Loba
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Open eyes Keep an open mind Out of nothing the stars align What is least expected Sometimes all you need Nothing lasts forever When every moment's A choice you're making Just let it guide you Down whatever road you're chasing Now who would believe That we're even in the same league So much distance in between But we’re running towards the same dream Whеn every moment's A choicе you're making Just let it guide you Down whatever road you're chasing
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wip https://www.sciencenewsforstudents.org/article/scientists-say-petrichor https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_magic https://cherylebannon.com/what-is-intuitive-art/
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Loba replied to Ecocotton's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Ask for forgiveness and for guidance. Give Love and thanks. Have Faith. -
I got my first vaccination a few days ago, no noticeable side effects at all. Sorry for waiting on it, I was worried about possible side effects (have an autoimmune disease) but decided to get it anyways. I get the second one in a few weeks.
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Loba replied to johnlocke18's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
You can't know for sure why he did what he did, it is disrespectful to assume you know why he killed himself and then tout that around here like his ghost's personal white knight. -
Started in 2017 - I love bats - I like how with their noses, ears and wings they offer more variation for strange shapes to come together. ??❤️? My poor batties will forever be synonymous with covid. But actually, they are apparently an important marker for ecological health and scientists use them to determine if an ecosystem is "sick" or not. They have many different specialties, too, some of them very unique. Me realizing just how crazy I am. This is going to take some serious work to untangle. I think, however, after this picture, I am going to draw a few cats for a while. I have some ideas. This song feels like asmr. I feel like I'm tripping all the time. How do things so obviously not real become so strangely real? Once the delusion is seen through it's just like, "Yeah okay that wasn't real." But then it pops back up again, like... signs that seem to have some sort of direction but also don't, but I still end up with spiritual wisdom somehow. As though my foolishness has forced me to go deep with this stuff, no pun intended. It feels like a curse, like I line 'em up and it's so wrong but also so so right. I just don't get it... I'm not special, I'm normal I'm just crazy and when you're crazy the rules of reality change. And then it's real. But in all the wrong ways - but the fact that you can see anything at all, that some pattern of truth breaks free, this means something important. I was in a hostage situation at the ER, but I also have had a lot of delusions and seeing through them requires noticing the things I don't pay attention to, or can't, and that karma is what seems alive most of all.
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Same here. It felt more like a preschool for adults in a way. Not inhumane, but the system still has a ways to go imo. I feel the same way when I take medication versus when I don't.
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Title: "Leave' em a vague explanation."
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Loba replied to iboughtleosbooklist's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
I take it to mean a unified field of oneness, idk how it would work any other way. -
Dear victim of abuse, Please don't end your life. I have dealt with rape as well and it takes time to overcome. I am so sorry you are going through this. You are not alone. There are many wonderful things in the world. Today I whistled to a robin in the backyard and he came down to investigate. I gave him a blueberry as a treat and he took it. I saw a small rabbit as well. They may be gone tomorrow from something but today they appreciate life. The berries, the fresh grass, the fresh air... There are really amazing mysteries in life... ones that you should let your soul take the time to show you before making a choice like this. They are observational.
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What does it mean when we are on one side and then we cross over to another and then perhaps cross back over again. The term comes from separating straw and detritus from the barnyard and the house. A boundary. Another threshold state is when you have just woken up - you are not quite awake and not quite asleep - can you carry the dream content across the threshold, sometimes this is difficult - the dream world dissolves away, out of your grasp. What do we have to cultivate in order to carry from the inside to the outside - what strengths and abilities do we need to have? There are many myths where a character has to go down into the underworld. You can't look back once the threshold door opens. We can't bring it back just as it was from the underworld, there is some translation and a shift that happens as we cross into waking life and visa versa. Some myths about faeries involve falling asleep on the forest floor and thinking you've been given a gift of money or something like that only to find dirt in your pockets, lol! Lovely sounding album. It makes me so happy to write up something detailed and get an accurate suggestion. We have to sacrifice ego and consciousness in a self annihilation to take a journey into sacred space, the deep unconscious. Faerie realms. The myth of Inanna had a serious of thresholds to reach her sister, each time she would have to lose an accoutrement, so when she passed through she surrendered naked. But you don't have to surrender everything. Jung's cultivation of active imagination: to be asleep and awake at the same time. To live in the threshold, if you were to go too fully into your unconsciousness you would lose your objectivity within the subconscious dreamstate and lose it's potency. To live in the liminal space, which Jung also called the transcended function, this place where the conscious an unconscious mind are in dialogue, which happens in the threshold. The place may be the ego becomes more of a supplicant, doesn't disappear but acknowledges relationship with something larger. The removal of the clothing of Inanna, she doesn't become unconscious, she does have to dispossess herself of something and perhaps even the defenses to be naked in the myth so that all the tiny nuances of change in the cave can be registered by the wholeness of her psyche. You have to maintain some consciousness at the same time that you are willing to sacrifice this consciousness and go in consciously to the "faerie realm", don't make noise, don't clatter about, hide behind some rocks or some shit, lol, observe