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@Breakingthewall i am most likely a narcissist, lol 😆♥️ wish you well

@Breakingthewall it's funny, cause you just named that which you deem unnameable (you called it unnameable). Idk bro, by this point i think we are derailing the topic of Emil's trip too much, maybe we can start another forum topic on this subject. I find you'r metaphysics to be inaccurate and entangled. I'm not interested in debating you, but the idea of trying to see if i can reply to your ideas sounds fun

@Breakingthewall because... Nothing, by definition, is INFINITE. Therefore, it's not relative nothing. It simply infinity itself. Infinity HAS/IS Everything ! Nothing, Anything, Everything, meaning, no-meaning, etc, etc, etc.

@Breakingthewall Nothing has no meaning precisely because it's infinite. Meaning is a relative ego-mind attempt at dividing Reality, which is like trying yo use a scalpel to divide a Galaxy. Of course you can't apply a relative notion, such as meaning, to Infinity, aka Absolute Nothing.

@Breakingthewall No, because actual Nothing is Infinite, so it's not nothing, as in what the mind calls nothing, which simply means that which is not relevant for survival. That is a shallow use of the word nothing. I am using language here, and i am explicitly telling you that i am referring to metaphysical Nothing, which is not nothing, but the Totality of Infinity itself. It's like this example i like to give - what is an infinite bottle? Is it a really really big bottle? Is it still a bottle? No! It's the Totality of Infinity. And Nothing, Something, Everything and Anything are exactly and precisely the SAME "thing" - Infinity.

@Breakingthewall i'm referring to Absolute Nothing, which IS infinite, which is Unlimited, which is Reality, which is Total, which is Everything, including relative nothing and relative everything, which are Absolute illusions. I'm just talking about infinity. Which is my experience right now, when i'm in a transparent enough state of C.

@Sugarcoat (sorry my phone doesn't let me edit these text boxes out) Actualized.org, lol 😆 No, but it's tricky for me to answer, since i've only stumbled upon spiritual teachings 10 years ago, when i was 19. So only now i'm starting to be ABLE to become serious about all this stuff. I don't think that there is one particular thing that has had the most profound impact. Cause it also depends if you're asking about raising my baseline of consciousness. Leo emphasizes the importance of long meditation retreats, and in retrospect, the 2 vipassana retreats i attended really did boost my consciousness a lot. I attempted a few more solo retreats, but too many survival problems and a severe lack of maturity made me distract myself and quit doing them seriously enough. I was only able to do 1-3 day long meditation retreats since, and only very recently i realized i've been living like a fool, and that centering my life around loving Truth requires infinitely more seriousness, focus and discipline. If you're asking what raised my consciousness acutely the most, that's easy, high doses of psychedelics, lol. But not having the requisite baseline of consciousness and sufficient ego deconstruction, or transparency, as i am starting to call it, or sober discipline, created a LOT of suffering and not understanding why i'm getting the results i was getting. Raising my intelligence in the areas where i was lacking it the most was/is incredibly painful I was gonna mention contemplating infinity a lot, but i don't know that it raised my consciousness, it certainly helped develop the intelligence around understanding the theory better. Yeah. I don't have any better answers at the moment but Leo has plenty of content on this. Also don't underestimate his blog and forum replies. I must say, the more i am super focused on what is continuous in Reality, the more i feel conscious that i am/ i am surrounded by - infinite love. And the more it makes me yearn to just bask in this Truth, with no need to think. Which funnily enough activates thinking that is annoyed that i still have survival struggles, distracting from Truth lol. But it's becoming more transparent, and love shines through that challenge as well.

