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I think that these kind of threads in a way is the same on a structure level as the incel threads which creates the dynamic where the war only intensifies even more. If we want to be a community where we are loving and try to grow together - I belive it is necessary to not only stop promoting how "the evil girls " are the bad ones, but also how the " the evil boys" ( Incels) are the bad ones. Notice. It's the same dynamic. That's why both sides hate eachoter. It's a projection on both sides. No one can't stand themselves.

What is the thing/ skill that you are best at?

Yeah that was my thought process aswell but who the fuck knows about anything. Reality is strange and strangeloopy. My theory is that he is a 5 wing 6

@Leo Gura

Some say he is 3 wing 4 but I don't know about that. I mean maybe. I know to little about this to tell.

I don't know If this helps but I deal with it by realizing that what ever happens has a purpose and that we are guided to love. We will be okey.

I'm curious about your POW on this. Could it be that woman here are acquainted with the shadow masculine and that the guys are acquainted with the shadow feminine? If not, what's the difference between the two forms of masculinity when it comes to the gals on the forum? ( shadow and "normal" familiarity with the masculine) @Emerald

I have a question, but which needs a build up... Take the following anecdoteical scenario. If a man where to constantly emotionally abuse a woman, the woman would reject the man and run away. She is forced to distance herself from the man because otherwise she would be in danger. The masculine energy is in this scenario not capable to create a shell for the feminie to be itself in. The woman in this scenario is in other words disowned by the masculine by the emotional abuse/ neglect and is now forced to provide on her own. The masculine energy has pushed her away which made her run even further away to avoid the dangerous " masculine energy". She is not one with the masculine anymore and therefor must separate herself from the masculine to be safe. What's interesting however is that when the feminine ( the woman) is doing that, she is simultaneously rejecting the man by distancing herself from the masculine because it is dangerous, thus creating more separation. Does this mean that the feminine also must learn to see the masculine perspective in order for the relationship within the parts of the ego to heal, or is the work only in integrating the feminine side which then will make the feminine side more comfortable with the masculine? Is it possible to integrate the feminine side without considering and providing love for the masculine side at the same time? Can one have a good relationship with the feminine if the the feminine also pushes the masculine away? @Emerald

@Emerald Is the opposite true aswell, that you by repressing your masculinity repress your femininity? Also, is it possible that you as a man can repress your masculine side aswell? How does that look like? I know that I for example still repress my feminie side by disowning it but that I also at the same time reject my masculine side. It feels like I am both repressing my feminine side and masculine side. How does one solve both if that exists? Thoughts?

Sometimes Leo talks about the importance of being a strong man to attract woman. What does this mean in practice and how do you develop it? I want to find and unleash my inner monster masculinity but I don't know how to find it. Any resorces, ideas or reccomendations? @Leo Gura

https://nypost.com/2018/02/27/binge-watching-leaves-you-anxious-stressed-and-lonely/amp/ It's like setting yourself in a light depression.

You obviosly want to know how to know If you care about the truth which is a question based on wanting to know the truth when it comes to this question, hence.. you care about the truth. You wouldn't have asked this meta question otherwise Another good way to check this is to notice if you can get excited by being wrong and becoming aware of that. If you like that, it probably is becuase that means that you now are closer to the truth and therefor get excited becuase you care about truth.

@Leo Gura any news on when your new course is coming out? Don't say this year.

Experiment and see what's true for you. Probably. Sure there is nothing else to do, but that doesn't mean you can't do other things that is more meaningful to you. Also, If you spend all of your time playing video games you will not find and develop your LP and then forced to work at starbucka instead of playing video games and that will suck either way. I can only answer this from my own perspective but playing video games all day makes one miserable. When I feel my best, I am meditating. When I feel my second best is when I am doing stuff that I know makes me feel good, like exercising, eating well and working towards my LP and in my zone of genius. I do love to watch YouTube and play video games too, it's just that after I've done it I feel like shit. "8 hours of civ 5 a day makes me depressed, night and day - eventhough I love playing it everyday" ~ very wise person.

