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@Emerald

@Raze When i made the post about being a virgin i was in a terrible depressed mood, and so i interpreted my situation based off this mood. Now i am in a better mood, i interpret my situation as very fortunate seduction wise.

@Emerald Well i guess since you think of yourself as average and you had hundreds of men being interested in you, that says that those men are weak, since they go for a woman that is average, hence making them overall unattractive. Look you ain't gonna give women the superiority in terms of dating, most women i am not attracted to, nor do i want to have sex with. I only want the hottest girls, and i think men who are experienced in pick up, think the same. It's only men who haven't attracted lots of hot girls that will go for an average woman.

@Raze Men don't sleep with women who are above average, they sleep with the hottest girls.

@Raze I definitely agree and for men, most women aren't hot.

@Raze It depends because some men's taste are really awful so that might play in favor of ugly women. But like the reality is that most women aren't hot, that's just the truth. Plus i wouldn't sleep with a girl who i find average, men sleep with the 6% most attractive, that's it.

@Emerald That's true for like 10% of women. 90% of women are ugly, and guys find them repulsive. I know it sounds harsh but hey it ain't easier for us, as men we have to approach thousands of girls to have enough experience to deal with women. So it is hard for both, but i would say men have way more room of improvement compared to women, however most men will never know or do serious pick up, so it ain't easy for them either.

@Elliott Lmao i guess if the guy is gay he'll be fine with it like this example doesn't really hold because straight men won't like being raped by gay men. However most women love having sex with men, so it's different.

@Emerald Honestly what men look for in a girl is physical beauty, so the top advice to give to women is to improve their physical beauty through dress, make up... And honestly some girls will just be forever unattractive and that is the harsh reality.

If we think of rape as a spectrum, since i got into picking up girls and gaining experience in the area of seduction my mind has definitely loosened about the notion of rape. Like i already kissed and touched girls without their official consent, and they were fully all over me and loved it. So in my mind, the gross idea of someone raping a stranger in the dark alley, i don't know if this happens at all, and also if it happens it is very rare and usually done by people with a mental disorder. Most normal people will not rape someone in a dark alley, but they can be bold and confident. ,My claim is if girls liked me touching and kissing them without their official consent, then where is the line between consensual and non consensual. I one time went talking to a girl at the club and without me even telling her anything, she went and accused me to the security guard. I didn't touch her, didn't have the time to make a full sentence, she went and reported me, i concluded she was mentally ill or something. And another time at the mall, in the day, i went and kissed a girl that i didn't know, after talking to her for a couple of senconds and she was happy about it. So my question is: what is rape ?

@Emerald Don't bring up past threads, let's just focus on this one. My point is reality is fluid and rape a mental construct. To put it simply it just doesn't exist, most of the times.

21 years old virgin, keep failing at pick up despite thousands of approaches. It's just that there's something wrong with life, at this point. I just don't understand what more should i do to get girls. I guess the problem with pick up is that it's seen as creepy to talk to strangers, it's just uncomfortable and unnatural, people naturally just want to talk to people they already know. I'm tired of failure. There must be something wrong with this world, man, i just don't get it at this point. Abstinence is torture and doesn't work. And when you try to take responsibility and fix your sex life, it also doesn't work. What should i do ? Go and rape a girl then? I just hate life because of this problem, all i do is think about girls and all i get is rejections. Is it my fault i was born with a body that craves sex without being able to ever satisfy this need ?

@Lucasxp64 I think i know the problem: i did the majority of my approaches while having an untreated mental disorder mainly ocd. This fucks things up a bit. I think that explains it.

It's a good lesson in epistemology to see how your mind is doing the same thing, the mind of these kids is doing. People do not see the depth of the problem of self deception, they just think kids are stupid and believe in Santa Claus. However a christian is doing the same thing in believing in Jesus Christ, i mean seriously what's the difference between believing in Santa Claus or believing in Jesus Christ being resurrected from death ? And also this problem is so epistemologically real that even scientists and atheists who believe in an external reality, and of other people, and of materialism are also doing the same thing just with different content, the structure is the same. Christians, scientists, and kids believing in Santa Claus, are all doing the same thing, aka believing without questioning, in other words holding dogmas, assumptions and not taking epistemology and ontology seriously. Here's the plot twist, Santa Claus is real, in terms of consciousness since consciousness is infinite and can imagine anything. However it does not mean those kids aren't foolish, because those kids are not conscious that materialism is a dream, and other people is an illusion within God's infinite mind. In conclusion: the christian fool thinks kids are stupid and believe in fairy tales, the atheist fool thinks religious people are as stupid as kids for believing in fairy tales, the wise mystic understand the problem of self deception and forgives the three of them. Without jailbreaking your mind, you look like a kid believing in Santa Claus to those who have jailbroken their minds.

