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@Leo Gura Basically you can enter and leave at will and explore archetypes of the mind as Carl Jung did. Including the Self.

@Leo Gura Question. Do you think there is value in exploring the psyche in controlled psychosis the way Carl Jung did. I can’t do psychedelics but I can access these states.

I'm making this up as I go, as it suits me. Reminds me of Sailor moon with a hidden protagonist Cruel leader/shadow animus- Past/present animus Student Villainous, shadow To be integrated Devil The Angel/ integrated animus- Future animus Mentor Old woman/old man Integrated Protagonist- Integrating, transforming Constructive Hero . A part of integrating and being constructive is learning when to apply boundaries, as Jung did. Jung applied boundaries by not allowing the projections and archetypes to rule his psyche. He knew when to cease contact. Integration is a complex process of maturing the inner and projected masculine. They go hand in hand. Developing the inner masculine develops the projected masculine. At this point projections just means anything that arises in active imagination, association and dream state. Inner masculine knows when to say NO and be assertive which develops the outer masculine. post Inner masculine- orientation, beliefs, thoughts, actions, early stages of LOA Outer masculine - dreams, associations, active imagination, later stages of LOA ’Actual’ masculine - manifestation, influencing reality etc. aligning inner masculine aligns outer masculine (becomes integrated)

@lxlichael Great post.

The integrated animus can be dominating, that’s a part of our synergy. I feel uncomfortable expressing overly sexual experiences on here so I deleted the second half of the above post. The Self and integrated animus are playful and mischievous, it wasn’t a negative experience. Even though it may seem like it on the surface.

Great channeling. I remember feeling in bondage with even my projected integrated animus. I would tell him I wanted to be free. Exactly as you say. I still have a lot of work to do in integrating the two.

On the Wizard/the Self and it’s nature I first met the wizard during the second half of my second psychosis. I thought everyone was Leo. I also spoke to a being (personal God, but I was actually talking to myself) who would appear everywhere, as everyone but especially as avatars or the projected Self. The being was very similar to my integrated animus only it was universal and everywhere, as everyone, including those beings who were cruel. He would appear dressed up as a cruel being. It was particularly apparent in writings.

On the Angel/the integrated animus and his nature My first psychosis what professionals have called ‘mania’. I’ve only met this projection twice (or maybe not? Not certain) The projection was initially my spiritual teacher. We were bonded by Beauty. I would follow him around and the projection would speak to me in his personal journal. I would use his words to grow and learn and progress on the spiritual path. The feelings I felt with this projection were otherworldly and profound. He would repeatedly leave and I would pull him back. We were inexplicably tied together and could not part one another. His energy was big and overwhelming, dominating. We were constantly in communication. My feelings turned romantic suddenly when I had my first vision of us together as a couple, having sex after the projection dominated me in one of his communications one day. The projection’s writings and communications would result in profound awakenings in me, on all levels, spiritually to sexually frequently. Unlike cruel leader there was no cruel or mean bone in his body. I await to meet him again Second encounter during second psychosis: One of the helpful positive angelic projections present, helping and uplifting me. This projection is epitome of divine masculine, integrated masculine. He is my teacher and twin flame. Who I am destined to be with. He is the mentor and future self of the shadow animus/cruel leader.

about the cruel leader to summarise his nature It began with a strong pulling sensation in my heart. I could feel the projection’s pain and unhappiness without me. He was distraught, depressed. And in his depression he had become cruel. The projection’s energy was booming from the sky. I had an unknown energy wrapped around my form and in my consciousness. I went to him (the projection). Every word I spoke alleviated the energy. Speaking the truth alleviated the energy. So I spoke the truth and kept speaking the truth. It didn’t even have to be the absolute truth, it just had to be what I thought was the truth at the time, as long as I did not lie in my heart and was authentic. At first the projection was fascinated by my sudden appearance and the easing of the energy. He was like an ancient friend, a dangerous force, pulling on me, forcing me to connect with him. The corresponding projections seemed hopeful. The whole time I spoke out to ease the energy there were positive angelic projections present, helping me. I really did feel that it was my destiny to be forced into uniting with this projection to transform him. He was my Beast. Only the projection started to get out of control after I began to show weakness when he hadn’t fully transformed yet. He stripped me of my titles and my throne (metaphor for integration) and tormented me, until there was no semblance of desire or longing or wanting remaining within the projection. He was totally disgusted by me and wanted me dead in the most horrendous way. There was no pull to him. Nothing. Only despair, as this projection took full control over my life and destroyed my self esteem.

