Nemra

Ok, we disagree. Sorry, but religion isn't about awakening.

Religion is religion no matter what. Have you seen awake religious person?

I would say that awareness helps you acknowledge the existence of ego.

They aren't the same, though. You become nihilistic when you start to see through your religion, which determined your reality.

I think the problem isn't about having an ego, but rather about not being aware of it.

Can you live without an ego?

Who lives without an ego?

Yep, a natural way of thinking for Christians.

Maybe you should question their spirituality. 😁 Maybe someone already traveled back in time. 👀

I have yet to see a pure-hearted Christian. When I say Christian, I don't mean SD Tier 2 person; I don't know if a person can be religious at that level. Maybe "green", but definitely someone who is mostly "blue". I think skeptics couldn't be at lower stages below than "orange". Also, being skeptical is important for being less biased.

Knowing whether something is socially constructed depends on the technology used. If someone traveled back in time with a camera and brought a picture of Jesus, then Jesus would mostly likely exist.

It's interesting, although not convincing for me. Even if it's proved to be true, it'll only make him a person that actually existed, but not the way that Christians believe of him to be. Also, bias could be relevant here if those scientists are Christians.

Christians are hella biased. 😏

The evidence is not enough to conclude that Jesus was wrapped by it. It's likely that the person Jesus existed, but Christians care about evidence as long as it strengthens their Christianity. They already believe that Jesus exists, because there can't be Christianity without him, and will just use that shroud thing as "proof" against the "skeptics".

He's coping so hard.

Armenians just can't shut up. Haha.

I agree. But for Jesus' case, it's different. He was dead long ago. People aren't even sure what he looked like. Even if there's a writing from the actual Jesus, how are we going to interpret his writing when we can't really imagine what life was like 2000 years ago where he lived? Although Jesus could be used to describe things that people associated him with, which don't have to be socially constructed.

I don't think it's 100% socially constructed as a historical figure.

@CARDOZZO, you basically admitted that he is socially constructed.

Jesus as a religious figure is socially constructed. Also, different religions and denominations have different interpretations about Jesus.

Why Elon, why!

It's an excellent idea. It would be like an interactive book.

Perfectly said. This is like throwing acid on a Christian's face.

Even if we think of ourselves as objective, what would being objective mean? Being aware of the system you're in? Moving into another system, if so, how many are there and which one could we go into, and would we stay objective as we are going to be affected by the system? 😅