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@neovox "What isn't so common is the peaceful bliss that is experienced upon release of form. The pain the physical body endures leading up to the moment of death is not pleasant obviously,. but the release of consciousness is a divine transfer. Consciousness time physical bodies is the more difficult. unlimited consciousness taking up residence in the experience of a limited physical form." But how do you know this?

I'm so glad I started this topic. I cannot negate anything you're saying here. "I want you to notice how it can only be meaningless from a human survival perspective; a perspective which only sees meaning in the perpetuation of its own agenda" Right. "You're looking at the phenomena of "animal" from a gross surface level and forgetting the immense density of stuff happening at the micro and meta-macro levels. You're not looking at the vast web of relationships in reality and how each part is dependent on the other. There is a necessity of everything being as it is, right now, yesterday and forever." Something I've got to work on.

@Carl-Richard My ego is stubborn and stuggles to see such an existence of "a bunch of cells killing another bunch of cells" as anything other than pure nihilism. Have you heard of the term "optimistic nihilism"? What do you think of it?

@Forestluv Great point. That's something to think about for sure. So, what I'm getting from people's replies is that I'm putting a negative label on the nature of survival, because it threatens my ego. Is this accurate anyone who is reading?

@fridjonk Thank you!

@Seraphim Meant "I" as God, not the human me.

@fridjonk So, what I think you're saying is that what I percieve as suffering isn't actually suffering, but the ego not letting go and accepting... accepting what?

@RendHeaven I will need to read this a few times to try to fully understand it, but wow very insighful reply.

@fridjonk Okay, but the brutality of life is still there. That suffering is there. It's happening.

Great post. It gets you thinking.