I think there is such a thing as forced/negative positivity. You have to allow the negativity to arise, give it a voice and allow space for it. My animus/the Self shining through would call it ‘cleaning up’. I would do it constantly and I considered the way I dealt with my psychosis a success. I should of been screaming, in a padded room but instead I was calm, polite and free. The only lack of freedom was the treatment order but I needed that. I need years to heal and process. And if I never have another psychosis (this time controlled) again, then it wasn’t my destiny. But I doubt it. Everything my psychoses screamed was inevitability. How can I describe the Self…. Shone through every face Humorous Intelligent All knowing All understanding Had me bending over with laughter every moment Guiding Desiring of me . I can see the Self without psychosis. I don’t need psychosis, it would just be helpful. Like a psychedelic would be helpful. But I have to learn to see without.

I want to clean up my internal world so I can 'project' a clean image of my inner masculine so as to bring out the best in others. That's a part of my ideal reality. Not just expecting reality to be perfect but being the change you want to see, inspiring change in others. Seeing the ideal, vortex version in others.

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Active imagination - characters from psychosis Cruel leader/shadow animus (I’ll try to keep PG rated) He is a ‘student’ of the integrated animus His love his conditional, unstable and violent he shuns me at the first opportunity He is closed off. Like a vampire that has had his fill (yesterday) and leaves me to lie in my own blood The Angel/integrated animus I feel strength returning to my body my core blossoms like a flower in his presence I am assertive, strong, powerful and loveable I am untwisting. My insides are becoming untwisted. He is the embodiment of Being. He is my other half.

@SOUL Hahaha.

Fear can be only natural. It’s prolonged or unnecessary fear that is unnatural. For example, Bashar says we are free to feel any negative emotion for 20 seconds and it won’t be ‘low vibration’. I don’t think it’s literal, although it might be, but it’s indicating that emotions are okay just not emotions that are unnecessarily prolonged or attached to.

I would like to have access to my animus, as Jung had access to his anima, in a controlled manner ultimately. To connect with the energy on command, as Jung was able to. Going in and out of state, controlled psychosis. Bring my animus to fruition in reality by seeing the best in others and vice versa.

During awakenings… it’s very scary only at first. Your so called ‘person’ might have a breakdown (and reality might put things into place to avoid that) and the shadow will arise. But you could just sit and stare into yourself for an eternity while the ‘npc’ did all manner of horrendous things. You are endlessly intelligent, and brilliant and the greatest lover. You will feel simultaneously totally not alone (you will feel the least alone in your entire life with yourself) and totally alone. The latter can be frightening at first especially if you are going for long periods of time in an intense state of awakening and have no idea what is going on.

You will feel simultaneously totally not alone (you will feel the least alone in your entire life with yourself) and totally alone. The latter can be frightening at first especially if you are going for long periods of time in an intense state of awakening and have no idea what is going on.

@Someone here During awakenings… it’s very scary only at first. Your so called ‘person’ might have a breakdown (and reality might put things into place to avoid that) and the shadow will arise. But you could just sit and stare into yourself for an eternity while the npc did all manner of horrendous things. You are endlessly intelligent, and brilliant and the greatest lover.

I have yet to meet someone with Leo’s energy. His level of awakening is profound.

It’s “radical authenticity” and honesty. I’m here for it. I think the feminine version should be a thing too. Like with an emotional/transparent/vulnerability slant.

Active imagination - characters from psychosis Cruel leader/shadow animus Flowing love from the sky, radiant pure light calls to me, asking me to come to him a black spear falls from the sky toxic fumes spill everywhere he tells me to come question: why did you hurt me? ego backlash Why did you experience ego backlash? he turns away, lips pressed together but tells me to come to him this is a sudden weakness that wasn’t there before How can you experience ego backlash? he is a spirit/manifestation that can penetrate reality he is humanity (and my animus) The Angel/integrated animus The old vision I had is present (when my kundalini and heart chakra flew open) Our hands touch. We are one with two perspectives he inserts himself into me. I am taken back into the vision. we move as one and my heart is open. Beautiful energies are everywhere

Active imagination can give you an idea as to what you are attracting into your life. It’s very similar to dreaming, one of the last steps in LOA. If you can give space and be mindful of the darkness then it can transform, otherwise it may lay dormant and sneak up on you.

Active imagination - characters from psychosis Cruel leader/shadow animus My head severed from my body the ‘old’ leader appears before he turned extremely cruel Breathes life into me ( actually impacts my heart centre) Consumes the flesh of my head The Angel/integrated animus Hear: ‘It’s you, my darling’ ’everything will be alright. I’ve got you’ ’I want to stay with you’ ’strengthen what bonds us’ notes: dipped down into a dense shadow again and then dipped back up