@Leo Gura Hey leo, why did you lock my post about Santa Claus, i was editing it and making a strong case for Santa Claus being real, since everything is consciousness and imagination, if i become conscious of Santa Claus then Santa Claus is real. Similar to how you said consciousness can imagine a demon and it is real because it is within consciousness.

Part of this work is to question everything so might as well.

@Carbon Proud of your journey. Could you share in dms the porn you found ?

I've deconstructed reality, and became conscious to a point where my reality feels like a psychedelic trip 24/7.

@Princess Arabia Yeah i love the game of seduction.

Atheist tries out psychedelics: Watch only the psychedelic part. The problem is that even with psychedelic experience, his mind has still not deconstructed materialism, atheism, the brain...

Here what i've come to in my contemplation of these two minds: Features of the atheist materialist mind: turning outwards, believing in a external objective reality, scientific worldview, authority to science, believes the universe is physical, no God, only believes in what science has demonstrated to be the case, believes himself to be a human, believes in rigid categories of evil vs good, man vs woman, man vs machine, human vs animal, mind vs matter..., sees progress in terms of technological innovation, believes that religion, spirituality and mysticism to be non sense and unscientific fairy tales, sees animals as inferior to human beings and deserving of exploitation for the betterment of mankind, sees the universe as static, physical and independent of the mind, the world seems cold and foreign, this mind is very much alienated from the world, represses emotions, sees nature as a tool for exploitation, promote mastery over the world through science and technology. Features of the mystical psychedelic mind: turning inwards, grounded in direct experience and consciousness, conscious that the physical universe is God's imagination, takes epistemology and metaphysics seriously, questioning and deconstructing of one's mind, conscious of the self as God, non dual, sees science as a dream, sees animals as unique expressions of God's divine beauty and consciousness with a rich inner world and experience, sees reality as a fluid field of consciousness where the boundary between physical and mental or imaginary is broken down, and whatever one is conscious of is what's true, and where one merge in absolute bliss and ecstasy, experience emotions with mindfulness and mastery, embedded in nature, sees nature as a vehicle for higher emotions, consciousness and truths, nature mysticism, sees imagination as reality, promote inner wisdom and transformation, takes not knowing seriously.

@Leo Gura It ain't a reliable strategy from my experience at the coffee shop, you can't just hit on customers the way you do with pick up, your game has to be much less direct and straightforward. Plus at work you aren't anonymous, which makes it not a reliable strategy, i wouldn't bet on it to get laid. Plus i want to explore sexuality with many different people not just one. And i also enjoy pick up a lot, i love approaching, flirting, being intentional... I got so much experience and value from pick up, in the sense that it changed my worldview a lot in radically new ways, and i saw possibilities i couldn't have imagined in the past, like one time i hit on a famous girl on instagram (now she has like 1,7 million followers, but at the time she had 600 000 followers), i didn't know that though, and i flirted with her and was a bit cocky and all that, she didn't give me her number, she gave her instagram, i didn't have internet when i was with her so i couldn't check her account before i was at home. Btw why do you think she gave me her instagram if she had so much followers and obviously wouldn't respond to my messages ? anywho also other possibilities like multiple times i made out with 10 girls in one night at the club... I attracted and reached hook point with so many girls, it's crazy, how much value i got out of pick up and so much joy and exploration.

@Leo Gura It's a very small coffee shop, and there aren't lots of hot girls that comes in.

@Leo Gura I chose to quit high school because it was torture. Now i work with my dad, we have a coffee shop and when i finish learning everything i need to know about the craft, we're planning on opening my own coffee shop. So yeah i don't know seems like i can't move to another city for now. Also i was wondering if my pain due to not being able to sleep with girls is related to something in my brain chemistry, i was diagnosed with ocd, adhd, and bipolar, and so sometimes i am very happy and i don't care at all about girls, and other times i'm very miserable and depressed because i am not sleeping with girls, is it because of my mental health, or is it just normal for men who don't sleep with women to feel that way ?

Dude getting good with women is terribly challenging, especially when you have or had health problems, money problems...