@Hulia That answer is enough in of it self. XDXD would love to know If you consider yourself the opposite of a perfectionist and in what ways if you want to share. ( just because I am curios)

What's your MBTI? @Hulia Doesn't this mean we attract the opposite of ourselves as a self concept but the same on a shadow level? I think what I am looking for is first integrating my victim mentality which is a shadow feminine element, and than help another part of me get in touch with itself ( my masculine, monster part) so that it can help the part of me that feels helpless and unsafe. @Gianna

Interesting, thank you for sharing!

Does this mean that we attract a part of ourselves that we disown/ reject? I only attract girls who are depressed or emotionally Ill/ have a victim mentality ( learned helplessness). Does this mean I disown me feeling like a victim? Huh. Maybe, it's an interesting idea. @Gianna

Congratz in advance. How old are you? My best and worst year yet was when between 19-20. It gave me a lot of wisdom about life in so many ways.

Thanks for sharing this bro, it's super interesting. I think that this somehow is related to internal shame and that you cum becuase you envision yourself subconsciously to be that beta male that give her the money + that you now have got what you wanted... but only by creating a situation where she will give it to you ( paying). The same dynamic I belive occurs in voyeristic fetishes aswell where you get turned on by the fact that you now get what you want and the woman can't deny you that experience.

I´m working towards integrating my anima ( Spiral dynamics stage green) and I have noticed that I resonate a lot with Jordan Peterssens's take on feminism. I strongly contempt the idea of feminism as a means to justify that men and women should have equality in terms of outcome and I get triggered by the reporters and women in general who debate that this should be the goal. I AM ALL FOR EQUALITY OF OPPORTUNITY but I get so triggered by the entitlement that women, because they are the oppressed ones, should get quoted into different social institutions and that we should select people based on the idea of making everything 50 50 ( The victim mentality). Of course, there should be a representation of different folks in society and it´s good that more women get more power for the whole development of our species, but man, it is something about this, that puts me off ( It´s probably when thinking about it because I feel oppressed by a woman the same way that women feel oppressed by men) Here is a video that explains JP's take on feminism? Where are we wrong? what am I missing? The answers should preferably come from spiral wizards ( yellow and above) but all thoughts are welcome. I am anticipating a lot of green backlash as replies, and honestly, I welcome that. If you genuinely felt like this was the most devilish and sexist crap ever, please reply and tell me exactly how you feel so that I can practice loving and understanding ( your perspective) green without banging my head against the wall I would really appreciate it, Again what do I got wrong? What are my biases? Why can´t I stand spiral dynamics stage green? Or does Jordan Petersen have a point? I would love to hear your thoughts @Nahm @RendHeaven @Emerald @Leo Gura

The thing that you're missing is that most guys who suck with girls are either A socially unintelligent or B have low self esteem or C both. Guys who are all that and especially C ( those who have low self esteem) struggle to attract girls because they just are too insecure. I don't know how many times I've been rejected, solely for that reason. In that case, being social won't help you because girls view you as unattractive becuase guys like that are unsafe for women's survival. I like your perspective a lot. There are some real gems that one could find but also realize that attracting woman if you're an inseceure man is fucking hard... and that it's not an easy solution to the problem. It's just not " be more social'... like the experience of many men is that it is hard.... and not easy, and I belive most men who struggle with this just want that acknowledged. Not that they are right, but that it is hard.. at the very least for them. For guys who struggle with this it feels like a catch 22 that you can't escape from. You want to be confident in order to attract woman but you can't and therefor become even more anxious. When someone then suggests to be more social as an easy solution without trying to understand how hard it feels for for them, many men feel missunderstood, which makes the incel dynamic continue. @Emerald

I think you need to do more research into the problems men face with attracting woman. It's very easy to come up with a perfect solution for the opposite gender and to a problem you never faced yourself.

Wait so they should be mad at the patriarchy for sending weak men to war? How the hell does this solve their problem If anything - by that logic Incels should want them to send men to war becuase not sending them to war "creates" the problem of too many men ( if that's the problem narrative one wants to play) Is there something I am missing? Also, side note. It's very easy to say " be more social and all your daiting problems will be solved" Hell no they won't. That's like saying to a person suffering from a eating disorder to more and all your problems will go away. The problem is not, not being social per say. The problem is low self esteem, anxiety and depression.