Peter Miklis

Clearly, somewhere between being a rapist and being a pussy, there's a sweet spot that we as men need to figure out. Which is different for each woman. Here on this forum, there seems to be a lot of trauma going on, so clearly a lot of verbal consent is needed, however I know women in real life who wanted me to take innitiative, and be dominant, without the need to ask anything. But ofc, that's because they were strongly attracted to me in the first place. Reading the body language and situation is critical, if you want to make some bold move.

Wow, what a sleazy thing to do. Trying to get something throught friendship. Pretty disguisting. Your stories are pretty eye opening also.

@MatteO22 These ones are a lot better than that College humor crap?

@Mason Riggle That " 'till death do us part" is exactly what's wrong with marriage. It's just not realistic at all. It doesn't take into account the dynamic nature of life, and that people change. It's not wrong to be with a person 10, 20 years, or even a lifetime, but people shouldn't have to suffer any consequences if they, or their partner decide to leave.

@bejapuskas I still see no argument from your side on why should men get officially married nowadays. Also, you're ignoring incompatibility here, and that sometimes, couples were simply never meant to be together. Do you want them to find that out once they're already married and have kids? Just because you have 100% control of almost everything in your life, doesn't mean mistakes cannot be made. And mistake in choosing a partner for marriage can cost you a lot, especially as a man. Very simplistic of you. You just looked at the big picture and said "Animals endangered, hoomans not!" Yeah, of course that's true, but what's also true is that society has to have some minimal birth rate in order to function. Otherwise, the population will start to get older and older, and there will not be enough young people that can take care of old people. Do you want to die alone in some retirement home, having noone to take care of you?

@Parththakkar12 He does have control over it though. He has an option to make himself more attractive and likeable, thus minimizing the chance of rejection. The rejection will always be there of course, some women will just never like you no matter what. That's woman's side of responsibility in this situation.

@Parththakkar12 I mean, in an ideal society, everyone takes 100% responsibility of everything they can control. So in this scenario, both woman and man would be held accountable for the rejection.

@Terell Kirby @Mason Riggle An ideal version of marriage would be an unofficial one, where you just have the ceremony, give each other kiss, and tadaaa. You're married. With no contract from the state. If you're really about commitement, this is the way to go.

I think marriage is a bullshit concept, but having kids is not benefitial for society, it's literaly necessary lol. Society slowly dies if it's birth rate is below 2. However, from an individual, selfish perspective, I'd say it's better to not have kids. You can't really work on yourself and reach your full potential, if you got a couple of kids running around, bills to pay, and wife/girlfriend (who's hopefully supportive, and not a bitch, I mean you're really playing russian rullete with that one?) all at the same time. It's not only financially, but psychologically draining. Having family is not for everyone.

Right, I wasn't talking about legitimacy of feminism or MRA/MGTOW though, just that they are trying to achieve similiar things, but for opposite genders. I'd say feminism as an ideology makes sense if not taken to an extreme, like being concerned about manspreading or some ridicilous bullshit like that. MRA's have a few points here and there, but like you said it's mostly an overreaction to feminism. MGTOW shouldn't even be mentioned tbh? some of the most unaware people in that group, maybe even more unaware than extreme feminists.

@Harlen Kelly Why not? Seems to me like MRA and feminism are 2 sides of the same coin. Both of them are trying to selfishly get as many rights as they can, and neither of them are really concerned with dating strategies.

This is very true. That's why giving advice such as "don't put xyz on a pedestal" is very half-ass and incomplete, because even mentioning pedestals means that you believe there is one. So it's clearly comming from a place of resentment, anger and frustration. More complete advice would be "stop hating men/women and accept them for who they are, and challenge your negative beliefs about them.

@StarStruck Feminism is equivalent to MRA or MGTOW. Not really redpill related.

@Preety_India Just let the things develop naturally. Let the stones fall where they may. If it doesn't work out, no big deal, I'm pretty sure there will be another guy waiting for you. But, just to be safe, don't ever say you'd die for a guy. It's not good for you, him or your potential relationship.

Just keep improving yourself in every aspect, and throw away your insecurities. Easier said than done though. Personally, the only things I feel insecure about are related to personality, since I have nothing else to be insecure about? shyness fucked me over more times than I can count.

Fascinating indeed. Good for them I guess.

@RendHeaven All these terms are being defined so loosely and confusingly lol. Better to just not define them at all tbh, and come to your own conclusions throught real life experience.

Not all women get less attractive with age, and not all men get better with age though. This doesn't always apply. You also underestimate men's thirstiness. Even women in her 50's can literaly have hundreds of options if she's at least semi-attractive, even though in her eyes it's maybe 5-10. Can the same be said for most men? I don't think so.

@integral Idk why you people keep posting these low quality videos. Is you bullshit detector turned off? All of these "walk for 10 hours" videos could be easily made up in order to fit some narrative. How do you know they actually walked for 10 hours, or that the reactions of "strangers" weren't planned ahead? Not saying women or men aren't being harrased, not at all, but at least post some good video.

Sex is never really casual tbh

@mivafofa Putting as little effort into their sentence structure as possible lol typical

@mivafofa Being needy can definitely make person's life a lot worse, regardless of the gender. I think everyone should be honest about their intentions from the get go, and if it doesn't work out, well big deal, move on. I remember couple years ago, I was talking to one girl, with "I don't give a fuck", easy going mindset, and she liked that. Then I did a bunch of shit that she, I guess, interpreted as me being needy (even though I really wasn't), so, once she came to me and said "we're friends, right?" and I said yeah, sure. Did not care that much tbh. And guess what, at the end, it was her who ended up chasing me (not trying to flex, just stating facts). So yeah, it's important to keep your ego in check if you want to have any kind of success in life in general, not just in dating. Honestly, all the guys in those examples were better off just saying "Hey, I wanna fuck, you down?" At least they'd be rejected right away, instead if getting rejected trying to sleaze their way throught friendship.

@Zeroguy @Hulia True, but she still makes some valid points in her videos. Even though she has her flaws.

Interesting. Do you think that casual sex is not natural for most women, and that they mostly do it out of lack of self esteem? Or, are there women who genuinely enjoy it?

@Hulia Yeah, obviously for women there's a factor of having children, so they can't just have sex with anyone willy nilly. There needs to be some sort of trust and connection, otherwise it's rape. Having said that, I just find this solipsistic approach of "take care of me, I'm a little innocent princess" a little disguisting. And it's surprising when it's comming from women on this forum, who are supposed to be more conscious. It's almost like light form of gold digging, except the person doesn't admit it, but instead makes up some theory about masculinity and femininity, and how it's supposed to be this way.