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I've began to use this forum again after a while, which led to me wanting to ask: Do you feel that you use this forum to emotionally connect with those with similar interests? And/or, why do you use this forum?

What are you specifically interested in, when you say 'in the path'?

In a nutshell, 'Someone who is awakening', without being prescriptive through definition, is often one who has firstly, on some level, experientially realised that the essential nature of themselves is not their thoughts, but rather 'that' which is aware of their thoughts, and 'that' which is ever-present 'in' all experience (though really, it's not 'in', but rather 'as' all experience, though this may not be realised yet at this stage). 'Someone who is awakening' is then one who has the necessary determination & curiosity to experientially figure out & understand what is really & genuinely meant by 'Truth'

I know this is merely conceptual, but is the 'prior' to the big bang believed to be completely formless (and colourless?), eternal Infinite Consciousness? Or was it believed to be a form the size of 'a point smaller than the edge of a needle'?

What’s everyone’s thoughts on the need for dating someone who doesn’t have an interest in spirituality? Do you guys consider dating someone also interested in spirituality a must? Is an interest in the fact that you’re interest in it enough? Or is the willingness to grow all that is needed? Does it not matter at all as long as theirs an emotional connection, or do you think an emotional connection will be stunted because of their lack of interest in spirituality? All thoughts are welcome and appreciated

@aurum @Chew211 I never checked these replies but they're interesting, thanks.

I think you run the risk of becoming attached to the insoles. You don’t wanna not have them sometime and then feel like you’re not enough or inadequate because of that

Yeah, I think an openness to it really is a dealbreaker - it's something that I found myself being repeatedly reminded of last year, and deep down it's something I know I want That's awesome - I recently came across the Facebook profile of a girl who was my closest female friend during the last years of school and her bio read 'Who looks out from behind those eyes? Is it person, or presence?' - it shocked me in a really nice way It's great that the amount girls (and guys) around like that is just going to increase more and more during our lifetime, similar to how veganism is Have you ever considered going out on a small dose of 2CB? When I dance on it I utterly feel how I am the universe experiencing itself - every movement of my body feels as if it's an expression of the way the music makes me feel in every moment - it's so freeing and expressive and gets so much attention because of how carefree it'll make me Yeah I've found it pretty heartbreaking at times so that's nice to read Fair enough - tho I'm not sure if our definitions of spirituality are the same, are you referring to Non-duality?

@7thLetter this post is obviously very context dependant and I wouldn't get too attached to any one way. but if you're in a conversation and there's chemistry then you could just say ''Do you wanna get together sometime?'' or ''can I get your number?'' - if you do get her number then don't text for 3/4 days, then make a date with a definite day/time/place and then leave it at that. I find ''what evenings are you free?'' to work better as if they're not free on the day you suggest, then it can seem like you're too available

@Leo Gura You know I'm clearly referring to any sober state free of chemicals (like 5-MeO), I'm not saying there's just one sober state of Consciousness. My point is, how do you know the potential of a sober state when you still have egoic attachments? I'm obviously not 'Enlightened' and also still have lots of egoic attachments, but throughout history, there is a consistent and recurring theme amongst spiritual practitioners that once the ego is 'destroyed' and (not just conceptually) understood to be illusory, then as a result, one's baseline state of consciousness no longer derives from the ego and instead becomes a state of Being. This is obviously the point to which the Buddha was referring to as simply 'the end of suffering'. So despite your many 5-MeO (etc) Awakenings, if you haven't reached Enlightenment / detached from the ego to the point where your natural state of Consciousness is completely unidentified with a separate self and instead resides in a state of Being, then how do you know the potential of any sober state of Consciousness? To say you know would be to say you've reached Enlightenment, which I know you've already stated that you haven't yet. Also, despite how ridiculously insane these 5-MeO states obviously are, if you still have egoic attachments then they're still being reflected upon by the ego once the Awakening comes to an end. This isn't to deny these realizations but rather to highlight that these same degrees of 5-MeO experiences would be reflected upon differently by an Enlightened person experiencing them, which in turn could deepen their sober state of Being further. I'd argue that the baseline state of Consciousness of an Enlightened person who, after their Enlightenment, went on to take 5-MeO 100+ times, would be more revealing of the potential of the 'sober state'. And that's without considering the potential of the 'sober state' of an Enlightened person with abnormal genetics whilst practising meditation/yoga/self-enquiry after 100+ 5-MeO Awakenings.

Have you not considered that you don't know the potential of the sober state since you haven't dissolved your ego to the point where your natural state is Being (aka 'Enlightenment')?

