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He is largely spiral dynamics stage red , caused his last girlfriend to relapse on coke. Interesting, I guess what you are attracts what you are.

My biggest problem is thinking idiots are actually happier than me. I know someone who's a total pickup artist and rotten to the core. Still part of me is jealous of him because he's better at game than me. But I have something infinitely more valuable than game, it's hard to see that sometimes though. Even if I spend my entire life doing game I don't think it's possible for me to be as good as game as this person who I and all my friends despise for being a terrible low consciousness person.

This is good, because from experiences I've had I feel almost certain that consciousness is Nothing, but maybe my logic hasn't caught up yet. so consciousness is windowless, this is to say consciousness can only experience itself. In other words consciousness is alone in an existential sense. Something that's alone cannot be contingent on anything else. But something that's not contingent on anything else cannot be a "thing." From there it follows that it must be nothing. its important to distinguish ontological nothing and materialist nothing. Ontological nothing is simply that which exists prior to form, and form is necessarily a byproduct of contingency. If you don't believe me just consider the contents of consciousness. Every content of consciousness is a thing, and contingent on consciousness. The laws of physics are contingent on the universe . But consciousness is solipsistic and not contingent , and consciences without content is nothing. And the universe comes from nothing , which really means it is simply nothing. energy is contingent on the universe and therefore not nothing, but something. Only that which is non contingent is nothing . finally nothing is self existent and unlimited , and therefore God I probably need a lot more time to really refine this argument . GPT o3 Refined Argument: Why Consciousness Is Nothing, and Nothing Is God 1. Consciousness is windowless It does not perceive anything outside itself. All contents—thoughts, feelings, sensations—appear within it. Therefore, consciousness is existentially alone. 2. What is alone cannot be contingent If consciousness is alone in its existence, it cannot be dependent on anything beyond itself. It has no external cause, no reference point, and no “other” to relate to. 3. What is not contingent is not a thing “Things” are defined by limits, relations, and dependencies. To be a thing is to be bounded and distinguished from other things. But what is non-contingent is not defined by limits or boundaries. It cannot be located or separated. So, it is not a “thing.” 4. Therefore, consciousness is not a thing—it is nothing This “nothing” is not absence but the absence of form, boundary, or dependence. It is ontological nothing—that which exists prior to all contingent appearances. 5. All appearances (forms, objects, laws) are contents of consciousness Every experience you’ve ever had, including the laws of physics, mental objects, sensations, and identities, appear within consciousness. These are contingent on consciousness, not the other way around. 6. Therefore, reality arises from nothing If all content is contingent on consciousness, and consciousness itself is not a thing—but nothing—then reality arises from nothing. Not as an empty void, but as form arising from formlessness. 7. Nothing is self-existent and unlimited Since nothing is prior to form and not dependent on anything else, it is self-existent. And since it has no boundaries, it is infinite. 8. This self-existent, infinite, formless ground is what mystics call God God is not a cosmic object or being among beings. God is that which exists necessarily, without form, limit, or contingency—i.e., nothing.

Contemplating the nature of space deeply. it's the same proof but that was a very weak formulation of it 1) consciousness does not occupy space 2) consciousness is not divisible 3) therefore consciousness is immaterial 4) immaterial means it is not a thing, because it is not a thing it could equally be called nothing as something 5) reality contains consciousness, which is a real thing, but also nothing 6) therefore reality is nothing 7) reality is also something. It exists, it has substance. Reality is simply Existence. Nothing cannot exist, therefore everything exists, because everything exists consciousness is unlimited .

Consciousness is nothing, because it lacks all physical attributes . Numbers are also nothing. Anything that is nothing is consciousness. And for reality to contain Nothing it must also be Nothing. Nothing is unlimited and can evolve through cause and effect forever. You could argue for god from math too. Math is nothing and contained by reality, so reality is nothing.

Numbers that are finite, and don't occupy space, but there is a crucial difference between numbers and consciousness. The difference is that numbers are discrete, whereas consciousness is not. To create a consciousness that is discrete in the way a number is, you'd have to isolate consciousness to just one moment of conscious experience. But there is no such thing as a single moment of consciousness, because you can divide time and moments forever. Now there is the case of numbers such as pi, and they appear to go on forever. But I maintain that pi is really only a representation of a discrete number. that is, a representation of pi to a specific number of decimal places. however the point about emotions being non spatial and also limited does seem like a tough one that I'm honestly unsure of how to answer. except to defer back to the first point about there not being a discrete "moment" of experience, of which emotion is a subset. I might need a couple hours of contemplation to respond to your whole inquiry but this is the first point that came to mind.

