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Someone who is able to have a social circle doesn't suck. A person who truly sucks wont be able to have a social circle, because that person wont be liked by anyone. So none of the guys you mentioned sucks.

I see.

I don't think the solution is to simply be more social. Only maybe to some incels. I, personally, think that the brutal truth is that most of the incels genuinely suck, so if a man sucks, then it doesn't matter how social he is. I'm talking from personal experience, I genuinely suck, therefore I'm a incel. No amount of social training can cure that. In the same way as a genuinely stupid person can't get a PhD in mathematics or something, no matter how hard that person tries. (I use harsh words like "suck" and "stupid", if you emotionally can't handle them then replace them with more politically correct words like "naturally less attractive" or "less intelligent".) There's high requirements for a PhD in mathematics. In the same way women have high requirements for a partner. And I don't think the incel thing is a new thing.

No I don't. I see, yeah maybe hindus don't pray like that. In that case: nvm about this thread. But it's easy to see the difference between people from asia, middle east and India.. but maybe I'm just stupid.

I think I should've put this thread in Self-Actualization..

I have social anxiety, I don't talk with people, and I have zero social skills, so that question would be too advanced for me. I guess I first need to be 100% sure that he's from India and is a hindu. Right now I'm only 99% sure. I guess I could start with "Where are you from?"

And I have read Bhagavad Gita, The Upanishads, The Concise Yoga Vasistha, Ribhu Gita, Ashtavakra Gita, etc.

Intuition, logic, common sense. "It will be just like before you were born" includes getting born. “If you want to know the future, look at the past.” - Albert Einstein

Yes.

I feel that if enlightenment is the truth, then it shouldn't be so damn difficult to get enlightened. I know there's some teachers who say: "it's not difficult, it's the most simple and obvious thing". But no it's not. It seems to be impossible to attain. I think that maybe 1 or 2 of you who reply are enlightened. But probably none of you are enlightened, if enlightenment even exists. Before even Leo said that he isn't enlightened, but I don't know if he has recently became enlightened. Especially for me it should be easy to attain because I wouldn't mind dying. I have nothing to live for. I'm already done with this life. Some of you will say: "you have to spend billions of hours of hard work to achieve it". There's several problems with that. 1. I don't have the energy for that. 2. I don't have the time for that. 3. I hate doing it. 4. I don't have the discipline for it. 5. I don't want to waste so much effort into something which might not even be true. 6. Psychedelics fucks up my psyche. They make me experience absolutely horrific things which traumatize me for years or possibly for life. I only get bad trips from everything. Even from weed I get bad "trips". I risk getting permanently mentally ill from psychedelics.

I see..

@Leo Gura I have been trying. I'm frustrated.

Is it because I don't have free will? So it's the real I who has free will, not this body/mind? So where is this damn real I? I can't find that bastard.

So the revelation should be easy to get. But it isn't easy. And it's frustrating.

Then it's a achievement.

@impulse9 Why does everyone recommend practices then.

The colors. No. I felt good. Kinda. A bit. Maybe. I don't know how to do it.

I guess I have, it was nice.

You yourself said that doing something specific instead of something else increases the chance of or gets you closer to enlightenment: @snowyowl I don't have suicidal thoughts or plans.

Going to a park and watch birds with a calm and clear mind will totally cause enlightenment. Not.

I don't have any fucking ideas of enlightenment. I don't know anything whatsoever.

I already know all that. I just want something to happen, anything, make it happen, anyone, in any way. How difficult is it to understand?

I just changed the title to: "If enlightenment is the truth, then why is it so damn difficult to happen?" Are you happy now? Can you all stop obsessing about the words achieve/attain now? My thoughts immediately goes to physical suicide again. It's weird that not more seekers committ suicide thanks to all this constant talk about death, beyond survival, etc.

@Moksha Okay thanks. What other word than achievement should I use then? Clearly enlightenment must be something which happens to this body/mind. Even just disidentification with this body/mind would be something that happens to this body/mind, or "death" of the separate self. Yes I understand that enlightenment isn't a better version of my egoic self, but again, obviously enlightenment should cause something for this body/mind, even if it's just a disidentification or end of a separate self.

@Breakingthewall I see.. @snowyowl Hi. I have meditated, contemplated, educated myself with the theoretical stuff, tried psychedelics one time, done self-inquiry, I also tried kriya yoga a bit. I have experienced horrific things, both on the one trip and many times sober. One time it was a blissful experience. But I think they were probably just delusions.