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After watching Leo's advanced explanation of god realisation teaching, he ends the video, nearly in tears, revealing that his work on actualized.org is essentially, and I quote, to help me realize that I created him and to eventually reach a point where " will realise [his] love for [me] and [he] will realise [my] love for [him] and then together we will realise that we are identical and we will merge into this infinite singularity of love together as one--FOREVER". I kind of understand the merging thing as an experiential state of consciousness, but forever? Like, that will be it? Nothing else after that? It is around 2:14:30 on the following video for reference:

Yes but this is only a temporary experience, in a reality comprised solely of eternal change.

I don’t think that is what he was trying to say actually. I think he meant it quite literally.

While I have been exploring "truth" through experience, there is one area that I really feel is quite unclear for me. In another thread someone posted this video where he attempts to explain "Oneness". (Not necessary to watch it). While I certainly fully grasp the idea of Oneness, Nonduality and/or Holism, how do you explain Solipsism (or lack thereof) as a truth? Example: I get it. There is no tree without the sun, the rain etc and from my perspective, I am creating separations between things. I also understand oneness from the perspective that fields of consciousness must in someway or another belong to some grand scheme of "everything"/Brahman. What I don't get is, how WE are all one, if we, as unique experiential fields are "infinitely" separate from one another, from an experiential point of view? I understand that there is no separation between different people, as physical objects, but at the end of the day, I still experience a "me" and I trust that other people are also experiencing a "me". I feel like Leo tends to sidestep this discussion and often makes comments like "for all I know, you are just my mind playing tricks on me" bla bla. and I have seen other people (mods) saying things like "who said other people are conscious"? What are your thoughts on this? How have you guys made conclusions on this? I hope for something more elaborate than "I can't explain it in words". EDIT: Sorry for this obnoxious comment but please do not reply to this thread if your reply will simply be a one-liners like "all is one" "because it is" etc. "isn't it so?". Please take a moment to elaborate your thought. I understand that not all things can be explained through words, but please at least try.

It isn't necessarily that I take it seriously, it is that people like Leo preach it, so I am curious of the logic behind it. I understand that at the end of the day, reaching enlightenment is completely dismantling the idea of a self to the point where you become "empty" or "nothing" and that there is "no self" but I am curious what this implies for other fields of experience. If they are infinitely seperate, or somehow linked?

I follow you, but who is to say that our fields of experience aren't lets say infinitely separate timelines that never merge but simply cross one another (in different lives and contexts etc)?

I understand the nature of consciousness is the same, but why do we have different fields of experience?

Thank you for not reading my post

I actually do appreciate one forum post I saw with Leo saying something along the lines of “human language does a shit job at portraying truth” which resonated with me haha.

Could you clarify what Kundalini awakening is? Because Google isn't really clear. Is it just generally when you start to so called "wake up", have a heightened sense of awareness, realise that life is a cosmic dream with a certain order to it, and having somewhat spiritual understanding to things? Or is it even more absurd than that?

Give the people what they want! A debate between Leo and Frank. Or just a friendly webinar discussion. Or maybe you guys can meet up at a gym, work out, and discuss enlightenment (filmed). Just throwing some ideas out there.

It does feel a lot like Death is presented in this forum in the same way that it is presented in the Netflix special "Black Mirror: Bandersnatch" where the drug induced character deliberates a reality with a multitude of timelines

So, I am sure Leo has changed his mind a lot throughout the years but I am a bit confused on what his thoughts are on what happens when we die. In his video on death he basically says we will be rejoined with the cosmic infinite cloud of love and ecstasy once the ego and illusion of self disappears. In past posts I have also seen him say things along the lines that at at one point or another we will live life through the Hitler timeline/perspective, and also we will be the cow that is sent to the slaughterhouse etc but inevitably return to the enlightened state through enlightenment or death. I wonder how this works from an experiential point of view? I ask as I currently understand myself to be a conscious human on earth, and I experience Leo and everyone else as distinct conscious beings as well. According to Leo's teachings, when I die I will dissolve into infinite love and then what? After like lets say a million or so years I will get bored and hit the "reset" button and wake up as a suffering cow for a couple years? How is any of this stuff even verifiable? I question this as many self proclaimed enlightened people have said that "death is the end" for example, or even Frank Yang who has said that he has NO idea what happens when you die, because he is not there to experience it. How the hell does Leo know what happens when we die? Did a cosmic being tell him that while on a psychadelic trip?

Just a bit of digging around, this is as per his instagram account (with all due respect, just given it is public on his actualized page).

Your channel is growing and your videos are literally hours long each, so any point you stress can very easily be lost within your other hundreds of daily posts and hours of video. I remember when I was introduced to your work, I was curious on your views of suicide, and it took me some "digging" to find it.

Indeed I have seen this video which touches upon other ideas about hallucinations, feelings, changes in behaviour etc, but it is not explicit enough to be linked as a direct disclaimer that we all know is a reality, that when some people are told that death is not real, they may feel the temptation to test death out on impulse.

Perhaps Leo should make a video on "Suicide" to clarify that while death may simply be an illusion, Suicide is a step backwards in the spiritual journey?

This is sad news indeed, sorry to hear and also remember that you have many friends on this forum! Spiritual work is a dangerous game, but so is life, there are no guarantees for anything. Many people who begin their journey are dealing with depression, depersonalisation disorders etc... That being said, talk of death/consciousness and the spiritual journey is a very delicate subject, because although it is the understanding of many that death is only an illusion, never personally experienced, I would promote compassion to all in their journey to overcome suffering. While you may be eager to "see what happens after you die", remember that all actions carry with them consequences, "cosmic karma" lets call it. Lets say you prove death illusory through a suicide, remember that the action still carries with it cosmic consequences as you ultimately put your direct experience above that of others who will suffer in your wake. I do not wish to blame anyone. I wish peace to Soonhei's soul and hope that he does not suffer, and I wish peace as well to those he has left behind. Time heals all wounds as we work for a better world.

Sorry to hear. Spiritual work is a tricky game. I wish peace upon his soul.

That is an interesting claim by Frank that it is just as common to realise No-self as it is to realise god. I interpret this as the difference between Buddha and Jesus. Buddha and Buddhism is basically "go live on a mountain in solidarity and realise that you are nothing and there is no self" where Jesus is "realise all is god and infinite love and the kingdom of God is everywhere". I am referring to the OG Jesus a.k.a. Gospel of Thomas Jesus.

Agree, plenty of "outdated" teachings haha

Enlightenment is cool and everything but now it’s time for you to help Leo improve his meatsuit.

potential to play any of the other characters, or inevitable that you will play any of the other characters?

Is this the real frank? Sent you a message on insta to confirm

Could you perhaps try to explain why you know better than other self proclaimed enlightened beings? Frank Yang says that he doesn't know what happens when we die, but you do? Same with people like Michael Taft / Daniel Ingram? They say death is the end.