@Sugarcoat So, my explanation will be a bit all over the place - ultimately if you follow Leo's work, (which will also point you to the importance of studying other relevant teachers), do hardcore meditation retreats, and use psychedelics and self inquiry and deconstruct the ego and have tons of mystical experiences you'll be able to understand for yourself better than anyone could ever explain. But here goes - the way i understand it is that Reality has a sort of infinite Logic to it. And basically if you ask powerful enough questions, you will eventually find infinity/Love/Reality/Truth in anything. And so i suppose we could start by asking "what is anything?", or what is A THING? I sat with this question for years - and had the insight that i have no fucking clue, because i need an infinite chain of causality to explain ANY particular "thing". Because no one "thing" or "form" can really have an existence of it's own, separate from Infinity, things are actually infinity itself. Basically any "object" is actually how infinity looks and sounds and feels like, as if from the outside. Every "thing" is a distinction made in Reality, by the instrument of the survival mind. The survival mind is also paradoxically a distinction made by the survival mind. Then we can sort of ask - well, then... every thing is actually EVERYTHING? What type of "thing" can be paradoxically everything and not everything at once like that? This is where human language starts to really break down. The answer is Paradoxical. NO THING. Literally there is NO "thing" that can do or be everything. A bottle is by definition (of the human mind) a bottle, and not anything else But another way to read that sentence is Nothing CAN Do/Be Everything. So... In Reality, there are no multiple things. There is just one big fat, Ultimate Thing of All Things - Anything/Everything/Nothing. It's just that the human mind's idea of relative nothing does not realize that Real Nothing is Infinite. In the Imaginary Time Before Time, what was there? Of course it's infinitely logical that the answer is Nothing. Nothing is the only "thing" that "needs nothing" to exist. And luckily, Nothing "HAS" Nothing 🤣 AND SO IT "IS/Was" Thing is (<--- LOL, the cosmic joke baked into language) by the same Logic, Nothing needs nothing to be anything, everything, infinite. When you take any "thing" and make it infinite, it stops being that finite thing, and it becomes Infinity itself. So Nothing was never "just nothing". It always was Infinity, therefore it always was both nothing and everything, and every other duality/nonduality in infinity. So it was, is, and always will be the case, that infinity is the only possibility. Because Nothing Always Was, Is And Will Be - INFINITY. See the infinite logic? By that same logic we can contemplate the twisted, crazy nature of infinity, and realize, as Leo wonderfully explained, that Infinity has, by definition, infinite EVERYTHING - including Intelligence, Wisdom, Consciousness, Will, Power, etc. And so, we could say, that it Always "knew" what is THE Most Awesome, Most Perfect, THE Absolute Highest State, THE Best fuckin "THING" that IT can ("CHOOSE to") BE What is that THING? Infinite Self-Love, of course!!! It's perfectly logical!!! But... What comes next is an attempt to explain why explaining through human language any further is simply dumb and weird and pointless: THERE IS NO SUCH "THING" - Any such "permanent thing" leads to evil, aka an eternal prison. (And yet it needs to ALSO paradoxically be an eternal prison, or it wouldn't be infinite) So the Highest Gift it could ever give itself is to ... Not have a Self. To be Absolutely... Selfless NOTHING. (And yet again it also has to have a self to be infinite, hence you are here reading this) But it already was Nothing, so it didn't even have to choose, cause it doesn't even have a self that can choose, and yet that's what the selfless self HAD TO choose, by both choosing and not choosing to have to and not have to choose, because it Already Always was Nothing, etc TO INFINITY!!! POINT IS Nothing IS Reality, Nothing IS Truth, Nothing IS Infinity, Nothing IS All "Finitudes", Nothing IS The Highest Love. Hence Reality is Love Lol But still, all of what i said can be corrupted by ego, from this human state of Consciousness, so like i said, we all gotta dig deep for our...selves, cause otherwise language just turns into mush, sort of how it did here at the end. Did any of it make sense? Final insight: Any dualistic conclusion has the following infinite answer: Yes. No. Yes and no. Neither yes nor No. Both yes and no and neither yes nor no. Neither yes and no and neither yes nor no. Both both yes and no and either yes nor no, and neither yes and no and neither yes nor no. Etc etc etc See infinity? 😊♥️

Yes. But i'm really curious, why are you asking like that?

@emil1234 glad i could be of help! ♥️ Thank you for your work!

Here is my suspicion: At some point in any trip, infinite love constructs the ego "again". That sentence only makes sense from this side of the construction. For the trip to make sense to the human ego, it must have certain memories of it, and the illusion of finitude must become solid enough "once again". The interpretation of Aloneness and Existence cannot not be negative to the ego, because they are actually memories of infinite Love, from the "other side", as if "before" the ego went through reconfiguration and forgetting etc. And to the ego, infinite Love will always be in a way negative, cause it means total annihilation. So in a twisted way, maybe it projects this onto God. But the thing is, the Aloneness of God is Infinite. And any THING that is infinite, stops being a "thing", and it simply turns into infinite Love. This also answers, in my current view, the question of God being infinite hate, or stuff like that. An infinite bottle stops being a bottle, and simply turns/merges back into being infinity itself. Same with infinite hate, an infinite finger, infinite nothing, infinite aloneness, etc. Does that make sense? I think that might be the reason you don't remember, why you went out of the singularity, looking for things outside yourself. Because you increased the Love so much, you "saw" that you wanna forget, that that's how you wanna trick yourself, or that that's the most loving thing you could do. And by definition, you cannot remember what you made yourself forget 😁 Perhaps

