3:59 min/sec - “I heard this story about a fish. He swims up to an older fish and says: “I’m trying to find this thing they call the ocean.” “The ocean?” the older fish says, “that’s what you’re in right now.” “This”, says the young fish, “this is water. What I want is the ocean!” On a personal level, this is reflective of my thoughts on scope and perspective, limitations here adjacent to the myopia that holds both the individual and humanity back, the extension of this though at no greater increase in cognition, the individual is asked to conform to an overarching collectivist view of the universe. It is the individuals role to advance his heart and mind here, this should be their life quest, which runs parallel to their biological role on this planet, of which is no more greatly misinterpreted than most peoples intellectual and cultural (generally the latter) outcomes concerning meaning and purpose. Let's step outside the cultural fish bowl and experience the real thing, that's what many individuals as well privately talk about, but is much like a golden apple on a tree they see from a polite inexcusable distance that for most lays just slightly out of reach. But what choice do people have out of collectivism? At least collectivism gives them a false sense of homeliness in their short poorly thought out lives. In truth, people were not born to construct meaning and purpose, they were biologically predisposed to a sense of belonging and I believe this is what this effort serves, where it actually becomes problematic arguably is when ones abilities outweigh the herds capacity to follow the meaning and purpose they're constructing, for what is the meaning and purpose in that when you can't even pass on your wisdom? Imagine if we had an individual that thought several centuries too far into the technological distance from the perspective of cavemen times, what meaning and purpose has this person left behind when all that they've worked on has likely been lost in the first generation. This is why the individual, no matter how great they are, are ironically forced to contend with the question of how they're going to serve their need for meaning and purpose when to be in service of its highest end would be to ostracise mankind in some instances which would mean they'd leave nothing behind for very long, however to be entirely in service to mankind and the collectivist structures that surround this would be to compromise their own private sanctuary here. This is why as it concerns ability in the context of meaning and purpose, like wisdom should pair with meaning and purpose, so should ability pair with wisdom. Lastly, ability to meaning and purpose. This last point on this topic pertains to being okay living a simple life if you're a simple person, coming to terms with that and being grateful for what you have, not trying to be overly independent if you don't have the capacity to be, living for some kind of collective that is not too great or small as it concerns your capacities for understanding. Like volunteering to help the homeless, working as a volunteer fire fighter, being a librarian. Simple roles and private dignity as ability decreases, complex worlds and private roles as ability increases. The latter point here being particularly interesting of course. And yes, as it concerns 5:00, that's precisely correct in my view. To me its the true beginning to scope and perspective (to realise that the vast sum of it is the ocean) but not the end to it, it's like a foundational principle because at the end of the day you do have to still instruct utility parameters for governing functionality to our structurality, aka mind thinks to body moves. To say again: "Simple roles and private dignity as ability decreases, complex worlds and private roles as ability increases." 5:25: can you, can we, purely accept existence as merely existing? What do we need to come to terms with in order to achieve this? 5:33: But what is the dream itself in the context of oneself and the rest of the world? We don't like to advertise this question in our quest to achieve or not achieve our ambitions and it leaves many astray, hurt and disappointed. Have a look at the funniest auditions for American idol for example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNKTTSTxIEs Let's just call general consumer culture on the subject of following your dreams and passions no matter what, ahh... Tone deaf? But an aspect of that is an important piece of the puzzle in meaning and purpose of course, the adage "no matter what", but its not "no matter what" continue its more like "no matter what keep on trying and be as honest and true to understanding reality as you can in your movement forward". Can we accept reality and how can we come to terms with reality better and more will just never be advertised on the menu at the standard Mc Donald's of collectivism, you'll get a happy meal of "sit down, shut up and pretend that everything is all smiles while we feed you nonsense things to be afraid of". This is of course a bridge to the underclass and overclass ignoramus to mastermind feud that's been happening for centuries. We needed people to make burgers only, we needed people to tell those people to make those burgers only and we needed people to tell those people to tell those people to make those burgers only until eventually you find yourself up the hierarchy of monolithic meaningless purpose and meaning their of a power hierarchy where we're still trying to figure everything out and really at the end of it no one is really better or worse in the grand scheme of things outside of survival considerations, but we do love to fight over those considerations. This inescapable biological disposition impresses upon us to take those considerations seriously, which we should, but there is a larger philosophical game that we needed take too seriously as to compromise the latter either; this is another balance to consider joined with the others already spoken about. 5:55: In the discovery of self. Self knowledge, self awareness, universal self, collective self, individual self, self of my culture, self of my community, self of my family and on and on it goes. Self to me is engrossed in a necessary consciousness absorption that is merely a temporary emotional adaptation until we take action again however, it is the means to take action to meet some end, though I can see how it can be useful to simultaneously embrace some solipsistic and outer end simultaneously where the means of self returns to an end, its the same as saying where means as it concerns mean-ing shifts to purpose and purpose, aka an end, and back to means or in this case mean-ing. We require this geometrical wholeness in how we're energetically spread out and aligned between the existential features that make up our orientation to our projective world, perceived world and social world that is inescapable in our road to completion. Self to self is the road to completion, but self has to be coordinated, it has to have rotation and movement, which is why we create means and ends, rather than getting stuck on either ends or means which create destructive ends and means in the path for completion, instead moving to a path of fragmentation. So there is this natural movement towards wholeness in our purpose and orientation towards self in life in lieu of our necessity to integrate incomplete experiences that also come in the form of an energetic currency and once this currency is made whole, we're able to begin trading with the outer perceived world with a greater sense of free-will, aka freedom of the will, a will that is free to be free, and in the context of any joined collectivist purpose however small, a will that is free to create freedom. 6:10: Okay time to plug in Joseph Campbell Hero's Journey, that's just a repetitive theme in all "finding oneself" films of course. 6:35: Destroy purpose and meaning to live with meaning and purpose seems to be the message here. This is of course the allure and sanity of nihilism, however it is also to its insanity because it goes against what explains literally any action we take in life. However we have to acknowledge the inherent neuroticism that comes with meaning and purpose and how it stresses literally billions of people on planet Earth that having a sense of care freeness is inherently giving us a return on investment for life in the form of contentment without even having to exert effort. We don't like exerting effort so it works out perfectly for us, and literally I believe this is how most people should live anyhow, going back to what I said earlier: "Simple roles and private dignity as ability decreases, complex worlds and private roles as ability increases. The latter point here being particularly interesting of course." Meaning and purpose though is a necessary course of action, we have to view it like mastering an instrument rather than something that we just should automatically expect ourselves to be good at, I think that'll take the neurotic edge off for most people. Universal exclusivity to self, goals, ambitions and even loves is more or less how I'd paint to what she's referring to here. The ability to be a nihilist in the aware sense and while simultaneously being to its opposite in the action sense seems like the ideal complement here, the neuroticism shouldn't be viewed as bad however, its just a natural part of learning how to master the idea of purpose and meaning, like an obstacle that merely needs to be learned from incrementally, to be taken from the vine of fragmentation and fed back into the roots of the tree of life through integration, thought by thought, feeling by feeling, face plant by face plant, heroic act by heroic act, calmness by calmness. 6:58: https://www.verywellmind.com/erik-eriksons-stages-of-psychosocial-development-2795740 https://www.institute4learning.com/2020/01/31/the-stages-of-ego-development-according-to-jane-loevinger/ And yes, spiral dynamics. But the model is not real folks, none of these are. It's just a model. Get over it. No need to elaborate further. 8:15: Purely hogwash (in part) That's just a partial truth, encourages in-action, apathy and contentment solely out of the desire to not face neuroticism. We want that peace, that's a smart bet to make and move towards its outcomes, but its not an explanation to living life at all, its the opposite to that. Which is good, however sometimes the clever and useful contrast that opposites afford us mislead us into believing that their non-answer, "is the answer", as some would put it. The goal isn't to avoid suffering, which I think this adage is subtly saying about meaning and purpose, it is to move to a higher level of integration with all of this. It is to integrate the shadow of meaning and purpose and the shadow of a lack of meaning and purpose. Let's forgive her though, but that calm entrancing music at the end... Doesn't it make what she says and how she says it that much more convincing? Puts me in the mood to believe like a mad hatter in One Flew Over the Cuckoo's nest as they say, or should say. This is what happens when we're solely contented by the idea of existing: http:// https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNKTTSTxIEs What we're looking for is embodiment, we should never ignore the reality of existing nor... Simply existing. The latter is to our calmness, the former, to potentiality. I've actually captured this before, "not only to be (as just be content existing), but also to do, for that is how we live and know life". The former is what I would describe in part as an inner life purpose and the latter both capable of being an inner and outer life purpose depending on how you framed it, for example, in the context of the latter we have shortly put "saving the world" and to the former "saving oneself from the noise of the world (aka inner silence)", euphemistically put. All in all, on the actual subject of soul it is purposeless as far as we can tell, but it also has the power to imbue life with much purpose can't it? That's a question for you. Otherwise here's Larry saying hello and goodbye simultaneously (see 2 comments ago to understand the dinner dish here), he (sidekick to me the hero) and I are on an indefinite hiatus. Say hello to Larry (and goodbye) Me and Larry off to fight the bad guys. Our sense of meaning and purpose, indefinite and defined soul simultaneously bitches; the calm and the karma-sutra of life's cause and effect carefully and eloquently balanced with all of its sublimity.

