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I don't think it's the right time for that. Why are they a waste?

I don't know that yet, but, man, DMT is WILD. I assure you that it's not rainbows and sunshine. It's just short. Although, I don't have a problem smoking more to prolong the duration. Which ROA is the safest and the most effective for DPT? I think I know which vendor you are talking about. Ok. Then, 4-HO-MiPT it is. I guess, I'll order them as pellets. Thanks. Will do.

@Ero, my English is not very advanced to write it eloquently, but I will try to share it. I'm thinking of testing the following: Salvia N,N-DPT Various 5-MeOs Some variant of LSD 4-HO-MiPT or 4-AcO-MiPT Thanks.

No, I haven't. I think it's too risky.

@Girzo, ok. Will do.

I guess I will order 4-HO/AcO-MiPT, which can mostly be considered synthetic mushroom chemicals, as @Girzo mentioned. I know more or less about the effects of psilocybin. Lol.

@Leo Gura, the problem for me is their tolerance and cross-tolerance, so I have to do a 4-sub last and only once to not lessen the effects of the other psychedelics that I will be doing.

@Leo Gura, if they are all mind-shattering in their own way, then I guess I must pick the one that is easily available and cost-effective per mg. Have you tried the DiPT, DET, DPT or DALT versions of 4-HO and 4-AcO?

@Leo Gura, are they too different from each other? Or are they more or less the same as long as you adjust the dosage?

@Girzo, is there a lot of difference between consuming 4-PO-DMT and mushrooms or truffles besides the inconvenience of digestion? I have already tried 15g Psilocybe tampanensis "truffles". Also, what kind of reagent do you use to test 4-PrO-DMT?

@Girzo, you mean fill the chemical into an empty capsule and consume it?

@Leo Gura, yes, it has been on my list to try. I would try everyone of them if they had little or no tolerance.

@Girzo, I was about to ask about that chemical. It seems that that chemical is not known to many people. What's your experience with it?

@LambdaDelta, I know one vendor who sells 4-AcO-DMT in Europe. The vendor seems legit. It takes more time to get psychedelics from them. The person I contacted told me himself that I must plan my stay 2-3 weeks ahead to avoid missing them. Although, I see that it's not legal even in the Netherlands.

I don't know, but it seems like I can contemplate on fairly high doses of N,N-DMT.

Ok, I will consider that. Well, I want to explore. N,N-DMT will always be available to me as long as I can get the materials for the extraction in my country. 4-subs' duration is longer, as I have read. I will also try a few 5-MeOs (definitely 5-MeO-DMT) and LSD. The problem of 4-subs is the tolerance.

@Schizophonia, is there a specific reason for using that one? Why not other 4-HOs or 4-AcOs?

I fear of absolute infinity because of losing my humanity, even if I got a little taste of it. However, I am starting to see how love has a part in this. Loving what the truth is, beyond human. By "absolute infinity", I mean the infinite possibility of endless actualizations.

#10 (A bit of taste of the infinite) While on DMT, I started focusing on what all of this is, and suddenly I was being reminded that I have to return to the absolute Infinite. It was extremely unbearable what my potential actually is. I thought, "How would I come back and live my life with that realization? It's extremely radical." I knew that that was my potential, but I didn't go all the way. It was just a taste. Honestly, this shit is getting very serious.

What about non-Scandinavian countries, like the Netherlands? That one's prevalent in mine too. Boys are too macho for that.

Lol. And the Asians are too pragmatic not to accept the offer, right?

Yeah. It's a bit easy for me because I don't desire having friends that much and I don't try to befriend anyone because I understand the consequences. I prefer being alone. Interesting. Is that exclusive to Swedes?

@UnbornTao, don't eat food, and you will understand the power and the directness of the chemicals. Finally, are you enlightened?

The thing is, women also play into that behavior. Some of them don't know better and think that they are being womanly by reinforcing it. It's nauseating to hear about both of their lives. Imagine people around you expecting you to marry someone of their liking and have babies, just so your family and extended family would be happy and proud that you are continuing their "genes". It's difficult to stand up for yourself when your survival depends on them and there's no easy way to escape from it.

The other option is the "nice", family man whose relationship decisions are based on his family and friends. He would gaslight his wife and would rather blame her than go against his family. There are lots of them.