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Be careful not to use that to justify what you find disgusting.

I agree. But there are levels, and they do matter.

Religion is like a crude game inside a game inside a game. The only way to awaken from that game is to not play, because it wasn't made to awaken in the first place, which paradoxically makes awakening possible. But other games might be different. The techniques can make you even more locked in that game.

That story is actually about rape. Anything else is religious BS.

@m0hsen Giving up religion is awakening.

Awakening is not possible by staying religious.

@m0hsen Sorry, but religions or religious people are more untruthful. By being religious, you will have a hard time actually understanding reality. You will not care about the truth.

Those are the same size.

No. Beside the spirituality bottle or inside it, but bigger than religion.

You're already in Christian Hell, but you don't label it as such. Recognize how much your beliefs are influenced by others. Knowing, feeling, understanding, looking, etc., is done by you and not others. What if they are wrong? You can never trust anybody to do things that are meant for you to do, but they have indoctrinated you into believing the opposite. That's why you can't look deep into your beliefs and actually question them. You think there's nothing to discover because it's already been done for you and is true. You believe that it's those priests or someone else's responsibility to give you the answers. That's the illusion that you have to see, and when you do it, you'll see how those people are also like you but afraid to do it, from priests to working people, because they really don't care about the truth.

Burn 1000%. 😭 My hell is enough for me. 🥲

@CroMagna Yes, you'll go to hell, and it'll be one of the best things you'll ever do.

I feel you. It's so difficult to rewire your brain after being that way for a long time. My dad is slowly learning that, but at what cost. Also, he loves Sadhguru. 😅

@Leo Gura I often think about what I would do if you were found dead (I don't wish) or stopped your work for some reason. It's a sobering question.

It feels unearned. But I'm poor; what do I know.

That's the trap that we all fall into, and then you start to confuse the guru's promoted spirituality with your lifestyle. Because he, like others, sells lifestyle but calls it truth, and that can become very delusional, which religions already do. The solution is so simple. It's making yourself independent of any guru or spiritual teaching or community.

TBH, those videos are enough. If you compare it to any other educational video, it's very high quality and actually deep. I'm still shocked that this is the case. Actually, it's traumatic. No one that I have seen and heard of, even offline, does this kind of thing, at least where I'm from.

@Ishanga Spiritual people also have (big) egos. People who teach them also have egos but don't like to admit it; some are even delusional. They are surviving like any one of us. They are just a different kind of garbage. (I'm not saying spiritual practices aren't helpful)

@ExplorerMystic Spiritual people are also full of themselves like others—even more, I would say.

I'm glad I stopped listening him. I don't envy his followers.

The neurologist sounds like he's got the top-tier membership.