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ChatGPT: When you imagine pausing all intense energy work and pranyama for a month do you feel: A: relief B: fear of losing progress C: something else me: 😅😅😅😅😅 also, I've fully decided (actually , it was revealed to me) that I'm going to be a life coach. My speciality will be men going through spiritual awakening. And men who want to improve their relationship with themself (and by extension their feminine), and men wanting psychedelic experience integration. I'm going to get my life coach certification from a 6 month program, as well as psychedelic integration training and potentially yoga teacher training . I want to give people actual spiritual practices that address their goals, not just a lot of talking. As an ENTP with a wealth of spiritual knowledge and nondual experience , I know I will kill it. But not *quite* yet, it's going to take a year or two of further practice. So that's my long term vision but for now I'm gonna keep building servers (maybe moving into software engineering like my degree? Seems unlikely given the market) and working on my awakening. And practicing using this forum and irl friends .

This is where I'm going to catalogue my spiritual practice disciplines.

I do a lot of spiritual practices but some of them are closer to hobbies than others . Like tai chi and yoga. Duolingo, smash bros.

I wonder what would happen if you combined this with kriya yoga. I know from Ingram FK is super powerful, and I've verified myself the power of kriya. I was doing holotropic breathwork before my main kriya practice for a short time and that was ridiculously powerful . Too powerful , actually.

🌿 Tai Chi Kriya – Grounding Practice (Revised) A personal fusion drawing from tai chi, qigong, and kriya yoga. Not a formal or traditional system — offered as a practical daily grounding sequence. 1️⃣ Grounding Chi (Arc & Press) Purpose: Connect crown to earth, regulate energy, settle the nervous system. Posture • Feet hip-width apart • Knees soft • Spine tall • Awareness at the crown (Brahmarandhra) Movement • Inhale: Sweep arms out and up in a wide arc to overhead. • Exhale: Unfocus on crown. Turn palms down and press slowly down the midline, fingers extended as if smoothing a wall of air. • Feel the energy descend into the belly and feet. Repetitions: 6–12 slow breaths. 2️⃣ Heart Tapping with Sound (Revised) Purpose: Clear and activate the heart center, balance emotional energy. Posture • Stand or sit upright • Shoulders relaxed • Hands lightly cupped 🔹 Phase 1 – Left / “Ha” • Continuously tap the left upper chest with the right hand. • Keep a steady, rhythmic tapping. • Simultaneously vocalize “Haaaa” continuously for about 1 minute or whatever is comfortable. • Breath releases through the sound. • Let it feel cleansing and clearing. 🔹 Phase 2 – Right / “Yam” • Switch sides. • Continuously tap the right upper chest with the left hand. • Vocalize “Yammm” continuously for about 1 minute or whatever is comfortable. • Let the sound resonate and vibrate in the chest. • Feel expansion and coherence. Repeat the two phases as many times as needed (2–5 rounds). 3️⃣ Archer’s Pose (Dynamic Stability) Purpose: Grounded power, direction, embodied confidence. Posture • Step into a bow stance • Front knee bent, back leg strong • Hips square Arms replacement: • The arm matching the front foot is the bow arm — it extends to the side (left if left foot forward, right if right foot forward), not straight ahead. • The opposite arm draws back at shoulder height as if pulling the bowstring. • Gaze steady over the bow hand. • On the exhale, release — envision an energy arrow of positive intention shooting forward. Breath • Inhale to draw • Exhale to settle and ground Hold 3–5 breaths per side. Alternate 3–6 times. 🌎 Suggested Closing Stand quietly with hands resting on the lower belly. Breathe naturally. Feel weight in the feet and spaciousness in the chest. Tips: “Ha” often ties to heart/lung clearing in sound healing/Qigong traditions; “Yam” is the seed mantra (bija) for the heart chakra in yoga/Kriya. Keep taps gentle—more vibration than force. Stop if any discomfort arises.

@Lazarus93 interesting point about losing the fear of death. I believe this also leads to losing the fear of life, they're one and the same fear, in a sense. Biologically all fear is rooted in the fear of death , so dealing with that helps to remove other fears (although not in a simplistic or all-encompassing way). One of the coolest awakenings I've had was awakening to intelligent design, for me this actually happened on a 7 day meditation retreat, not while on psychedelics. It was really beautiful , the Zen center was in a gorgeous region of northern Oregon, I was looking at the trees and the sky and realized how it was all masterfully constructed by God / universal consciousness.

