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@Inliytened1 We just going to need to agree to disagree. Each to his own. Peace brother

The point is there's no single official definition of enlightenment Jim Newman doesn't even use that word

Nice that you don't want to answer that. It's not really possible to put in words what This is. Who is the Enlightened one It might do you some good to actually sit through a whole Jim Newman video

What would you say is Actual ? And what is your definition of enlightenment.

What would you say is Actual ?

Thank you

I appreciate your concern, but I can't invalidate my direct experience. This is not depersonalization or escape or anything like that. I feel more vibrant than ever. Mellowmarsh was right, it's not possible to debate this stuff. Each to his own. I know neo advaita or whatever it's called gets a bad rap, and I'm sure there are some people to blame for that. But the kind of radical nonduality that Jim Newman, Tony Parsons and others impart, is definitely the real deal.

I'm sorry, but this is rediculous. I remember Joe Rogan talking about Tony Robins once, saying: "But what has he really done ?" My God man, he's helped to change the lives of thousands of people for the better. You don't need to create Amazon to be impactful. You have no idea what impactful human beings Adyashanti, Leo etc are Simultaneously you also don't have any idea how impactful you are as a human being, if you're only measuring it by what you can see.

Could "it" just be Life itself.

"When you get out of the driver's seat, you find that life can drive itself, that actually life has always been driving itself. When you get out of the driver's seat, it can drive itself so much easier—it can flow in ways you never imagined. Life becomes almost magical. The illusion of the “me” is no longer in the way. Life begins to flow, and you never know where it will take you." Adyashanti So I'm guessing Adyashanti is also just in a state ? What people are calling God realization seems to be more of a peak mystical state, it doesn't last, not that I'm knocking it. What Jim, Mellowmarsh and Adyashanti are talking about is not a temporary state.

If there are a whole bunch of processes happening in the background over which you have no conscious control, and neither can you say that you are consciously deciding for the mind, can you see that perhaps the sense of the 'controller' might be an illusion, made up of a confluence of the senses, thoughts, emotions etc

Wow

Aren't those two, acceptance and resistance, more like energetic contraction or expansion/relaxation in the body, rather than thoughts per say

You have a wonderful way of erasing questions from the mind, thanks

@Mellowmarsh I saw your 'name' in the Solipsism thread - Mogofeternalstench I think I'm going to stick with Mellowmarsh, easier to pronounce

Yeah, maybe you right, maybe it's just like deep sleep, although I sense it's a deeper kind of reset.

But can you really say you consciously decided to have the thought ?

Yeah I wonder if there's something strange going on with the brain during cessations

Thank you James

Did you decide to have this thought ? Or did it just happen without any gap

yeah, I guess I was thinking of something unrelated, those states they call cessations, I wonder how that works

Wow, thanks

Similarly, if you look closely, are thoughts really yours, or are they actually just happening.

I guess I was going into science fiction mode and thinking, would it ever be possible for the eternal unfolding to stop ?

Similarly, if you stop identifying with thoughts as yours, it doesn't mean that thoughts stop happening all together.