Concerning the last two comments this might be my last journal comment and just on this site in the public area for good. For any loose ends I have here I shall reply via PM / would prefer PM.

For the record, nothing happened (argument, etc concerning directly above). Simply exercising my free will given to me by the postman and nun as written above (jokes, they’re not really my parents). On that subject however, pretty sure I’m one of the only things that has actually ever happened to and on this forum. I’ve spared no social expense so far obviously as it concerns dishing out consideration, praise and respect here where it was rightly earned. Will struggle to make these bank loan repayments, not to mention the medical bills and medical insurance premiums going up by virtue of me simply being on this site. Ultimate pompousdome crown here awarded though nor hardly negated just calmly worn to embrace the reality with a hard solidity and fluid bankroll of peace. I suppose I’ll just like... Write and stuff. Honestly though ought to just be honest that the dinner is more than just cold here, was made last night, left out on the table with no cover and the possums came through the roof and turned the majority of the baked beans here into their faeces. Why is everyone just pretending that everything here on the forum is just normal. Anyhow, God calls so gotta scoot off to do all that Good Samaritan stuff in sheep’s clothing and all that.

Oh man why am I commenting in the regular forum area, so boring. Deleting my comments there and just posting them here. Proud snob. High uncompromising standards. Dignity, and no etc. Most down to earth and comedic. On top of that, most intellectual and creative simultaneously right here. Furthermore, completely nothing to prove. Just a truism. This is also the most positive place unless my premises are dishonoured.

Every hour a new competitor, realising I can do much better. How much more can I win by? How much more can I give of myself to this universe, as this universe? Divinity you are mine now, through me you shine, through you I am divine. Let us see what this creation can do; all of this, more to do than just be. Don’t just be, how is this freedom? Be to know the silence, do to get a taste for potential.