waheed

Humans have already mapped all known problems and solution structures, that formed primarily mathematics and science. However whatever patterns of problems or solutions LLMs train on, are limited by human language structure, i.e. human level of represenation of reality and relationships of those representations with itself and relaity. It's roughly a kind of analytical model, used to survive by humans. Human intelligence in that sense is the upper limit of LLMs, It's like juggling the same three or four balls but faster. In that sense super intelligence is just a "concept". Secondly whatever humans have developed is by being in reality, not just by being in language, LLMs on the other hand are just in language, not in reality. Do consider that representation of reality is not reality. It's real only as a representation not as an actual reality. That's where LLMs are way inferior then generally understood, since they are trained on human abstractions, i.e. content that humans have produced.

LLMs can slove problems and work with language. However since they rely on language and it's inherent structure, they won't go beyond it. But intelligence is not just language and it's inherent structure, human intelligence is far more complex then language, it's expressed in language, when there is a need of it, I'll argue that knowing and understanding is prior to language. Additionally, any higher intelligence will have a different language or maybe something totally different which will be enabled by their intelligence level that we cant imagine. Can a bird imagine anything about what humans created, i think not, just an assumption . Similarly a higher intelligence will have a different language (for the lack of better word), different concepts and different relationships among concepts that will enable them to express or explore reality at a very different level then us. Though i'm using these words, but we don't know what will be enabled by their intelligence level. As of now we don't know why humans evolved language, in evolutionary scale its a recent thing. Super intelligence is just a myth tech bros are selling us. There is more to this but i won't bore you further. Thinking, understanding and even intelligence is attributed to LLMs primarily to increase appeal for financial gains. Since reality of these things won't be so interesting.

This is an extended version of low hanging fruit logic, and it's possible that there are some low hanging fruits.

I usually get insights when i'm not completely awake in morning or when I'm not completely sleeping at night. Most recent one is about LLMs, basically it became clear like a day to me that while relying on human generated data LLMs can never surpass smartest human in intelligence. Even if they gather a planet size of compute. Basically intelligence is ingrained in abstractions and all the data humanity created, including all knowledge. A higher intelligence will have very different "content", for the lack of better word. There is another corollary to this which shows that LLMs are way inferior then we think. By the way i'm using LLMs every day in my work and they helped me alot

Any model stretched to the proportions this forum has done with SD, makes the model a constraint and an obstacle to get over.

It's good as an experiment, but doesn't sound like a good idea to me, it will breed some kind of conflict inevitably.

I basically look at the book list as titles that influenced Leo years ago, probably if he has to create a booklist now atleast some won't make the list for sure, I would recommend him to do exactly that in next update, retire books, since written words are not timeless. My favorite author from the list is Ralston offcourse i also don't understand why Francis and J.Krishnamurti made the cut. To me Ralston is bascially J.Krishnamurti 2.0, in a sense that his work is an extended commentry on JK, i don't know if anyone here views him that way. Ralston is grounded in reality much more then all the airy fairy stuff generally associated with spirituality, which keeps you real.

Nothing was said and nothing was heard, nothing written or read either.

It depends, your health goes down, if you work really hard at and are lucky you can decline the rate at which it goes down, which is good. Regarding understanding, it's a constant learning, each life stage is different so you become a different person, the person in his 20s has no Idea what 40s are like, similarly for 30s, even someone is 45 won't know what 50s is about. Life makes you learn, like it makes you learn now in whatever age you are. Everyone learns in some way. And there is no clever way to somehow future proof life, not even enlightenment. Enlightened or not, we are just a "something" in this life, while we are alive.

To be honest, life is living itself, i'm just reacting mostly and in some rare moments i do appear and notice whats going on, but i don't have any desires in those moments.

It doesn't change once you start believing it. It's not something we discover out there, it's a model we apply and all models are reductive at minimum and can be completely off the point in worst cases. It's a more deliberate way of crystalizing the self and then living as that.

Lucky you, the default place of no beliefs is the right place to be in. This allows for surrender to happen on its own, when one is faced with reality of possible ending of life.

I have been through a possible life ending situation an year ago. Nothing could comfort me in terms of beliefs, what helped was basically some understanding that i'm not here to start with, and it's an ongoing story that keep telling/creating myself. Reality of death is difficult and you have to surrender and go through it.

This forum should be called solipsism intensive. I mean every second post is about it. And i'm not sure if they are talking about the same thing.

you can start with a simpler question, what really happens when you are in deep sleep? it happens everyday(almost).