That's one interpretation. Another would be that the science that was done was on people who eat both fats and sugar, so of course those numbers would say so. I don't have experience with physiology and science, to have an opinion about your health markers From what i know, and I'm just a guy with access to the internet, there is no telling if this way of eating will clog up your arteries in time, or damage the mitochondria, or create diabetes etc. It seems to depend on so many factors, genetics etc. And doing quality carnivore, or any proper, useful nutrition studies is incredibly hard to do on humans. So we will find out in the next hundreds of years possibly 😂 but for those who it works for, it SEEMS to work amazingly. And there are plenty of carnivore doctors and scientists who talk about blood work. I've listened to a few years of vegan doctors with their arguments, and I've listened now to almost a couple years of carnivore doctors explaining their stuff. Honestly, the carnivores seem way more scientifically accurate and they actually did thoroughly answer many of my vegan questions, although they also seem kinda intellectually lazy, and wanna protect their tribes way, which is understandable. There is one carnivore doctor that stands out to me, Sean O'Mara. He promotes carnivore with the addition of a diversity of fermented plant foods. He argues that that's the best way to consume plants, because they are beneficial when fermented. My interpretation: fat + sugar + improperly or overly processed plants lead to the clogging up of the vessels, joints, organs of the body with fat and muck and gunk and dirt and sandy, glassy scratchy crystals (dirt) and that in time depletes the body of nutrients and damages the tissues. Fast isn't the problem, we work best eating fatty meat, but low carb, for the reason above. And so plants seem to work best when we use our brain to process them properly, not eating them raw, like peasants eating straight dirt 😂 But i dunno what's the truth of this matter.

@Schizophonia apparently the problem with that is that high fat high carb creates a lot of damage. Theoretically the body never had in it's evolution access to hundreds of grams of carbs every day, on top of loads of fat. I mean from the research i've done, if one has a nice fatty meal, even a little bit of sugar creates inflammation and damage. This "Randall cycle" activates and stuff. Which is great for survival, but not great for modern access to food. And depending on your genetics and diet and sleep and human connection etc, if constantly day in day out ur eating lots of carbs and fats, you might clog your arteries, or get cancer, diabetes, or be quite resilient until ur super old, who knows. But some damage is still being done at some level. From my understanding.

Here's my perspective: On a carnivore diet, fat is just as important as protein. A good starting point for the macros is a 1-1 ratio of protein to fat, in grams. So a nice fatty cut of ribeye is usually that. There is nothing wrong with eating a TON of protein on a carnivore diet. The problems appear when high amounts of fats AND high amounts of carbs are all present in the bloodstream at the same time, along with that protein. That's why eating a high carb diet ideally works with as little fat as you can tolerate. Literally just enough to have hormones. I still think it damages you long-term in some ways, and this diet feels like shit for most people. Imagine how it feels to be on a standard clean bodybuilding diet. On a meat-based diet, in the absence of carbs, all of a sudden the cells can breathe freely just the one energy source, the one they've been the most familiar with for millions of years - fat. Although most people go through a tough adaptation period. Some things really do take years to heal on their own, and some things really don't heal on their own and are not fixable with diet. I remember how if felt to not understand that, and think it sounds stupid. But from what i see, for many people it does take 2+, even 4+ years on a strict, high-fat, carnivore/lion diet to heal. But it does happen a lot, i've looked at every good and bad case of the diet i've found in the past year and a half. so, while some health issues might not be fixable through diet alone, I still feel the best on a high fat, carnivore ish diet. I still eat whatever i want, but my intuition more often than not chooses carnivore. My skin is good, my sweat smells nice, my arthritis pain is gone and my poops are fantastic and i struggled with that all my life. Eating enough fat is crucial tho. i am gathering money to work with different carnivore specialists to find out if i have mold disease or chronic inflammatory disease or parasites and shit. i'm excited to work with people such as Judy Cho. I'll link a video here:

I am still young and working through my unique developmental deficiencies and human problems, and i am dedicated to going all the way spiritually. It is such a long process, because the foundation needs to be solid. I have been watching Leo for about 8 years. I found out about spirituality 10 years ago. I'm just getting started. Recently i've spent time with Ayahuasca people. They are so full of self deception it's crazy! If it were not for (mostly) Leo's videos i would've been sucked into cults, gotten into horrible relationships, would've gotten deep into debilitating addiction, or even suicide. As much as i love advanced metaphysics, practical videos are welcome and essential, imo.

Reading trip reports like these always brings me to tears. Thank you for sharing, @Daniel123 !