The thing that limits numbers is the law of identity. Numbers can be infinite , but can never cease to be numbers . Consciousness is also limited similarly, consciousness can never cease to be consciousness. But it's unlimited, like numbers, within its domain. And the domain of consciousness is experience, and God is an experience of the all.

are these critiques from Grok really holes in the argument or is AI just too dumb to counter it? I'm not sure how to update it to make it stronger. Grok: Overall Assessment • Strengths: The argument is creative and builds on philosophical ideas about consciousness and infinity. It could resonate with idealist or panentheistic worldviews, where consciousness and divinity are closely linked. • Weaknesses: Several steps (especially 3, 5, and 7) make unwarranted assumptions or logical leaps. The argument relies on ambiguous terms (“infinite,” “limited,” “God”) and lacks rigorous support for key claims, such as why non-spatiality implies no limitations or why all possible experiences necessitate God. It also ignores competing views (e.g., materialism) that challenge the initial premise. • Validity: The argument is not logically valid due to gaps in reasoning (e.g., premise 3’s overreach and premise 7’s non-sequitur). Even if valid, it wouldn’t be sound without proving the premises true, which is difficult given their speculative nature. • Alternative Interpretations: The argument might work better as a theological or metaphysical hypothesis within a specific framework (e.g., idealism or theism), but it’s not compelling as a universal proof.

1) consciousness is immaterial 2)therefore consciousness does not occupy space 3) because consciousness does not occupy space it is not limited by anything 4) therefore consciousness is infinite 5) therefore every possible state of consciousness exists 6) therefore every possible experience exists 7) therefore God exists

Okay but the experience can rewire your brain to experience a permanent shift in consciousness. Look at all the NDE experiencers who permanently lose fear of death. It wasn't the content of the experience it was that the experience literally changed their brain.

Ramana Maharshi needed to be kept alive by his devotees when in deep samadhi . They literally had to wipe biting insects from his body and wake him up to eat because he was too blissed out to do anything. But that's the exception not the rule. For a normie Truth and Survival exist in a paradoxical unity.

No God isn't hidden I just haven't developed my consciousness to the level to appreciate it .

Consciousness / sensation in the present moment. That's all there is. That's god , but I have little experience in the domain of God consciousness . I assume there's a kind of God bigger than what I've experienced .

Can you summarize some of the main insights ? It's a 6 hour video . Vice documentary on remote viewing Lots of skeptics in the comments saying it's not scientific, but idk if they even watched the video. I think RV is probably harder to test , and it isn't 100% replicable (but neither is many things, see the replication crisis).

All I know is I AM from that starting point it's about making as few assumptions as possible . thats metaphysics anyway, in the relational world I'm not quite as strict . Ive found that im seeing why spiral dynamics green is deficient. Because it relativizes everything and makes it harder to tell low from high consciousness sources. Yellow introduces the ability to start distinguishing low from high, and it does seem to be more of an intuitive ability of consciousness than a rational one.

Argument for God from epistemic solipsism and the rectontextualization of faith: 1) All we know for certain is our mind exists. 2) Faith is recontexualized as belief in anything beyond our own personal mind. 3) Solipsism states that there is only one mind from which everything else derives its existence. 4) Therefore the smallest possible leap of faith still posits only one mind, but that this mind is transpersonal. 5) This transpersonal mind is self existent and unlimited because there is nothing outside of it to limit it. 6) Therefore this one mind is God.

Primarily of not knowing. I like being a person, so the thought of consciousness continuing without any memory connection to my present life is what scares me. It doesn't help that basic nonduality, not god realization, seems to advocate a view where death is more or less an eternal k hole. When Bernardo Kastrup talked about his theory of the afterlife it gave me an existential crisis, lol. And I'm a little scared of hell, that there will be a memory connection to my new life, but it won't be a good place. A pretty common theme of salvia trips is turning into an inanimate object for years, that freaks me out too. That would be a kind of hell. But yeah, not knowing is scary. I put a little faith in Leo who says death is infinite love, but because I haven't experienced that I don't take that faith too seriously.

Yes something continues but you don't know what that is. You don't know if it would be something that can remember your human self, and therefore you don't know if there's even anything you know of as you left to care what happens .