I read this post and then found this on youtube suggested straight after https://youtu.be/PDxKxnVZtgo

@Federico del pueblo the 'flying spaghetti monster' exists as a thought 'new york city' exists as a thought

Seems like you’ve developed an attachment to certainty I think if you make peace with the fact that you will always be told things that you can’t verify through direct experience, and that these things can often still be true, then you’ll learn to be okay with it

@Emotionalmosquito I totally agree that the bigger the city the better, I just think that those in smaller populated places shouldn't be deterred from it as it'll still be of benefit regardless. New girls come in and out of places all the time, plus one could find someone they really resonate with soon into it without needing a huge number, so I think it's worth it just because of that possibility.

I've not seen Leo's latest vid yet but cold-approach can be done literally anywhere with other people, the point of it is just for one to become indifferent to rejection so that 'the approach' eventually becomes submerged with everyday interactions, and so isn't seen as something which is planned out and executed but rather done spontaneously at the moment when the desire arises, without the mind creating fearful thoughts to intervene I don't think looking at cold-approach as being mutually exclusive with a ridiculously large amount of women in an area is appropriate at all, because it presupposes that the notion of doing it at all is to attain a statistically high amount of women to sleep with I'd argue that cold-approach is effective because it gets guys to experience their fear of rejection through the experience of rejection, which eventually helps them to become indifferent to that fear, which then allows them to not be held back by said fear in everyday life when interacting with women for this you don't need a ridiculous amount of girls in an area because the act of being selective with the girls is missing the point of doing it in the first place - yeah it'd be nice to have 100,000 girls in your area but really you could become amazing at doing cold-approach just by approaching girls everyday for a month straight, as like I said the point is just in the doing of it eventually, you can get to the point where all interactions are naturally coming from a playful place of authenticity once the fear of rejection is eradicated, at which point you'll naturally treat all girls from this playful place - the one's who like you back will make that known, and then it'll just be on you to choose whether you want to engage romantically or not

@Moksha that's a really helpful reply, thanks! so in this understanding, does this 'Ultimate reality', aka Infinite Consciousness, precede and create the 'primeval atom'. Not sure if precede is the right word if time didn't exist yet, but I'm coming from the position of the 'primeval atom' being the result of an Infinite Intelligence. And from this understanding, if Infinite Consciousness is eternal, did it exist formlessly and eternally (for lack of a better word) prior to this primeval atom?

Okay, so this is my conceptual understanding, you can tell me where you agree/disagree if you like: Infinite, Formless Consciousness is all that exists as one singularity. It happens prior to space because it has no form, and it happens prior to time because it has no beginning and end/is eternal. I'm good with this, tho maybe it's not a perfect analogy/I'm missing something. But when I say 'the Big Bang', I'm pointing to the beginning of the formless taking form, or the infinite limiting itself by becoming finite. This to me is the beginning of the relative realm, which includes space and time. So whilst from the Absolute perspective space and time is one singularity, I'm talking in dualistic notions because I'm pointing towards the period that began when Infinite Consciousness became finite, aka the big bang, which includes space and time and therefore, relatively speaking, happened 13.7 billion years ago, albeit not from the Absolute perspective. so it's from this perspective that I'm asking the above question.

I'm asking conceptually!, hence: also, you have to recognise the difference between imagining the past in the now, and what that imagination is pointing to in the relative realm. Seems like you're trying to flex a non-dual, Absolute perspective when it clearly isn't warranted or helpful, which in essence is you just doing it to satisfy your own spiritual ego. it just makes this forum tiresome because it's so unnecessary

1. With that same logic yesterday never happened. I'm not looking for riddles or wordplay 2. That wasn't my question

Think of the things you know how to do well, like making coffee you're confident doing it because you know how to do it because you have experience doing it

Rupert Spira - The Nature of Consciousness: Essays on the Unity of Mind and Matter

and I think the expectation/hope is what causes suffering, as it can cause one to feel lack or incomplete in themselves when one doesn't get what they expect/hoped for this interpretation (time-stamped) of the Prodigal son is insightful regarding suffering/hurt and consciousness/love

I'd say one's ego suffers and experiences 'hurt' when it wants reality to be different from what it is (I'm not referring to reality existentially but rather one's life circumstances)

@Leo Gura I think a podcast would work better wherein you chronologically tell your journey of understanding Truth, as it would build up naturally at a linear pace allowing the unfamiliar viewer to keep up, even if you'd have to do more than 1 episodes i'm sure it'll still be enjoyable tho