carefully. Stay focused on your task of going to the Goddess of the Underworld with your request, and remember to be mindful and respectful and shed a lot of our usual states of mind and defenses and stay conscious. Inanna went through seven gates, and in each gate she had to let go of an item of clothing. It is the experience of crossing over that demands of us this relinquishing. A sacrifice of all these parts of who we think we are that have to be given up so that we go in naked or undefended. Liminality: a movement from one attitude or orientation to another and there is this concept of liminality that's been brought into Jungian thought, it was originally a concept that was developed in anthropology - the rights of passage - comes from Latin for threshold. It means the in-between space of initiation rights. Preliminal state - in the normal world - then you are in a threshold experience where you are neither what you were before but you're not the new thing, either and that is the liminal space. Then you cross over into the world of the initiated and then you're once again in a fixed form, but in this liminal space thing are a little bit fluid. One thing can become another and nothing is pinned down and is similar to when Winnicott's transitional space. My song of crossing. A robin has been hanging out with me, he knows I will give him blueberries. I can whistle and he listens and responds. We know this is the space of the symbolic where we can access symbolic attitude, where we can understand that things are not literal, that they move and flow into one another - that they can be both one thing and another at the same time. Analysis is another threshold experience. The symbol itself is the threshold because the symbol is the visible representation behind which exists a larger, mysterious reality - but some part of that unseen reality passes through the symbol and the ego is able to have some relationship to it or to be influenced by at least some derivative of it, so every symbol in a sense is that little strip of wood around the door that allows passage, but maintains it's structure so that the inside and the outside are differentiated. Wardrobe in the Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe. Looks like an ordinary wardrobe with fur coats and mothballs, but it is a space where one thing becomes another completely and it allows passage into a very different way of being. At some other level it is unknown and remains in that other world where it both beckons us and yet refuses to be just turned into something concrete like a stoplight. The difference between the willing threshold and unwilling threshold - do you go willingly or get dragged across? Puberty is an unwilling threshold at this primordial instincts drag us through this radicle change and on the other side biologically we were considered reproductively viable adults. Curiosity draws us through a transition for something that we hope for, that we submit to an extended threshold experience feeling that we will come through by choice into some other world or condition. Some things happen to us that create a change, a change in state, that this is a threshold that you have to cross, whether it is because mother nature has so degreed, and how in so many cultures some of these changes are celebrated and heralded or marked in some way by initiation rights or other kinds of ritual and ceremony of the passage into adulthood, and something like death, which is the final threshold that for most of us, we are unwilling. Patients in an active dying process, in hospice work there is a differentiation between the progressive illness and then the body is actively shutting down and death is imminent and then that moment after when the body, the brain has stopped - it a marked threshold, the active dying process that is very powerful. It is powerful to be in the presence of, beautiful, horrifying, unstoppable, dark and terrible that cannot be avoided. The opposite of it is birth. Another incredible threshold. There is a sense of something crossing over from another realm. There is a passage but there is also that state change where all of a sudden it's different. "The arrival." "The other side." Compared to the process and tipping point of now it is different. The work of personal growth and life is climbing a mountain, you keep taking step after step for all these years, and then perhaps through a process like analysis and a kind of willingness and trudging onward and work, you get to the top. And then one more step puts you on the other side to seeing things differently, having a different sense of self. A subtle but substantial change as well as the marked change of crossing over either into life through birth or crossing from life into death, but that we know something has shifted definitively and we may be having to take lots of steps down the other side of the mountain - it is a different landscape on the other side. Something irrevocable has happened. Finding the language to claim the thing that we have entered into is also part of an analytic process or process of self knowledge. "I have become different in some fashion and I have to hunt around for a way to describe that to my self so that I can have a conscious relationship to it." Broken thresholds: all of us, we live in homes and if you open the front door to your home, there's sometimes a metal plate or wooden plate at the bottom and some kind of sealing process around the door so when the door is closed it is air tight, or weather tight. So the threshold is meant to be robust so there is a clean demarcation. But if it is not effective, water will seep in and damage the floor of the winter weather will blow in and make the heating system inefficient. Example: psychosis, material from the unconscious begins to invade, crawl sin under the threshold which is not well sealed and people begin to have strange moods and feelings of terror and strange thoughts which are not related to reality that they're in. That can be a broken threshold. In a more benign way, Freud's list of defenses are broken thresholds. For instance that I am sitting over here and that there is a reality that's in the room and in order to cross the threshold and embrace reality I am caught in the broken threshold by denying what is actually going on and refusing to make the transition into admitting that something is true to myself. They can lock us in the threshold, when we are locked in a defense against reality, in a middle place where we can't make movement or repetition compulsion is a kind of broken threshold one cannot quite find the other side of. Addiction is a broken threshold.. "I cannot find a way to move and I am constantly cycling in a middle space." Being in the in between place can be fertile when talking about a before as liminality and have it enriched by a symbolic attitude and is something that we seek out when going into analysis or active