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Yeah, I guess there's no right way of dealing with suicidal people.

The point is Adyashanti wouldn't get depressed if he stopped teaching tomoro. He's not dependent on some sense of purpose.

Of course behavior goes through a refinement/purification process. I'm not saying you become perfect, but there's definitely a change. Certain things don't piss you off as much as they once did. Consequently you're able to be kinder to people etc. Things become lighter. If there's no change, how will Love express itself through you in ever expanding ways ?

As far as Nahm goes: There's such a thing as meeting people where they are at. He didn't seem to have any respect for that principle.

I wouldn't say it doesn't change. There's definitely some refinement/purification which seems to happen naturally.

Yeah, he just calls it This, or What's happening. He'll even say there is no past, present or future, there's just This. (I just think he's really good at pointing out the futility of seeking, and this allows for a natural unravelling of that seeking energy.)

Man I can't explain it, every time I listen, something unravels without any effort on my part.

His mom was a judge in Montana in the 60's When he came back from India he found his mom having tea with some high society types in the garden. She introduced Jim to her friends by saying: "This is my son, he went to India to find himself"

Which also corresponds with Leo's teaching about solipsism. (ps I don't really know neo advaita, some of them sound a bit silly, right now I'm resonating with Jim Newman, that's about it.)

I remember James Swartz, a Vedanta teacher, saying that after his awakening, he went to live in a remote cabin, every day he would go fishing, and he was happy as a lark. Did this for a few years apparently. But yeah I'm not saying we should deny ourselves human connection. I do think the whole purpose thing is transcended eventually. Which is why you'll here teachers like Adyashanti say, there's just no agenda with him.

It wouldn't be ideal for sure, physical discomfort would still happen. But there wouldn't be additional layers of story (poor me etc).

I don't think common sense dissolves, just psychological suffering.

@Jirh, @Breakingthewall Yeah, ego is perhaps the wrong word. I think it's that seeking energy, feeling incomplete/separate etc, is what dissolved for Nisargadatta, Jim Newman etc.

Many years ago, there was girl in one of my classes at university, who was in a terrible car crash. Afterwards her face was distorted, she couldn't speak, saliva freely rolled down from the corners of her mouth. At first everyone thought she was permanently mentally handicapped, like a vegetable. Meanwhile her mental faculties were actually still fine. She had a kind of awakening like that. Wrote a book assisted by one of those type of machines that Hawkins used.

I think there's this perception that when there's a permanent cessation of the seeker/separation, that you'll just be a blob laying in a corner of the room. But I don't see any reason why spirit and intelligence can't still do its thing, there's just no personal ownership of it all, ie no psychological suffering. Nature seems to be doing just fine without ego etc.

@Carl-Richard your thoughts ?

Carl's gonna ask you to go through 20K of Nahm's posts to find that specific one. It's just uncanny how many people remember him giving inappropriate advice. But you won't change Carl's mind on the topic of Nahm, it's useless, I've tried.

Fair enough. I still think some discernment goes a long way. Maybe spamming the nondual stuff has some value too, who knows.

Most people here propably have a secular background, so connection with Christ consciousness etc will be rare. The church made Jesus an easy target lol.

What would be an example of nondual advice that's helpful, when someone is asking for practical life advice ?

Good observation. The Flowerfaery/New Age types are rare here🙂

I just need to say one final thing here to clear up the apparent misunderstanding. Clearly you're acknowledging that he did at times give nondual advice when people were looking for practical life advice. The main point is simply this: It's not helpful, ie bad timing. And this shows some lack of wisdom, that's all. But you'll never acknowledge that in a million years

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@Carl-Richard I really don't care about it that much to sift through 20k posts. Ulax, Inligtened1 had the same impression as me, and I'm sure there are others. I'm done with this, you do you.

I remember enjoying the original Silent Hill movie, quite a work of art. But I'm curious, what was deep about SAW ? I just can't get myself to watch something like that.