Omg . Ive never heard it said so bluntly. It makes so much sense . I think it's also about "purity" even though I'm not catholic anymore my ocd still thinks sex is a little dirty.

😊. Right. Who am I to argue with destiny? lol. It's allll goood :).

I did lsd and mushrooms pretty extensively before 5 meo, they definitely motivated me but it was temporary . It has as much to do with where you are in life as the psychedelic. I think any psychedelic would work , depending on the person. Ram Dass began looking for his guru after doing lsd, for example . A hardcore meditation retreat could also work. Anything that gives you a substantial experience of awakening could work to motivate you to commit yourself to practice , in my opinion. I guess the advantage of 5 meo is you can take it more often than other psychedelics ... but that's also the downside, it's very easy to destabilize yourself (as I experienced, I wouldn't reccomend tripping as much as I did). Maybe it was more motivating for me because it more closely mimics the effects of spiritual practices, lsd and shrooms produce something visionary most practices don't, but it depends on the person.

Indeed. It felt so good not having any monkey mind , twice a week for two months, that I basically reoriented my entire life around making that my baseline. That's not to say I don't get discouraged. I'm well aware that after a year of practice I probably will have only raised my baseline by less than 1%. But I still know it's worth it.

@bazera I was doing very unfocused and sporadic practice before the 5 meo. Except contemplation , I have ocd and was doing too much of that. The 5 meo led to a spontaneous desire to do a lot of practices, yes. I became very disciplined about meditation and kriya. Whether it supercharged them I'm not sure, I had some weird experiences for sure, which settled down approximately a month after my last trip.

I think a lot of contemplation can lead to an awakening of the intellect, which is good- a lot of gurus don't have that, but ultimately to raise your baseline state of consciousness and see God requires a discipline of meditation and maybe some other stuff (like breathwork, yoga, etc).

My daily driver is kriya yoga, but taking Av Neryah's advice I immediately follow my kriya with do nothing meditation. In addition I do: yoga nidra (body scan heavy) hatha yoga tai chi / qigong I also went on a 7 day zen retreat (sesshin) and intend to go on another. The tai chi has a big effect on my kriya practice. I find it moves the energies raised by the breathwork very effectively . I also created elaborate metaphysical systems using logic, many many hours of that. I did a lot of 5 meo dmt over the course of two months and it led to me spontaneously doing all the spiritual practices I mentioned.

@Sincerity Doing a lot of spiritual practices has started to reveal my true inner voice. I heard it before but there was also a lot of conditioning. It was 80% conditioning and 20% my real inner voice. Now the ratios are improving, steadily, with daily meditation and yoga.

My longest relationship was two months. ROCD is the reason I walked away from it (I didn't know I had it, I thought God was telling me to end the relationship). And the next two and a half years were basically ruined because of the horrible depression that followed. I hate OCD but especially ROCD with the burning passion of a million suns. I would cut off my left hand to go back and not ruin that relationship.

I feel like I'm talented at consciousness work but I suck at manifestation . And I hear contradictory things about it, one person will say you manifest you need a burning desire, another will say you need to not care. I just want to make money doing things that support my spiritual journey. Ideally a remote job that supports my spirituality, so I can travel more.

This is somewhat tangential but I've been going to these spiritual discussion groups and I notice that if I don't say my piece in exactly the right way it becomes very tempting to waste time trying to mentally correct it while other people are sharing. Actually its not just at groups (but it's more emphasized), it's in all conversations. I'm constantly trying to correct myself when I should be listening, and I'll think if I don't say it just right people will be pissed off at me, and I'll interpret their response as they're pissed at me.

I interpret attraction from a woman as an attack. I don't know why.

IMO masturbation isn't *truly* sexually satisfying yourself, because you're still having sex with an external source, ie your mind / imagination. To sexually satisfy yourself means to raise kundalini and transmute sexual energy into spiritual bliss.