imagination. We can also get stuck there in an unhealthy way. The distinction is that the liminal space when it works for us is a space of preparation for some kind of threshold experience, like the caterpillar in preparation when it starts to change to become a butterfly. Sci Fi can be profound and reference all kinds of archetypal things. Dead space - Anne McCaffery's books - dragons could go in between different worlds and in between them was nothingness - there was simply nothing and they were cold and some of the trips were short, but in one book there was a very long one. There might be no crossing of the threshold. Being stuck in a cycle where there are endless possibilities can seem lovely but is in fact, deadening. There is the sacrifice that is required of leaving the old state, leaving childhood for adulthood, leaving home, leaving an addiction, a state of denial. All kinds of things which require giving something up in order to cross the threshold. We don't always know what we are going to find on the other side of the threshold, there are not always guarantees that you are going to be happy. One of the qualities of threshold experience is they can be intense and euphoric. The liminal part of the right, there is an altered state of consciousness that is cultivated. It can happen in little ways in analysis or active imagination. It is a special state where normal rules don't apply and that can be heavy and when we use substances that's what we are cultivating in a superficial way, but doesn't lead to a location on the other side of the door. One steps into the threshold and just keeps spinning in the space, which of course then becomes corrosive. Thresholds are by nature have a dissolving process, and then re-coagulating in a different attitude or even just casually. Lying is a broken threshold, a way in which one is standing in a middle place, spinning ideas and words that deprive somebody of landing into a concrete position and traps both people in a liminal space in an unhealthy way. The caterpillar has to go into a solution so that it can take a position as a butterfly, refusing to leave the middle place of dissolving then becomes toxic. Becomes it's own process that's destructive. A lot of the practices of religion over eons are designed to make sure that people don't stay stuck in these liminal spaces. That you will have a crossing over the threshold from childhood to adulthood, to some sort of initiatory right. Roman Cathodic: confirmation, healing, service, matrimony, etc. - so that the liminal space is closed down in an appropriate way and threshold is crossed from an unmarried to married state for example. Stalks of wheat, grains are embedded in the grasses are carried into the threshing room, over the threshold and they are laid down and walked upon or acted upon in some fashion to break away the chaff and to reveal what is valuable and then the grains are then removed, brought out of the threshold and are then subject to some other process, but they are considered what is valuable. So to be threshed on the other side of the portal and to emerge differently, is inherent in the idea of the threshold. Many poets use the idea/metaphor of the threshing floor. It's a transition into a higher state, a state of becoming which may require some amount of aggression or violence but is in the service of individuation, of a assimilating something from the other side into awareness and into experiential awareness that changes us, makes us different and makes us more. Guardians of the gate: Some of these mythical thresholds have watchmen, gates of Hell had a three headed dog, there are gatekeepers and doormen that sometimes appear as innocuous figures but turn out to have secret powers. There are gargoyles, cathedrals. Janus is the God of doorways/gateways and passages and beginnings and endings. In the ancient and modern world, what is outside can contain what is dangerous, whether it is dangerous weather or whether it is dangerous creatures or people, and that to let someone into our hearts and lives and psyche - it is reasonable for them to be evaluated or to demonstrate something that gives us a sense that it will be beneficial to us or welcome for them to pass through - so the threshold becomes a place of testing and evaluating, perhaps even trial in an initiatic way. Are you ready to enter the sacred space or the new state, and to encounter in yourself you have the strength to have this encounter and if you don't know the magic word or the formula then clearly you are not ready or worthy. The desire to move into the other space is strong enough one then returns to the outer world and submits willfully to some form of educative or refining process, and the returns to see if they can answer the riddles or any number of things to achieve what is desired. But some things cannot be stolen, some things can only be gained through attainting a certain level, and sometimes those who seek to breach the threshold without having attainted it find that what is discovered is undecipherable because the preparation to be fit allows one to understand what is in the inner room. A lot of rituals focus on preparation for the crossing of the threshold so that you can receive what is on the other side in order to be present. The preparation is to ensure the would be crosser over, or initiate has sufficient ego strength and that has a direct parallel with therapy and psychanalysis that before you engage the other side, the unconscious, especially the deep unconscious you have to have enough ego strength to engage it and that is shown by your ability to prepare, to give Cerberus who guards the gate of Hell, you throw him three loaves of bread and that keeps him busy eating so you can cross through. All these things that show "Yes, I am prepared, I am grounded. I have done my homework." With increasing interest in psychedelics, a lot of people are just taking them, but in traditional cultures where they are used there is a lot of preparation before you cross the threshold into that experience - Crossing over without preparation gets people into a lot of difficulty with themselves and all kinds of mental disorders versus the guardians of the elders of the tribe, special diets, rites and rituals so that you have a container in your self and in the community that will help you through the experience and to disregard and disrespect the power of the unconscious has consequences. Different traditions around the world have different thresholds, for some you have to step over them or you could kill a family member, for others you have to sprinkle holy water on the doorways and for some a vampire can be deterred with garlic or two shake hands or kiss across a threshold - one carries a bride across a threshold as well as a ritual. Once we cross a threshold we cannot uncross it and how we assimilate it will be another whole process.
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