I have recently interacted with this organization called Inner Mastery, because it was the only way of me to get ahold of Ayahuasca, 5-meo, San Pedro etc. While I identified problems with how some facilitators do their thing, I was wondering if there are any ways of hosting these types of retreats in a healthy way. I am questioning wether or not providing people with psychedelics is a good thing. Many of these people said that they are grateful for the opportunity of taking these psychedelics, and the human connection, but then again that comes from selfishness, does it not? Let's say it's done in countries where it's legal. How can it be done consciously, if at all? (P.s. i have already watched Adeptus' videos. I've talked to people from inside the organization and those interviews do not paint the full picture. I'm interested in a broader perspective moreso than analyzing this particular organization)

I am in Romania now. Should I leave the country asap, or am I just paranoid?

I'm curious, given that you deemed the solipsism video dangerous and took it down, what measures of precaution will you use for this course? I remember you mentioned in the past the possibility of a higher price barrier. Are you considering also something like a questionnaire, to see if someone has a mature enough mind for it, or would that have hidden downsides?

Ok so I re-listened to the 9 stages of ego development part 2 episode for the 10th or 15th time or even more probably, and again, I'm just blown away by how much there is to unpack there. It's the first time I actually understood that I'm at the beginning of the strategist stage. Whereas before, for the last 3 years my ego was just slowly finding it's calm within the storm of confusion of it's Pluralist stage, THINKING it is surely at least Construct-Aware, still shook by the rapid growth and powerful awakenings this beautiful, talented mind has had in the last 5-6 years or so. The initial post I wrote in a frustrated moment, since I started studying Ken Wilber seriously for the first time, and was confused as to why I'm so far behind on the 4 quadrants. So I reached out to Leo to save me, lol which I am very grateful that he didn't respond, because I had this feeling of wasting his time, since he answered these questions so many times, and has explained them so well in his content. So just a quick apology for that, sir. I now understand that part of the deep tiredness I was feeling, was due to my ego constantly reaching for the higher stages, EXACTLY how Leo describes at the begining of The 9 Stages Part 3. Oh, the self-judgement turning into Love. So beautiful. I wasn't lazy, I was going TOO fast! (for MY personal situation) Now I can also see how my ego was doing this for the idea of being Leo's best student, because THEN something something, survival bla bla bla. Where, that doesn't make sense anymore, as Leo is MY MIND. My dream, My Creation, My Love, My Intelligence. And now, Life Purpose truly starts. Only now true balance can even begin to form. Just like in the pandemic, when I realized that I have zero doubt that Reality is Infinity (which was a couple of years AFTER the mystical experience that showed me that, mind you), now I'm seeing the dream clearly for the first time. I'm starting to awaken. For the infinitieth time. This never gets old, lol. @Razard86, I was open to everything you said, and I will rewatch those videos, but this above was what I was asking about. I feel like you didn't meet me where I was at, and just got excited to throw some theory at me, which I already know very well. Anyway, I am grateful for this forum and for Leo, and for my Self, dreaming this fucking incredible dream. How amazing that I Am! I Love You! Gonna go prepare for Ayahuasca now

Usually when I have a question, before asking it here I contemplate and find the answer on my own. But with this one I feel I could use some guidance. So from what I understand now, we have two sides to our work - direct consciousness or Awakening, and then we have deconstructing survival, climbing up the ladder of SD, the 9 stages, becoming integral thinkers, right? So I would like to ask you Leo: 1. Could you give some pointers of the main techniques of deconstruction? 2. What are more powerful questions I can be asking myself about this subject? What I've been doing lately aside from studying you, Ken Wilber and the 9 stages is reminding myself multiple times a day of Solipsism, how every perception is created by infinite Love and Intelligence, but I feel I can take things to a more organized & structured next level.

@Razard86 I saved them in a playlist, I will re-listen to them. Thank you! <3 I will do a solo Ayahuasca trip tonight as well. @Leo Gura I would still love your feedback on this, or if you feel like giving me some guidance for my trip tonight.

@Razard86 thank you <3 I know this, and I connect to this direct experience daily. But I see that God wants to play mind games, that's why it constructs. So within the game of Growth, parallel to Awakening, how do I make sure I am actually growing my spiritual intelligence, besides learning, contemplating, meditating, growing a business and relationships, etc. Or are these even the questions I should be asking?

One thing that comes up is that I just need to trip more. I moved to a different country so I have access to psychedelics. Another is working on the different gaps I have in the quadrants from Integral Theory and the 9 stages. Because even though I say I am studying them, I haven't done it to a high standard yet, if I'm honest, and I am not satisfied with that. But aside from these things, I wanted to get feedback from you @Leo Gura from your current view on this, cause I feel there might be some thing that I'm omitting, that might be obvious to you from the way I'm speaking.