Preetom

This makes sense because most enlightened ones who had children, had them before their search even began...

@winterknight Can it be that after escaping the maze, they (enlightened ones) generally don't feel like bringing new generations in this hell and see the whole drama unfolding in front of their eyes all over again...?

I'm pretty sure that kid is a boy. There are other videos as well, where this same kid asks question. That aside, as Rupert's primary teaching method is so grounded on our present experience and not some exotic theory; I guess this is why young people get his point fairly quickly. It becomes obvious because IT IS HOW WE EXPERIENCE LIFE. The more we grow up, the further we seem to get away from this alignment

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Reading various posts about ox herding, I've thought about an alternative explanation of this whole metaphor which syncs perfectly with advaita vedanta. But people here might burn me at stake if I start expressing it

Dafuq is this? One thing is sure tho...your prayers won't work if they are haphazard like this

@SriBhagwanYogi This all basically boils down to staying with the pure I AM and stop imagining the I as this or that. Can I say it like that?

@who chit Can you describe or link the particular form of self-inquiry that you found to be most helpful for you?

This one as well @SriBhagwanYogi You know shit has hit the fan when the TV itself becomes conscious lol

@Mikael89 Well my view on this is, there are many many layers of reality that we can't sense with our limited mind perception. The regular body-mind identified state of consciousness (which prevails among more than 99% of people on earth), is one of the most constricted and narrow-gated states of being. There are obviously vast realms of 'weird', subtle experiences that we come to know through research, spiritual practice etc. Chakra, healing, siddhis etc. do point to new realms of experience. It's just that this whole business has framed these things in a very muddy manner and gave it all a bad name. So yeah, fluffy, exotic words and stories seem far fetched, but you can't deny the experience if it happens to you

Is it possible to transmit and communicate that level of Understanding as it is?

wow..rarely I see such question which answers itself first even before an answer comes forth lol. Is this kind of question a genuine inquiry to know or is it just seeking the approval of what it already taken as granted?

@7thLetter I'm glad that someone brought up this topic. I've been thinking about it for the last couple of days. I see all over the internet ''just do it'' mantra, how David Goggins was lazy at first but conquered all his bitching and moaning...but the question is, why doesn't it work. It only works in like less than 1% cases. Which made me think how difficult it is to actually make a whole civilization or tribe more advanced. Looking at our own lives, clearly it takes stupendous amount of time, backsliding, engaging, giving up, re-engaging just even to make some superficial change like changing one little habit here, changing one little thinking pattern there...imagine how complex it must get when applied in a mass population. I guess we have to accept at some point that, no explanation is perfectly complete. Just the fact that we are breathing now and it is sustained, really has no explanation. Sure we can make up models, so called biological scientific models but everything collapses at certain point..

In my experience, I've found that this 'state' doesn't come if I search for it or try to reproduce it on demand desperately. It's rather when I continue to see what I am NOT and as the attention starts to loose it's grasp from phenomenal experiences; 'I' just fall back into 'myself'. A holistic being takes place. The first time I experienced it, it was unforgettable. I literally felt like a little rabbit caught by it's neck in the jaws of a lion. The ocean of Being is so vast, it just floods and annihilates everything; leaving only itself...

Yes I've read it. Clarifies things about post-enlightenment. I think that's a good map to have but we never know how things will actually turn out..

Personally I got the most out of his 4th book Yoga of Consciousness.

@SoonHei As Ruper Spira would say, the highest prayer(or mediation) is being aware of being aware. You feel God's infinite presence(aka your own presence) so deeply, that you are just basked in silence; unable to desire or ask for any superficial stuff.

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Wow. Just wow. Personally haven't come across any book that integrates science, philosophy, spirituality, religion, epistemology this beautifully; that too in a very poetic and eloquent manner. I can easily see that this one book has the potential to be the pivotal point for the centuries come (If we make it that far by not destroying one another by then ) I doubt if one can really seeing oneself and the world in the same way after reading and contemplating on the contents of this book

you won't be able to do self-inquiry effectively if your mind is not already relatively quiet and alert to a degree. Self-inquiry will make you take that final leap but first you have to get close to the chasm. Self-inquiry will deepen that mental quietness and alertness exponentially and finally lead to liberation. If you can do self-inquiry steadily all waking hours(as it is prescribed originally), then go for it. But if it feels very boring, dull, conflicting, doubtful etc. most of the time then that means you gotta work through psychological, emotional, limiting belief deconstruction work to prepare yourself more. When self-inquiry feels joyful, relatively effortless then this signals that you can take it to the next level.

I feel ya man. It generally all starts with ''we have to fix the kid'' either in school or in family. this actualization business is probably the most complex puzzle there is, plus the social conditioning and default surrounding makes it several times harder. Journal and open the floodgates. let those hurt parts in you write whatever they wanna express without 'your' interference

According to the generalized instruction, anything that leads you towards a more quiet(as opposed to noisy, doubtful) and alert(as opposed to dull, blank) mind. From then on, self-inquiry all the way.

One of the points Eckhart Tolle successfully and very explicitly hammers is the inherent disfunction of a human mind at it's default state. An ego mind can never be satisfied no matter where it goes in the whole Universe. It will inevitably feel miserable, make a hell out of that place and subsequently suffer from it's own mechanisms. Unless the mechanism and fundamental nature of this mind is recognized, any external change is just window dressing. Ego always comes back to it's default disfunctional mode, no matter where it is. It's just a matter of time..

If this utopian vision doesn't come with a massive psychological and spiritual growth collectively as well, then suicide rate will go more than 80%...maybe even more

That is so true.. Actually our relationship and appreciation of language itself changes/evolves over time if we care to look. Our relationship with language varies from our childhood, in 20s, 30s, so on...if we are sensitive enough to look into this matter. Leo has already framed 'learning' or growth as 1) Observation and 2) Behavioral change. I guess a 3rd way to frame it would be, learning=unlearning