Wilhelm44

Hey, why didn't you respond to my last comment in the Jim Newman thread, Im not a nondual robot

Not sure what exactly you referring to. I never claimed Leo didn't make any mistakes. The topic right now is that perhaps Nahm was not quite as wise as some people thought.

Carl, your a smart guy, but you have a hard time admitting when your wrong. All I have been doing here is trying to get you to acknowledge that Ulax made a good point earlier, which you cleverly tried to intellectually analyze your way out of. "A guy could've been homeless, on food stamps and asking about how to find a job, and Nahm would've told him it was just a thought. Leo demoting him was very reasonable." Yes, it can be dangerous to give nondual advice, especially when someone needs to take action to make practical changes in their life. Leo had good reason to let him go.

Giving nondual advice when someone is suffering and actually needs some practical common sense life solutions, is not just annoying, it can be dangerous, and it showed lack of wisdom on Nahm's part, no matter how good his intentions.

You don't think the actual context (nonduality vs God realization) of most of the original disagreements, was slightly overlooked here ? Seems like the elephant in the room to me.

I'm not saying Leo didn't make any mistakes in the way that he handled disagreements. What I'm saying is that most of the focus here has been placed on just that, ie how disagreements were handled. From what I can tell there wasn't that much focus on the actual context of the disagreements. Which pretty much seems to be: nonduality vs God realization (dating all the way back to the days of Nahm) As a personal example: Recently I really got into radical nonduality, especially the work of Jim Newman. For me it really feels like a big opening of Grace is happening that will take me all the way. Leo told me in no uncertain terms: "It's just not the Full Monty." Now, it might take me all the way, it might not. I'm still open to learning, and I still do learn from Leo. Am I now going to fight Leo on this specific topic. What would be the point ? Just follow ur own resonance at the time. It's kinda simple really. (So much unnecessary drama)

So you saying you and Carl Richard didn't have the same level of integrity as Zurew, ie to sacrifice membership here. I think Elliott might be right, perhaps there was some kind of ego battle he had with Leo. From listening to @Carl-Richard, it sounds like the root of a lot of the disagreements, dating back to the days of Nahm, was mostly about nonduality vs God realization. And even just going through the spirituality section now, you can kind of still spot the two camps. My sense is that some of the God realization guys tend to underestimate radical nonduality. But I'll be the first to admit that there's always more to explore. (Perhaps Nahm and others still had something to learn from Leo, but hey he seemed convinced otherwise, so God bless him where ever he may be. His practical life advice though just seemed way off at times. Not sure if him or his followers had integrated as much as they thought at the time.)

Can you at least acknowledge that he gave bad practical life advice. Also, if you're into radical nonduality, I would converse more with Mellowmarsh, she proper switched on.

Totally agree

LOL

Not sure I understand the connection between your question and what I said there ?

So it's like nonduality vs God realization What happened with Nahm's forum, is it still alive ?

How do you know this ?

Microdosing Golden teacher mushrooms got me off weed. Very healing for the brain.

How come you didn't just address their concerns directly at the time ? 1) Claiming to be the most conscious being on the planet 2) Making definitive claims about the awakening of others. (without saying that you could be wrong) (There was a point nr 3, but I don't remember the details, Found it: I'm quoting Zurew here: 3) If you add to that that he wont impose a false dichotomy on people who disagree with him on things he cares about (meaning giving room for people to disagree with him on things without them having to be self-deceived or dumb or not understanding etc) ,then that would significantly lower down things for me and that would be sufficient for me.

I'm sorry to see Zurew go, but was he ever going to be able to let this go ? Or was he just going to throw mud on the classroom walls for all eternity. Making claims about having an alien intelligence awakening doesn't mean it's a cult. (Where are these victims who blindly followed Leo on that) As I said earlier, Leo never claimed to be the perfect embodyment of all his teachings. Yet this justice panel seemed to want to hold him to some standard of perfection.

Come on, lets be honest, deep down you guys know you haven't outgrown Leo yet, and there is still plenty to learn here. Leo never claimed to be the perfect embodyment of all his teachings.

"Leo doesn't know what enlightenment is. He's had crazy glimpses. But the weird thing is is how brilliant he is with bringing the material to you. He doesn't have the genetics for awakening though." Yet somehow you have found a way lol

Yeah, wearing gold shouldnt be a problem. Good feng shui, me thinks.

Chrysiasis: Long-term use can cause a permanent, irreversible bluish-gray skin discoloration on areas exposed to sunlight, as well as gold rings around the corneas. One of the risks of gold therapy: You could potentially turn into one of those people from the avatar movies.

Yeah, i see there's a lot of negative potential side effects.

Is it monoatomic gold though ? Otherwise it's not the Philosopher's Stone.

Monatomic gold, or ORMUS, is a hypothetical white powder allegedly composed of isolated, single gold atoms. Proponents claim it acts as a "superconductor" that enhances brain function, DNA repair, and spiritual awareness. However, there is no scientific evidence that a stable, isolated single-atom gold powder exists or provides these benefits. Google says the stuff i took was just hypothetical, but what does google know.

Dude was a chemical engineer, made it for us in his lab. I only had it once tho

Hey, Im still here🙂