The0Self

It doesn't exist in time, it simply "instantly" (timelessly) appears in the time-space shape that it wants to, for no reason, but it does so perfectly because it is unlimited. It isn't even limited to not appearing to be limited. Again, for no reason -- You can kind of feel it in your direct experience in a way -- desire happens for no reason, and even if there is a reason, that reason might have another chain of reasons but at the end you're left with pure axiomatic purposeless no-reason -- and that's "God's will."

Largely agreed, but it’s not a problem. In fact, it may even serve as inspiration in someone’s contemplative endeavor — it’s demonstrable if you just look closely that everything said on this forum, even what’s apparently coming from a perspective, is actually not coming from anywhere. Even an apparent perspective is unexplainably not arising from somewhere you can concretely identify. Always and already, absolutely nothing is ever even the slightest bit other than exactly what it immediately is, which itself hasn’t even the faintest need to be any way at all.

Wondering if your view is the same or if I misinterpreted what you just said on another thread. Really would like your reply. I am responding to the claim,”God creates,” that you made in a recent thread. I just want to point out the reason for how we know that. We identify as both God, and a creator, therefore God creates. Notice that’s what you’re doing. Or convince me that’s “wrong” — I’m utterly open to that, as nothing and everything makes sense anymore. Maybe this (following question) will make perfect sense to you, but something opened up in God-mind: Is the statement from you, “God creates,” coming directly from what seems to know itself as unknowable yet present? ❤️ This is kind of where the rubber meets the road for this apparent body-mind. I’m in a higher state than usual today but since I’m not taking psychedelics my apparent working-memory isn’t suppressed. Because here there is seemingly a transcendence of “I am God” — as an identity isn’t what God really is ultimately. The thing is, it seems... that creation? It literally just happens. But there’s no need for it to seem like it just happens. Or for one to be correct in understanding anything whatsoever. Just sharing.

I’m not sure but I can sort of tell you how the process apparently went for me. Death was recognized as being merely disguised as death of the body, because that’s when you are quite sure all your beliefs will fall away because the brain is assumed to be associated with them and your brain ceases to function when the body dies... However, death is merely the falling away of any belief structure of separation, at any time (so to speak, but there is no real time), regardless of the supposed death of the body. This is everything. The imagination of something else seems to hide that. When the imagination or belief in something else falls away, it ceases to cover over the eternal infinite nature of this seemingly simple appearance. There are no separate things. There isn’t even one thing appearing that isn’t dependent on the entire universe for its existence. Take a wooden bed frame for example — it’s not separate from the imagination of billions of years of evolution of biology, humans loving and fearing one another and eventually ingeniously figuring out ways to make their lives and their loved ones’ lives easier, and eventually they learned to cut down trees and shape them into a bed frame. And it’s clearly endless beyond that; you could go on for weeks just describing where that bed frame came from and you’d be no closer to actually explaining it, as with everything else. Its actually the case that you already are a perfect manifestation of unconditional love. Everything you ever do is not separate from the entire force and will of the universe, so to speak. It’s happening by utterly immeasurable, infinite, unstoppable, un-hinder-able force, even while appearing subtle.

Yeah ego death is seemingly brought about by memory suppression so that often leads to a sort of blackout or whiteout but really what often happens is the timeless no-perspective often opens up — truly God mind — and it’s utterly unimaginable by the ego so it’s seen after the fact as a blank where you intuitively recognize “woah something profound happened.” It’s a total illusion that there’s separation but necessary for experience, so when it apparently dissolves, it can’t then be brought back into the world of experience/time. For some reason cannabis acted as a sort of supercharger (to augment other psychedelics) for that “timeless interdependent God-mind cosmic oneness storm” opening ime. Like the more your working memory is inhibited the deeper you can go but the less you can learn from that deepness. Which is why contemplation + open-stillness is one of the most fruitful skill combos — similar openings can happen with your memory totally in tact, so you can gleam much more of what you want.

Everything you don’t love about your self (every thought about your self that you don’t love), is precisely what isn’t true, for your self. Works at all apparent levels of development, and is apparently true under all circumstances. ** Totally different from Leo’s recent vid by the way — this is just a coincidence and merely shares the word absolute.

Resonates. Thanks.

God does create, but the creator, creation, and creating are all the infinite appearing as that, inseparable from one another.

I hear you. Maybe this will bring it up a bit... Open your mind up as much as possible and take this statement as simply and literally as you can imagine: Whenever you judge or care about anyone or anything, that act is literally synonymous-with and identical-to judging or caring about your self. -> God is imagining that it is caring about (or judging) itself. God-Consciousness — but even that is just what appears; there’s no separation between what appears. There is no one who cares or judges — this just appears as (is) everything.

Nice. But is there really a difference? God makes apparent sense out of infinity — is that creation or discovery? I see no difference, but no one is doing either of those, they just appear.

It’s all fun and games until time disappears and this is clearly just omniscient everything... You become God consciousness you simultaneously are both the imagined birth, life, and death of every single being that could possibly be — as one timeless and spaceless arena of singular infinity. Lol

@Someone here Definitely sounds like a big breakthrough. If I were to guess where a next step is for you (could be totally wrong), it would be another recognition of what this emptiness-manifestation is: unconditional love. Eventually the final “step” — that there truly is no separation of any kind. This can perhaps be accelerated by realizing in each apparent moment that any thought about yourself that you don’t love, is not true, for you... Literally! Believe it or not... As unconditional love is all there is already; it’s just blindly and perfectly appearing as everything and can’t do otherwise because it’s absolute. And that’s the deeply hidden but most real fear: you’re afraid of the responsibility that you feel you’d have if you were unconditionally and perfectly loving. But as it turns out, there’s nothing to worry about, because ultimate responsibility is actually no responsibility. And it’s already the case.