I was doing my practice today and started crying because I'm thinking about the woman I met. I'm once again in the ocd nightmare position of negotiating a potential romantic scenario and I'm so sick of it. Why can't I just meet someone and instantly I know they're the one and it's so obvious and simple? I said to God "I don't want a girlfriend right now , I just want You!" But maybe that's spiritual bypassing 😢

You won't necessarily get the message from one or two trips . I could take a dozen. Myself I had spiritual aspirations , I wanted to be enlightened, but it wasn't until the 5 meo dmt that my body seemed to want to do spiritual practices. Now I don't feel I need psychedelics but I can't say it didn't have a huge effect. Before I didn't meditate at all, now I mediate every day.

Maybe it's because it's now been a full month since my last 5 meo dmt session, or maybe because my nadis are cleaner now, but kriya seems more sustainable than it did for the first two months. I feel I can gently re-integrate it into my practice routine without overwhelm :)). *update 3 hrs later: Okay after the kriya session tonight I think I'm getting an idea of what might be going on. The first two months of my practice got very existential , ego dissolving. Now it's going in the direction of shadow work. I'm looking at my deep sadness and anxiety with different eyes and with that comes... well a lot of sadness and anxiety , but also freedom. One of my biggest fears is never finding a soul mate . But I'm not sure whether that's a genuine fear or society telling me I need to find the perfect partner. It's not really about it being attractive, recently I've verified as such, it's more about not finding the "perfect" person. Sigh, if I wasn't a good person dating would be easy . I'd just date someone and not care whether I was a good partner.

Grok : (this is very interesting! Much more "street cred" than new age breatharin gurus): " 1. Samyama on the Throat Chakra (Kaṇṭha-kūpa / Vishuddha) • Classical claim (Yoga Sutra 3.30): Prolonged samyama (dharana + dhyana + samadhi) on the throat pit can lead to cessation of hunger/thirst. • How it’s tied to breatharianism: New-age interpreters link it to kechari mudra + amṛta (nectar) flow from the bindu/soma chakra — supposedly nourishing the body internally so food becomes unnecessary. • Reality in traditional yoga: • This siddhi is extremely rare and considered a side-effect (upasarga) of advanced samadhi, not a practice to force. • Patanjali warns siddhis distract from liberation (3.37). • No historical or modern verified yogi lives indefinitely without food solely from this. • How to practice safely (if you want to explore for other benefits): • Sit comfortably → focus on throat pit (base of neck, blue light visualization). • Chant bija mantra HAM (hum) mentally on breath (inhale Ha, exhale Mmm with throat vibration). • 5–10 min/day, no forcing. • Benefits: clearer voice, confidence, reduced self-censorship — not food elimination. • Safety: Completely safe when gentle. No fasting required. Do not use this to justify stopping food — that is misuse and dangerous."

Sounds like it's just not talking about not wanting to fully awaken. Doesn't seem like it has much to do with psychedelics , unless the "non awakening" awakening psychedelics produce is particularly seductive. But the idea that you will permanently be unable to awaken if you momentarily succumb to an imitation of it is pure fear mongering, in my opinion. When I trip it's with the intention of lasting change , the momentary glimpse is secondary. I spent several years experiencing this so called luciferian imitation of awakening, via cannabis, but that had no impact whatsoever on my ability to experience real awakening via 5 meo and later kriya yoga . There's a lot of paranoia among spiritual people. "Conspirituality" is a term for it. It's a trap. Psychedelics increase full brain communication and decrease activity in the default mode network. That's it. The spiritual mind loves elaborate spiritual stories . But it's bullshit, realize you're God, that's spirituality. *** okay maybe that's not all psychedelics do. But as a counterpoint to new age paranoia I said that.

I was very naive as a young spiritual seeker. When I was 18 I ended up in a discord cult with no real spiritual practice, just lots of super powerful placebo transmissions. A year later I did some hardcore , probably dangerous, fasting in an attempt to become a breatharian (new age speak for one of the siddhis described in the yoga sutras). I do think such distractions served a point. The point being it's really hard to say I would have benefited from real consciousness work at such a young age... it certainly wouldn't have prevented the suffering I was destined for in my early 20s . Thankfully nothing too serious happened... I could have joined a "real" cult or fucked my body up. That's good. Actually Dr K explained how transmissions (or diksha, initiation) works. You really only get it once, your guru blesses you , and that helps kickstart your process but it doesn't do the work for you, and you also don't need like 3 of them a day to make more progress. I think consistent spiritual practice *might* make the body more efficient and therefore less food is needed. But I don't think fasting an arbitrary number of days has any effect. Would not reccomend dry fasting at all.