Just a note: keep calling the topic starter reaching out for help as "this person" does not show much empathy.
Years of study is not passport of understanding. Real connection starts from a place of understanding instead of labeling people as "toxic" or "low on some spectrum".
The suggestion of therapy given from a place of compassion and from a place of shaming and isolation leads to completely different results.
Fatherly advice is effective when the one asking for help completely trusts the coach. Not from a random person. If Leo gives this type of advice, people in this forum would find it easier to accept because we have benefited so much from his generous sharing of wisdom. But people reach out for help in this forum for advice and discussion, not for shaming under cover of honesty.