@RMQualtrough Yeah. The most accurate way I could describe it is to simply say there’s literally no separation between anything that appears — for any “one” so to speak, but there’s no real one. That’s why it is said that the absolute cannot distinguish between pleasure and pain and apparently (but not actually) forgetting this absolute unconditional love what “allows,” so to speak, for the multitude of experiences and individuals. And about your experience with love and God... That’s perfectly okay. You must access and identify with God mind before you can dis-identify with it — so too with witnessing before that, and emptiness after that, then all are transcended and included in enlightenment, which is the end of mystical experiences.

Yes, however there isn’t really a why or even a how. There’s nothing outside of the appearance that is timeless everything, and the nature of that is unconditional love. The more you embody unconditional love, the more sovereignty you have as God in this timeless creation of God. Never give up your authority... or do give it up — there’s no choice in the matter. The reality is like this: it’s like the entire universe exists for this moment of sitting on a chair looking at a screen... although it’s not “for” that but you know what I mean — no separation. i.e. “Without a history, how could there be sitting on a chair?” What you really are is so conscious it can experience simplicity, while simultaneously creating the entire universe — ingenious perfection. If you look closely... This very experience of simplicity IS itself the creation of the entire universe! It seems like it would have to be God getting out an infinite toolkit and painstakingly creating a perfect universe... but... it’s literally simply unconditional love appearing ?? ? You could say nothing is external, but I would say: there’s nothing internal (no inner world) when the infinite is realized. For most, I’d be willing to bet the quickest way to enlightenment is to simply actually realize: Everything you don’t love about yourself (every thought about yourself that you don’t love), is precisely what isn’t true, for you. It can actually be that simple... with an open enough mind — which psychedelics can act as a catalyst for.

^^ Solid advice. In my experience, LSD was perhaps the most conducive to mystical experiences powerful enough to have lasting effect on life, consciousness, and realization. 5-MeO-DMT later on maybe, but it’s not really all that incredibly special — it’s all about the dose anyway... And contemplation, and subtlety, and (seriously) love.

Sounds like a really stark and extreme example of what more or less most people experience on the path at least to some small degree. He’s been going headfirst into devilry and self deception and putting up barriers to prevent that process from alleviating. Maybe it’ll get bad enough to cause an awakening, or maybe a psychotic break. It’s too dangerous and precarious for you to worry about or try to change him.

That’s all you extending your tendrils of existence, so to speak, outward throughout eternity and infinity. Survival is another story for how this is. That doesn’t mean it’s false, it’s simply the timeless appearance of everything. Basically there is no separation and that’s the end of it, but cognitive understanding won’t do much you have to actually do the work, optionally take psychedelics, contemplate, inquire, FEEL, effortlessly be yourself, and create.

If one is dead and knows it, then no one is dead. If one is dead and doesn’t know it, then no one is dead. If you mean after death of the body? This assumes time is real. It isn’t. In the dream of time in a very concession oriented way you could say there’s apparent reincarnation, but not separate from this — even that’s not strictly true though. This is already everything — separation of any kind is an illusion. One thing is for sure: you have nothing to worry about. The purpose of everything is literally what you are.

@RMQualtrough Brother... that’s all well and good. Fun theories... But really? Evolution, biology, brains, and even the universe itself are just justifications for why this is as it is. Evolution didn’t lead to this moment. That is by design exactly backwards. Rather, this moment timelessly stretches its arms out in eternal infinity and creates everything — including evolution. Causelessly.

Just saying it would perhaps be unwise to insist on not taking them. You don’t necessarily need them though. You can realize God and your true nature without them, but in my journey it would have been rather difficult. With that said, if I use psychedelics now (just did last week to see), after realization, it doesn’t even produce a mystical experience, which isn’t surprising at all because I knew that would happen going in — nothing is more mystical than God understanding the universe out of everything, which is all there is. ? For real though. Meeting with God? Well, unless that’s just a metaphor for realizing you are God, it’s utterly not what we’re talking about here.

? Although you aren’t necessarily wasting your time by not taking psychedelics, you are pretty much, at least potentially, wasting your time if you plan on never taking them. But eventually they are practically useless, since enlightenment seems to be the end of mystical experiences — and what else would psychedelics be used for?

Imagine you’re God here and you just now made the entire universe to fit this moment. Big Bang and evolution included. You just did it, as all there is, but as a point of view of the only thing there is. How? You just now timelessly stretched yourself — your infinite appendage of spacetime — out to (and as) the apparent beginning and end. But... What about everyone else? Yep, they’re doing it too — they are what you are. That is creation. The mind of God. However, the infinite was already timelessly there, and we are that.

There really is no death. That’s what you imagine happens if you also imagine you were born.

Devise ways and contemplate how to love more fully — or more precisely, be here to be in service to this infinite oneness’s awakening to love. Realize you aren’t here to have any tolerance for a lack mindset. Yet, Realize nothing needs to happen for this to be whole already. No one is really afraid to let go, they’re afraid of realizing this is always absolute-let-go already.

Well it’s not separate from all that exists. But it’s all that exists appearing as a 1st person perceptual bubble — which doesn’t prove that’s actually what it is.