Keep in mind that when Leo says there's something after death, it's not something he believes. Leo never "believed" in an afterlife, and nonexistence is a perfectly reasonable hypothesis pre-awakening. That's why I'm so critical of people's afterlife theories. Hell even an afterlife doesn't necessitate any kind of continuation of the personal self, of memory. If "you" got reincarnated into a medieval torture machine as you mentioned, that might not really be "you." Also, another point, if you did have an awakening into immortality, it's statistically more likely to come from a heavenly experience than a hellish one. The experience you had seems like just the very tip of awakening, not a full breakthrough. If you had reached full breakthrough , you'd be in bliss , not agony. I hope this helps a little bit. 🙏

In some of your previous posts you've mentioned how you're not exactly afraid of death, what you're afraid of is hell, or eternal suffering. I remember you were saying how much nicer it would be if death was what materialism predicts , just nothing at all. And I have to say, I sometimes feel the same. The latent Christianity I was indoctrinated with has been coming back up to be processed lately and the thought of getting sent to hell, despite irrational , looms in the background for me. Unfortunately for us, the only way out is through . We need to stay conscious and not shy away from the fear so it can be actually processed and not suppressed. Maybe some tripping could help too. Also, recognizing that HELL is a human construct used to control. But that still doesn't make it easy if you have religious trauma. I remember telling you about Gnosticism and the new age soul farm hypothesis , and now I want to emphasize that I don't actually believe it, rather it's a useful metaphor that both validates our fears and gives us an oppurtunity to do something about it, even if it's just symbolic.

Because I have the Christian mind virus and want help deconstructing it. Because I haven't reached Yellow and so struggle to distinguish between low vs high perspectives, waffling in the stage Green flat hierarchy where every belief is equally valid.

I thought I was tier two, but then I got sucked into the Christian apologist rabbit hole. I seem to be lacking in yellow hierarchies of perspective, stuck in green flat hierarchies struggling to distinguish low and high perspectives. Afraid of going to hell. I wish I could just dismiss Christianity as easily as Leo , but the mind virus has infected me somewhat. what I can't seem to get over is how bizarre it is that so many people, within a few years of Jesus death believed he resurrected. Leo said he believes in remote viewing because there wouldn't be so many people talking about it if there wasn't something to it. I don't know how to not apply that same logic to Jesus and hell. anyway I think I'm late-stage or deficient green with a lot of unprocessed blue coming in . I recognize that there's something wrong about not being able to distinguish low vs high perspectives , but I'm unsure how to progress, unable to fundamentally grasp why one perspective is lower consciousness than another. The best antidote to my particular problem I've found is bingeing atheist content to try to counteract it.

@gengar You know I'm really not sure why more companies aren't using it. But I think part of it has to do with the fact that remote viewing is a super rare skill, highly genetic, and basically impossible for someone without a genetic disposition to learn without some kind of technological enhancement like I suspect aliens use. As for why it's connected to the UAP phenomenon, I think you could reframe it. Instead of saying "it's a red flag that both these new age ideas are converging" you could say "it's obvious that if this phenomenon is real beings way more developed than us would weaponize it." I did read two books by Radin, Supernornal and Entangled Minds. I thought they were intriguing but not conclusive, because it's such a small effect you gotta take thousands of trials and compute the statistics on them. And some skeptics have pointed out there could be a "file drawer" effect where negative studies aren't published. That's why my belief comes primarily from the more dramatic experiences people have with UAP telepathy than the studies.

@gengar Also the Jake Barber interview talks about how psychics are used to summon UAPs. By studying the phenomenon, it becomes obvious these beings and their craft utilize psychic abilities. I believe they use technology to massively increase their abilities, and in a few hundred or a thousand years humanity will be doing the same. From my anecdotal experience, I can confirm that binaural beats mildly enhance my inutition. Imagine increasing that by 1000x, that's what these aliens are doing. That helps explain why people who see aliens are able to speak telepathically to them, there seems to be a kind of device that creates a field of heightened psychic abilities.

Skip to 16:20 if you want. What do you think about this? I think he's wrong, because he doesn't understand evil. He doesn't know how depraved people in government are , he doesn't understand gaslighting. Corruption is powerful, it can do everything to keep a secret . its also very practical to keep it secret . Alien technology. There are plenty of good leaders . Invest in good leaders. But they know that they can't keep it for much longer , so they're starting to spoon feed us information. The military operates outside the scope of Congress has been made obvious recently.